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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

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    Yeah, the ICUs are full because of motorcycle accidents.



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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

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    Showing the problem where covid is spiking is cherry picking? Are you supposed to look where it's trending down instead?

    Let me ask you. When it was spiking in Italy were you suppose to look at the Arctic Circle to get an accurate read? Jesus christ.



    How the hell can you hype a pandemic? It's speaking for itself loud and clear.

    We got some fucking dumb people in the US. I mean really fucking dumb.
    Picking one hospital that has the worst or close to the worst numbers to make a point about the overall pandemic in the US is almost the very definition to the term cherry picking. Interestingly, you second post wasn't even about ICU beds, which is what I was speaking about. Moreover, the average increase in ICU bed use is 8 percent according to the CDC.

    Now, let's address the logical fallacy of your next sentence. If you are looking at the Italian numbers to get a feel for the spread of COVID-19 in Italy, then it's good methodology. But that is not equivalent to your argument. You're argument is equal to someone saying, "All of Europe is suffering COVID-19, and here's the numbers from the worst hit hospital in Italy to prove it."

    So, no. If you want an "accurate read" as you state for a given set of parameters, then you must take measurements from all entities or places within those parameters. Hence, if you are arguing about the overall COVID-19 pandemic in the US, you must take numbers from all fifty states.

    Using just one state, and moreover, one hospital and then screaming it proves your point is... hmm... what is that word? Oh yeah! I remember. Cherry Picking. Trust me, I bust my students for this same type of thing often in their papers. It's bad logic.


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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    It's hard to imagine why Patriot trolls are even allowed on SU.

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

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    It's hard to imagine why Patriot trolls are even allowed on SU.
    Probably because it's someone's alt account for fucking around with; if not, it's a teenager.
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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

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    Picking one hospital that has the worst or close to the worst numbers to make a point about the overall pandemic in the US is almost the very definition to the term cherry picking. Interestingly, you second post wasn't even about ICU beds, which is what I was speaking about. Moreover, the average increase in ICU bed use is 8 percent according to the CDC.

    Now, let's address the logical fallacy of your next sentence. If you are looking at the Italian numbers to get a feel for the spread of COVID-19 in Italy, then it's good methodology. But that is not equivalent to your argument. You're argument is equal to someone saying, "All of Europe is suffering COVID-19, and here's the numbers from the worst hit hospital in Italy to prove it."

    So, no. If you want an "accurate read" as you state for a given set of parameters, then you must take measurements from all entities or places within those parameters. Hence, if you are arguing about the overall COVID-19 pandemic in the US, you must take numbers from all fifty states.

    Using just one state, and moreover, one hospital and then screaming it proves your point is... hmm... what is that word? Oh yeah! I remember. Cherry Picking. Trust me, I bust my students for this same type of thing often in their papers. It's bad logic.
    What planet are you on? Where covid is spiking the hospital's are in jeopardy. Why the hell would you look where covid isn't? Try and make some sense. Numbnuts said our hospitals aren't at risk. Yes they are where we have a spike in covid patients. This isn't rocket surgery. Well, it is for you but it isn't for anyone who can think.

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

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    What planet are you on? Where covid is spiking the hospital's are in jeopardy. Why the hell would you look where covid isn't? Try and make some sense. Numbnuts said our hospitals aren't at risk. Yes they are where we have a spike in covid patients. This isn't rocket surgery. Well, it is for you but it isn't for anyone who can think.
    Yeah nice try soy boy.Soy latte sucking punk ass troll ! Did you grow out your training bra yet? Suck down some more soy latte's you'll get there.
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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by cold-hard-steel View Post
    Yeah nice try soy boy.Soy latte sucking punk ass troll ! Did you grow out your training bra yet? Suck down some more soy latte's you'll get there.
    Lol. Good response.


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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Him and his butt buddy blowjo.
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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Number 7 coming up:


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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    7 soy latte's already today? So you're reaching for D-cup?
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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    I think the debate about hospitals is useful. I strongly believe that the original round of quarantine showed that we can't pull off a entire country all the same rules at the same time kinda thing.

    Perhaps with sufficient fast and effective treating, we could do a zone defense? Like Florida, Arizona, and Texas are on some sort of quarantine, but rural Vermont isn't. Etc.

    Because just as much as it is totally true that it's out of hand in some spots; it is true that in others it is manageable.

    The trouble is that people kinda suck. In my area, my county should be mostly shut down but 3/4 around it could be open. People aren't (and haven't been) going to adhere to "less priveleges/freedom" than their neighbors. Be that a county away or 6 states away.


