Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

[Mach1]

Nut Job:

Trump. Your head. Rent Free

[tom444]

If you want to talk about an empty suit, what are the Democrats giving us to vote for? They don't even have a candidate. If you vote for Joe Biden, you are not voting for him, or even his VP candidate, you are voting for his ... handlers. Their slogan might as well be, "Biden 2020 - let's have DNC party shadowbosses do whatever they want! Come on, you racist!" And that ought to frighten the shit out of people. No way. A total non-starter. So I guess they should've picked someone with a pulse.

You keep talking about some massive "failure of leadership at all levels." Constantly over things like "we didn't have a plan for X or a stockpile of Y, we completely blew it!" Never mind that it turned out most of those things made no difference at all. "But we wouldn't have had to still be on lockdown if we'd done all that!" No. We didn't have to be on lockdown, period. It was a bullshit response that should never, ever be brought up again.

The only failure of leadership I have seen is the one by the people who locked us in our houses for three months over what was nothing more than a regular disease, which was clear from the very start but they HAD to go along with the public-shaming misery merchants.

Oh yeah, and then those same people decided it was all overblown as long as people were engaging in political activity that they approved of - this speech is allowed, but not that. And then had the gall to say no, actually it's not over, we're going on lockdown again, fall in line!

Talk about a failure of leadership.

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NO SHIT.

Imagine? Wow.

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Trump. Your head. Rent Free

Mustang thinks life is an internet forum.

Idaho, jesus.

[tom444]

Tony, ya think?

Anthony Fauci warns of 'anti-science bias' being a problem in US

The White House coronavirus task force has been out of public view as President Donald Trump has shown an urgency to move past the pandemic, downplay recent surges in Covid cases in some states, and get Americans back to work.

But the nation's top infectious disease expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci, has been warning Americans about the risk of further spread of the virus.
On Wednesday, Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, joined the US Department of Health and Human Services' podcast "Learning Curve" and gave his expertise on the pandemic and the vaccine development process.
He also defended the stay-at-home orders as having saved "millions of lives," and drew attention to anti-science bias and the disproportionate impact the virus is having on the black community.
On "anti-science bias" in America

Fauci said "anti-science bias" in the country can be problematic.

"One of the problems we face in the United States is that unfortunately, there is a combination of an anti-science bias that people are -- for reasons that sometimes are, you know, inconceivable and not understandable -- they just don't believe science and they don't believe authority," Fauci said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/an...us/ar-BB15GeBt

[steelreserve]

For a guy who believes in science, he sure is bad at it.

[Mojouw]

The ability of some to blame everyone but the actual people at fault is astounding.

The US Covid-19 response was apparently bungled because Becky and Karen got loud on Facebook and scared everyone into being miserable and then CNN made sure it got extended so that they could control our thoughts and make sure that we all think white people are shameful and almost certainly advance the gay agenda. This will finally unravel the fabric of America and prime us all for a take-over by crypto-fascists that will place us all in work camps so that minorities and liberal elites can get paid to do area studies all day.

Or at least that is how I think it goes.

[Mojouw]

I also find the term "activist class" hilarious. Like who gets to decide what is activism and what isn't? Basically it seems that if someone disagrees with it, then it is "activism". Basically, if it requires change to society/culture - then it is bad and "activism". So which of the following totally unpopular "activism" things should we roll back the clock to in order to ensure that America stays the way it was intended:

Only white landowners can vote
Only men can vote - but only white men.
Ok. White women can vote - but no one else.
Get rid of women in the workforce?
Roll back civil rights? Which ones?
Roll back LGBTQ+ rights?
A candidate for and eventual winner of the presidential election had to give a speech assuring Americans that if he was elected he wouldn't be a puppet for the Catholic Vatican.
Go back to the proposed ban on open carry of certain weapons from 1967 in response to late '60's era social unrest?
No vacation time, paid leave, employment safety requirements, etc.?
No food, water, or industrial protections?
No oversight on public transit, cars, or airplanes to ensure minimum safety standards are met?
Should we go back to viewing the Irish and the Italians (and the Poles and Slavs) as degenerate sub-human races that are polluting our shores with filth, drunkeness, criminal babies, and what all else?

Just so we can all be clear on when we want to return to. I mean most say the 1950's because they are 60-70 years old and think it was a better time. But what about the 1900's? 1835? 1772?

[Mojouw]

Also, increasingly looks like something significant has to change in order for fans to have any faith in an NFL season.

MLB now has multiple infectious cases at at least 2 (maybe more?) team facilities in just the past 2 days.
Several NHL and NBA players are testing positive.
Multiple NFL players have been injured (potentially for the season) training on their own in the past few weeks. That isn't going to take to long before teams want these guys training in a supervised environment...then the positive tests likely start to hit.

