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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    What branch did Joe serve in? That's right, he dodged with so called asthma.
    Do tell, what is Joe going to do to stop a virus in it's tracks? I'm sure the rest of the world would love to know. Kill it it with compassion and kindness?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach1 View Post
    What branch did Joe serve in? That's right, he dodged with so called asthma.
    Do tell, what is Joe going to do to stop a virus in it's tracks? I'm sure the rest of the world would love to know. Kill it it with compassion and kindness?
    He’ll stop the virus with injectable quality bleach and the most beautiful bright light you’ve ever seen.
    Some genius in the field of epidemiology says they work.

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach1 View Post
    Do tell, what is Joe going to do to stop a virus in it's tracks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach1 View Post
    What branch did Joe serve in? That's right, he dodged with so called asthma.
    Do tell, what is Joe going to do to stop a virus in it's tracks? I'm sure the rest of the world would love to know. Kill it it with compassion and kindness?
    They will probably calculate the deaths differently to lower the count. No more assumptions. The liberal media will stop focusing on the death count and focus more on recoveries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrancoLambert View Post
    He’ll stop the virus with injectable quality bleach and the most beautiful bright light you’ve ever seen.
    Some genius in the field of epidemiology says they work.
    You mean like the chemicals chlorine and fluoride that are in our drinking water?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPKE9phMGSg

    You do realize you fell for fake news, again? Trump didn't say inject cleaning chemicals into your body.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/fact-...r-drink-bleach
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    You mean like the chemicals chlorine and fluoride that are in our drinking water?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPKE9phMGSg

    You do realize you fell for fake news, again? Trump didn't say inject cleaning chemicals into your body.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/fact-...r-drink-bleach
    That's what happens when have to be told how and what to think. Bhaa


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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post

    You do realize you fell for fake news, again? Trump didn't say inject cleaning chemicals into your body.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/fact-...r-drink-bleach
    Of course he did.

    And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs,....................blah blah blah................crackers................nuts.. ................and more crackers......
    But then again the next day he said he was being sarcastic.



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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

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    Of course he did.



    But then again the next day he said he was being sarcastic.


    Just like you, with every post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    They will probably calculate the deaths differently to lower the count. No more assumptions. The liberal media will stop focusing on the death count and focus more on recoveries.
    You mean like stop overinflating the deaths? Probably

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    You mean like stop overinflating the deaths? Probably
    Sooner or later, this most deadly disease will have to move over so the country can get on with life. There is no way all the states can keep giving money to those of us that aren't allowed to go to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    Sooner or later, this most deadly disease will have to move over so the country can get on with life. There is no way all the states can keep giving money to those of us that aren't allowed to go to work.
    Obviously, but when liberals are in charge, they never let common sense get in the way of their agenda, never have

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    Sooner or later, this most deadly disease will have to move over so the country can get on with life. There is no way all the states can keep giving money to those of us that aren't allowed to go to work.
    It doesnt have to move over and it wont. Evidence based guidelines need to be established to minimize it and minimize the spread, then those guidelines need to be followed as best as possible to minimize the numbers, so people like yourself can get back to work. The problem is and will still most likely be that a lot of people are just going to take the same stance they have and resist things like social distancing, masks, hand hygiene, etc because they dont like who won the election.

    If my wearing a mask, staying 6ft away, not having or attending Thanksgiving or Xmas parties, disinfecting my hands repeatedly, installing UVC light in my HVAC system, etc. will help a guy like you get back to work, then I will gladly do all that. I just think there are too many people that will not choose to do the same.

    The clinical experience with Covid-19 is that people who get it, have decreasing immunity to it, so even when there is a vaccine it will likely require a booster shot every couple years, or even change it if the strain mutates slightly. Sounds like its not going to be the same as a seasonal flu shot, but isnt going to be lifetime immunity either.

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    I The problem is and will still most likely be that a lot of people are just going to take the same stance they have and resist things like social distancing, masks, hand hygiene, etc because they dont like who won the election.
    And won't that be tragic.

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Looks promising.


    Bloomberg
    Pfizer’s Covid Vaccine Prevents 90% of Infections in Study

    By Robert Langreth
    , Naomi Kresge
    , and Riley Griffin
    November 9, 2020, 6:45 AM EST Updated on November 9, 2020, 7:21 AM EST


    • Preliminary results could pave way for vaccine by year-end
    • Pfizer, BioNTech expect to get two-month safety data next week



    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...in-large-study

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    What a coincidence, after Biden wins an announcement is made. Never Trumper on board for pfizer too. You cant make this shit up. Unbelievable!