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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by tom444 View Post
    This isn't rocket surgery. Well, it is for you but it isn't for anyone who can think.
    Craic is one of the more logical (and nicest) people on here. There was no need for this.

    Disagree with him. Fine.
    Provide a counterpoint. Great.
    Act like an ass, and even the people who agree with you will find this offensive.

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Craic is one of the more logical (and nicest) people on here. There was no need for this.

    Disagree with him. Fine.
    Provide a counterpoint. Great.
    Act like an ass, and even the people who agree with you will find this offensive.
    Isn’t it about time for tom to be banned again for a while?

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Craic is one of the more logical (and nicest) people on here. There was no need for this.

    Disagree with him. Fine.
    Provide a counterpoint. Great.
    Act like an ass, and even the people who agree with you will find this offensive.
    That's your opinion, I disagree. I repeat, this isn't rocket surgery except for him and some others in here. We got big problems in America right now and it's no time to listen to the nonsense of those who can't keep up. And it's real funny that you have people on here calling me a fag and and a tranny and you have been silent. So now you expect me to respect your opinion? Pound sand.

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by tom444 View Post
    That's your opinion, I disagree. I repeat, this isn't rocket surgery except for him and some others in here. We got big problems in America right now and it's no time to listen to the nonsense of those who can't keep up. And it's real funny that you have people on here calling me a fag and and a tranny and you have been silent. So now you expect me to respect your opinion? Pound sand.


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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    I think everyone is on edge and lashing out more than typical.

    Honestly, if the board bans Tom for a bit, myself and the poster who called him names also need to asked to take a break. I've not exactly been nice to people lately.

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by tom444 View Post
    That's your opinion, I disagree. I repeat, this isn't rocket surgery except for him and some others in here. We got big problems in America right now and it's no time to listen to the nonsense of those who can't keep up. And it's real funny that you have people on here calling me a fag and and a tranny and you have been silent. So now you expect me to respect your opinion? Pound sand.
    You and others having been lobbying insults back and forth. You might want to take some responsibility for your role in that.

    Craic has never (nor would ever) resort to that type of sophomoric banter. You’re not going to make any headway with anyone by attacking him.

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    You and others having been lobbying insults back and forth. You might want to take some responsibility for your role in that.

    Craic has never (nor would ever) resort to that type of sophomoric banter. You’re not going to make any headway with anyone by attacking him.

    SUMMATION:
    I stand by what I stated.
    SUMMATION: You're cherry picking your outrage. I'm not interested. I could care less. I care about one thing. We get through this with as few casualties as possible. Everything I've said concerning this has been with that in mind. And I have a history of putting my money where my mouth is in that regard.


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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by tom444 View Post
    That's your opinion, I disagree. I repeat, this isn't rocket surgery except for him and some others in here. We got big problems in America right now and it's no time to listen to the nonsense of those who can't keep up. And it's real funny that you have people on here calling me a fag and and a tranny and you have been silent. So now you expect me to respect your opinion? Pound sand.
    Listen up "soy boy" You brought your soy latte' suckin punk ass on this site and continued to troll on people. I've watched you in the background for a long time and never said one word to you.Then ya had to come trollin for me punk ass.Who called you a fag anyway? Not that i doubt that you are. I saw you troll on another here that never one time said a bad thing to anyone. Silver adds a lot of opinions and some of us respect him and the way he conducts his time here. He is not a troll but you are. Jump on and latch on to my posts and some others on here that i respect and then you get what ya get. You are clearly a POS troll. "SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING" right? It was your soy boy punk ass!!!! Continue to latch on to my posts ,then ya get what ya get. If you don't like it brah then bounce !!!!!! Ain't nobody gonna miss ya!!!
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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

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    Listen up "soy boy" You brought your soy latte' suckin punk ass on this site and continued to troll on people. I've watched you in the background for a long time and never said one word to you.Then ya had to come trollin for me punk ass.Who called you a fag anyway? Not that i doubt that you are. I saw you troll on another here that never one time said a bad thing to anyone. Silver adds a lot of opinions and some of us respect him and the way he conducts his time here. He is not a troll but you are. Jump on and latch on to my posts and some others on here that i respect and then you get what ya get. You are clearly a POS troll. "SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING" right? It was your soy boy punk ass!!!! Continue to latch on to my posts ,then ya get what ya get. If you don't like it brah then bounce !!!!!! Ain't nobody gonna miss ya!!!


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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I think everyone is on edge and lashing out more than typical.