I guess if the NBA "bubble" plan works - -then the NFL comes up with their own "bubble" somewhere. But at some point, you have to ask "Why?" I like football as much or more as the next fella, but at some point it will be better to just call the whole thing off.

[steelreserve]

Wild West era would be fine. No bullshit.

[tom444]

Also, increasingly looks like something significant has to change in order for fans to have any faith in an NFL season.

MLB now has multiple infectious cases at at least 2 (maybe more?) team facilities in just the past 2 days.
Several NHL and NBA players are testing positive.
Multiple NFL players have been injured (potentially for the season) training on their own in the past few weeks. That isn't going to take to long before teams want these guys training in a supervised environment...then the positive tests likely start to hit.

I guess if the NBA "bubble" plan works - -then the NFL comes up with their own "bubble" somewhere. But at some point, you have to ask "Why?" I like football as much or more as the next fella, but at some point it will be better to just call the whole thing off.

That's my thinking. Sure it'd be great to have a season, but can they? I highly doubt it. Eventualy the virus will have its say and it'll say no. Trump can pretend it'll just go away but the real world won't be able to do that.

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Wild West era would be fine. No bullshit.

Try planet earth. And BTW, as someone who spent time in a place where everyone carried and life was cheap, I can assure you you wouldn't last 5 minutes. No bullshit.

[silver & black]

The ability of some to blame everyone but the actual people at fault is astounding.

The US Covid-19 response was apparently bungled because Becky and Karen got loud on Facebook and scared everyone into being miserable and then CNN made sure it got extended so that they could control our thoughts and make sure that we all think white people are shameful and almost certainly advance the gay agenda. This will finally unravel the fabric of America and prime us all for a take-over by crypto-fascists that will place us all in work camps so that minorities and liberal elites can get paid to do area studies all day.

Or at least that is how I think it goes.

Sounds about right to me.

[steelreserve]

Also, increasingly looks like something significant has to change in order for fans to have any faith in an NFL season.

MLB now has multiple infectious cases at at least 2 (maybe more?) team facilities in just the past 2 days.
Several NHL and NBA players are testing positive.
Multiple NFL players have been injured (potentially for the season) training on their own in the past few weeks. That isn't going to take to long before teams want these guys training in a supervised environment...then the positive tests likely start to hit.

I guess if the NBA "bubble" plan works - -then the NFL comes up with their own "bubble" somewhere. But at some point, you have to ask "Why?" I like football as much or more as the next fella, but at some point it will be better to just call the whole thing off.

Their two options are to try some elaborate scheme to ensure that no one gets the virus, which will inevitably fail, and then cancel the season.

Or, have the players opt in or out before the season and then ignore the virus. Everybody either gets it or they don't, and who cares, because it is no more dangerous to a 20-something or 30-something athlete than any run-of-the-mill sickness that goes around.

That is the only way to get sports back to normal, and for that matter life in general. But Karen will have her say, and she'll say no.

[tom444]

There's a virus and I have to sacrifice a little bit...

[tom444]

My dog complaining about COVID 19:



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Remember the example of an old cow: She’s content to sleep in a barn. You have to eat, sleep and shit— That’s unavoidable—anything Beyond that is none of your business. Do what you have to do And keep yourself to yourself.

[Mojouw]

https://apple.news/A4qFlxireQauSc3vgPKQA1A

Remember how Obummer had to go because apparently other countries laughed at us and that wasn't cool?

They're just straight clowning on us now.

[tom444]

https://apple.news/A4qFlxireQauSc3vgPKQA1A

Remember how Obummer had to go because apparently other countries laughed at us and that wasn't cool?

They're just straight clowning on us now.

It's not a good deal.

From your article:

China’s actions over the past week stand in stark contrast to those of the United States. In the wake of a new cluster of more than 150 new cases that emerged in Beijing, authorities sealed off neighborhoods, launched a mass testing campaign and imposed travel restrictions.

This is not going away any time soon. We have to learn how to deal with it effectively and right now our federal Government doesn't have what it takes.

[Mojouw]

It's not a good deal.

From your article:



This is not going away any time soon. We have to learn how to deal with it effectively and right now our federal Government doesn't have what it takes.

The graph contrasting the US and the EU is also pretty damning. The maddening thing is that successful EU strategies came from US produced research.

[Mach1]

Mustang thinks life is an internet forum.

Idaho, jesus.

Yes it is gods country, no massholes.

[tom444]

The graph contrasting the US and the EU is also pretty damning. The maddening thing is that successful EU strategies came from US produced research.