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    And what do you know, a vaccine out before end of year. Lol

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    What a coincidence, after Biden wins an announcement is made. Never Trumper on board for pfizer too. You cant make this shit up. Unbelievable!

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    And what do you know, a vaccine out before end of year. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom444 View Post
    Paranoia: It's all a big conspiracy.

    It may have sounded like conspiracy months ago, but when it comes to fruition its called foresight. I guess its just a coincidence, and Im sure all media who laughed when Trump said vaccines by end of year will apologize. Not holding breath.

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Remember libtards aren't going to get vaccinated because orange man bad.


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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    It doesnt have to move over and it wont. Evidence based guidelines need to be established to minimize it and minimize the spread, then those guidelines need to be followed as best as possible to minimize the numbers, so people like yourself can get back to work. The problem is and will still most likely be that a lot of people are just going to take the same stance they have and resist things like social distancing, masks, hand hygiene, etc because they dont like who won the election.

    If my wearing a mask, staying 6ft away, not having or attending Thanksgiving or Xmas parties, disinfecting my hands repeatedly, installing UVC light in my HVAC system, etc. will help a guy like you get back to work, then I will gladly do all that. I just think there are too many people that will not choose to do the same.

    The clinical experience with Covid-19 is that people who get it, have decreasing immunity to it, so even when there is a vaccine it will likely require a booster shot every couple years, or even change it if the strain mutates slightly. Sounds like its not going to be the same as a seasonal flu shot, but isnt going to be lifetime immunity either.
    Psst ... remember what the experts said. If hospitals are not overflowing and people can't get treatment, there is little point in any of that. That was the only reason for slowing the spread." Lockdowns and social distancing otherwise do nothing to affect the end result. Listen to the experts.

    If a single person anywhere in the world had been infected with this disease twice, the media would be shrieking for us all to panic and you would have heard about nothing else for a month. There are hundreds of millions of test cases now and they all show the opposite. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Good to see how happy the possible good news has made you.


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    Remember when Trump said it, it was just another lie. Funny how that happens. 3-2-1 pedo Joe will take the credit.


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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by cubanstogie View Post

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    And what do you know, a vaccine out before end of year. Lol
    I doubt it. I am going to place the over/under on vaccine availability at April. I doubt anybody gets a vaccine this winter, as protocols, approval, manufacture and distribution take more time than 5 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post

    If a single person anywhere in the world had been infected with this disease twice, the media would be shrieking for us all to panic and you would have heard about nothing else for a month. There are hundreds of millions of test cases now and they all show the opposite. Sorry to burst your bubble.
    So is that your opinion, or do you have any evidence to support your comments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    So is that your opinion, or do you have any evidence to support your comments?
    I wasn't aware that we now need corroborating evidence to prove that something hasn't happened. It's the other way around, bucko. Any evidence to support your extraordinary claim?
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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Mask up people.

    Doctor Ben Carson tests positive.

    Ben Carson is the latest Trump official to test positive for coronavirus

    (CNN) — Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson tested positive for coronavirus Monday morning, his deputy chief of staff Coalter Baker confirmed to CNN.


    "Secretary Carson has tested positive for the coronavirus. He is in good spirits and feels fortunate to have access to effective therapeutics which aid and markedly speed his recovery," Baker said in a statement.

    An aide added that Carson, 69, tested positive Monday morning at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center after experiencing symptoms. He is no longer at the hospital.

    Carson's chief of staff Andrew Hughes disclosed the secretary's positive diagnosis in an all-staff letter, writing: "He is resting at his house and is already beginning to feel better."

    Hughes also said staff would be notified if they'd been in contact with Carson and that "all precautions are being taken.

    Carson attended the election night party where White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and nearly every other attendee was not wearing a mask. Meadows and four others in Trump's orbit subsequently tested positive last week.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/polit...rus/index.html

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    I wasn't aware that we now need corroborating evidence to prove that something hasn't happened. It's the other way around, bucko. Any evidence to support your extraordinary claim?
    this study has not yet been peer reviewed, but seems to point to immunity declining as antibodies to COVID19 decline.