    Honestly, if the board bans Tom for a bit, myself and the poster who called him names also need to asked to take a break. I've not exactly been nice to people lately.
    You are a whole different story,but just like your butt buddy you also did the same as he. Thought you all would do some tag teamin. Callin names is the only way to get into radical leftists heads and they hate it. They hear nothing anyone says but they can hear the names. Oh do they hate the name callin. I dealt with a leftist narcissist for 27 years and i know how to get to em. No matter what you say they never want to hear it. But they hear names and respond. And i'm C.H.S. by the way . Not the poster.

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    I don't remember things that aren't important to me.

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by cold-hard-steel View Post
    Listen up "soy boy" You brought your soy latte' suckin punk ass on this site and continued to troll on people. I've watched you in the background for a long time and never said one word to you.Then ya had to come trollin for me punk ass.Who called you a fag anyway? Not that i doubt that you are. I saw you troll on another here that never one time said a bad thing to anyone. Silver adds a lot of opinions and some of us respect him and the way he conducts his time here. He is not a troll but you are. Jump on and latch on to my posts and some others on here that i respect and then you get what ya get. You are clearly a POS troll. "SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING" right? It was your soy boy punk ass!!!! Continue to latch on to my posts ,then ya get what ya get. If you don't like it brah then bounce !!!!!! Ain't nobody gonna miss ya!!!
    We're talking about losing a football seasons, not to mention our economy and several 100,000 people, to a virus and this clown is blabbing about soy latte' and butt buddies. Wow.

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by tom444 View Post
    That's your opinion, I disagree. I repeat, this isn't rocket surgery except for him and some others in here. We got big problems in America right now and it's no time to listen to the nonsense of those who can't keep up. And it's real funny that you have people on here calling me a fag and and a tranny and you have been silent. So now you expect me to respect your opinion? Pound sand.
    That might be because teegre, myself, and our families have spent a little bit of time together. Sure, it was one evening, but it provides a lot more context than an online forum. (And it was very good Mexican food).

    As for the debate, you continue to miss the point. When speaking of "pandemic," it is, by definition, larger than one hospital or one city. Moreover, on average, hospital ICUs have had up to 80+ percent occupancy long before COVID-19. We won't reach "crisis" status like you're trying to suggest until multiple cities are bumping the 95 percent barrier or higher. Until that happens, we simply have a few hotspots here and there that are worthy of attention, but not panic or crisis mode.


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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    That might be because teegre, myself, and our families have spent a little bit of time together. Sure, it was one evening, but it provides a lot more context than an online forum. (And it was very good Mexican food).

    As for the debate, you continue to miss the point. When speaking of "pandemic," it is, by definition, larger than one hospital or one city. Moreover, on average, hospital ICUs have had up to 80+ percent occupancy long before COVID-19. We won't reach "crisis" status like you're trying to suggest until multiple cities are bumping the 95 percent barrier or higher. Until that happens, we simply have a few hotspots here and there that are worthy of attention, but not panic or crisis mode.
    I'm not the one missing the point. We have hospitals that are in crisis. We have counties in Texas where they have refrigerated trucks at the ready to keep corpses in. We have a very serious problem in America. We lead the world in COVID 19 cases and deaths. And that sir isn't cherry picking.

    BTW, teegre is one of less than a handful of people I would allow my family to accompany me to meet on this forum, so you clearly have a good sense of people.
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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Might wanna dial it back a bit. Not going to make much headway going straight at one of the most level headed and kind individuals to post round these parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Might wanna dial it back a bit. Not going to make much headway going straight at one of the most level headed and kind individuals to post round these parts.
    You find something rude here?

    I'm not the one missing the point. We have hospitals that are in crisis. We have counties in Texas where they have refrigerated trucks at the ready to keep corpses in. We have a very serious problem in America. We lead the world in COVID 19 cases and deaths. And that sir isn't cherry picking.

    BTW, teegre is one of less than a handful of people I would allow my family to accompany me to meet on this forum, so you clearly have a good sense of people.
    Gee, I don't.

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by tom444 View Post
    You find something rude here?



    Gee, I don't.
    Not really. Just too easy to read tone into somewhere it isn't.

    Just pointing out that some people are worth taking a beat and then two more in a response.

    That's all.

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    Re: Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Not really. Just too easy to read tone into somewhere it isn't.

    Just pointing out that some people are worth taking a beat and then two more in a response.

    That's all.
    That post was straight up. No hidden agenda. In fact I complemented him and teegre sincerely.

    Don't think I get my passion for America confused with who people appear to be on here. I'm pretty good at judging people.

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