I have no doubt.

[tom444]

Yes it is gods country, no massholes.

Massachusetts in the fall:

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

The graph contrasting the US and the EU is also pretty damning. The maddening thing is that successful EU strategies came from US produced research.

Sounds about right. Lots of great research on Obesity and its health effects from the USA, yet 36% of the population is obese. https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2228rank.html Can identify problems, just no follow thru with solutions.

[tom444]

You know who has nothing to do with football? Trump.

Trump says Fauci has 'nothing to do with' football after the infectious disease expert said the NFL should adopt 'bubble' protocol to restart games

Eliza Relman22 hours ago

• President Donald Trump on Friday appeared to minimize Dr. Anthony Fauci's warnings that professional football may be unable to restart this fall because of the coronavirus pandemic.
• "Tony Fauci has nothing to do with NFL Football," the president tweeted, referring to the nation's top infectious disease expert who is helping run the White House coronavirus response. "They are planning a very safe and controlled opening."

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...navirus-2020-6

[steelreserve]

The graph contrasting the US and the EU is also pretty damning. The maddening thing is that successful EU strategies came from US produced research.

Sounds about right. Lots of great research on Obesity and its health effects from the USA, yet 36% of the population is obese. https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2228rank.html Can identify problems, just no follow thru with solutions.

"America sucks, capitalism sucks, Europe is so much better. Americans are so stupid and Europeans are so smart. It's ok to be as fat and stupid as you want - stop fat-shaming, bigot! But have you heard about the fat stupid Americans? They're such gross cavemen. Only white males, though, cause Murica! So the solution is to sit here and complain about how much we suck, and how embarrassing it is, and how sorry we should be for inflicting ourselves upon the world. Except for me, though! My self-loathing makes me one of the rare ones who is exempt."

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

"America sucks, capitalism sucks, Europe is so much better. Americans are so stupid and Europeans are so smart. It's ok to be as fat and stupid as you want - stop fat-shaming, bigot! But have you heard about the fat stupid Americans? They're such gross cavemen. Only white males, though, cause Murica! So the solution is to sit here and complain about how much we suck, and how embarrassing it is, and how sorry we should be for inflicting ourselves upon the world. Except for me, though! My self-loathing makes me one of the rare ones who is exempt."

[Mojouw]

"America sucks, capitalism sucks, Europe is so much better. Americans are so stupid and Europeans are so smart. It's ok to be as fat and stupid as you want - stop fat-shaming, bigot! But have you heard about the fat stupid Americans? They're such gross cavemen. Only white males, though, cause Murica! So the solution is to sit here and complain about how much we suck, and how embarrassing it is, and how sorry we should be for inflicting ourselves upon the world. Except for me, though! My self-loathing makes me one of the rare ones who is exempt."

I mean doesn't everyone send apology postcards? I pick a random address and send a short note once a week. Least I can do for our glorious Euro brethren.

[steelreserve]

I mean doesn't everyone send apology postcards? I pick a random address and send a short note once a week. Least I can do for our glorious Euro brethren.

Nah, I think the standard form of apology these days is trying to get retards elected to public office.

[Mojouw]

Nah, I think the standard form of apology these days is trying to get retards elected to public office.

Well that's pretty much standard operating procedure.

[T&B fan]

"America sucks, capitalism sucks, Europe is so much better. Americans are so stupid and Europeans are so smart. It's ok to be as fat and stupid as you want - stop fat-shaming, bigot! But have you heard about the fat stupid Americans? They're such gross cavemen. Only white males, though, cause Murica! So the solution is to sit here and complain about how much we suck, and how embarrassing it is, and how sorry we should be for inflicting ourselves upon the world. Except for me, though! My self-loathing makes me one of the rare ones who is exempt."

thinking someone struck a nerve

[tom444]

"America sucks, capitalism sucks, Europe is so much better. Americans are so stupid and Europeans are so smart. It's ok to be as fat and stupid as you want - stop fat-shaming, bigot! But have you heard about the fat stupid Americans? They're such gross cavemen. Only white males, though, cause Murica! So the solution is to sit here and complain about how much we suck, and how embarrassing it is, and how sorry we should be for inflicting ourselves upon the world. Except for me, though! My self-loathing makes me one of the rare ones who is exempt."

[steelreserve]

That's our thicc president.

[Craic]

It's not a good deal.

From your article:



This is not going away any time soon. We have to learn how to deal with it effectively and right now our federal Government doesn't have what it takes.

You mean, like China taking welding torches and literally welding shut doors of apartment buildings where people have tested positive for COVID-19? Yeah, no thanks.

Source: very good friend who lives in China watching and posting updates on it.