    UK study finds evidence of waning antibody immunity to COVID-19 over time


    LONDON (Reuters) - Antibodies against the novel coronavirus declined rapidly in the British population during the summer, a study found on Tuesday, suggesting protection after infection may not be long lasting and raising the prospect of waning immunity in the community.

    Their study found that antibody prevalence fell by a quarter, from 6% of the population around the end of June to just 4.4% in September. That raises the prospect of decreasing population immunity ahead of a second wave of infections in recent weeks that has forced local lockdowns and restrictions.

    “On the balance of evidence I would say, with what we know for other coronaviruses, it would look as if immunity declines away at the same rate as antibodies decline away, and that this is an indication of waning immunity at the population level.”
    Those for whom COVID-19 was confirmed with a gold standard PCR test had a less pronounced decline in antibodies, compared to people who had been asymptomatic and unaware of their original infection.


    “Acquiring this collective immunity just by letting virus run through the population is not really an option,” he told a U.N. briefing in Geneva
    Imperial’s study, based on a survey of 365,000 randomly selected adults, was released as a pre-print paper, and has not yet been peer-reviewed.

    There was no change in the levels of antibodies seen in healthcare workers, possibly due to repeated exposure to the virus.
    The study backs up findings from similar surveys in Germany which found the vast majority of people didn’t have COVID-19 antibodies, even in hotspots for the disease, and that antibodies might fade in those who do.

    https://ca.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-antibody/uk-study-finds-evidence-of-waning-antibody-immunity-to-covid-19-over-time-idUKKBN27C009

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    Challenges in creating herd immunity to SARS-CoV-2 infection by mass vaccination

    Data on immunity to other coronaviruses suggest that immunity to SARS-CoV-2 might be short lived, perhaps 12–18 months in duration.6
    Whether past infection will prevent severe COVID-19 on re-exposure to SARS-CoV-2 is not known at present.
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...318-7/fulltext

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    These Dr.'s suggest that even having a small amount of antibody left may be enough to provide an immune response. It still will not be known if total immunity lasts only 12-18 months as with other coronavirus and may require a booster shot every couple of years.

    Why You Shouldn’t Worry About Studies Showing Waning Coronavirus Antibodies



    Declining antibody levels after the acute infection has resolved “is the sign of a normal healthy immune response,” Dr. Hensley said. “It doesn’t mean that those people no longer have antibodies. It doesn’t mean that they don’t have protection.”

    Looking at the data a different way, about 73 percent of people who had antibodies early on still produced a positive result months later, noted Dr. Antonio Bertoletti, a virologist at Duke NUS Medical School in Singapore. “That’s not such a dramatic decline.”

    Antibodies also represent only one arm of the immune response, albeit the one that can most easily be measured. There are at least three other branches of the immune system that can fend off illness, so antibody levels don’t present the full picture.
    “It’s not the whole immune response,” said Dr. Paul Elliott, an epidemiologist at Imperial College London who heads the project.

    When the body encounters a pathogen, it rapidly produces antibodies that recognize the invader. Once the acute infection resolves, the levels decline — as they must for purely practical reasons. “Our lymphatic system, where immune cells are, only has a finite amount of space,” Dr. Hensley said.
    Depending on the test used, the small amount of antibodies still circulating in the blood may not be enough for a positive signal. The test used in the study has a sensitivity of 84.4 percent, well below that of lab-based tests that hover around 99 percent. That means it may miss anyone who has low antibody levels.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/27/h...s-studies.html


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    Scientists are reporting several cases of Covid-19 reinfection — but the implications are complicated

    Following the news this week of what appears to have been the first confirmed case of a Covid-19 reinfection, other researchers have been coming forward with their own reports. One in Belgium, another in the Netherlands. And now, one in Nevada.

    What caught experts’ attention about the case of the 25-year-old Reno man was not that he appears to have contracted SARS-CoV-2 (the name of the virus that causes Covid-19) a second time. Rather, it’s that his second bout was more serious than his first.
    Immunologists had expected that if the immune response generated after an initial infection could not prevent a second case, then it should at least stave off more severe illness. That’s what occurred with the first known reinfection case, in a 33-year-old Hong Kong man.

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/08/28/...-implications/

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Ah huh.

    David Bossie, who was named to lead Trump effort to challenge election results, tests positive for coronavirus

    PUBLISHED MON, NOV 9 20203:11 PM ESTUPDATED AN HOUR AGO

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/09/covi...ronavirus.html

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    Sure sounds like a long way of saying, "maybe - we barely know anything about this."
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