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    How does TJ get on 1st and 2nd team? lol. Awesome either way, no surprise there's good representation on defense.

    Derrick Henry got snubbed, he led the league in rushing and was 2nd team all-pro? I like McCaffery and all but no.
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    Re: 2019 All Pro Team

    How about that Diontae Johnson!!


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    Ryan Switzer is so versatile though. He can create 2nd and long from either receiving or rushing the ball!

    And shit, who needs touchdowns when you can just fair catch it all the time?
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    Re: 2019 All Pro Team

    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post


    I can't believe TJ didn't make two first-teams! Robbery!!!

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    Re: 2019 All Pro Team

    Boswell should have been in the running for 2nd Team All Pro but the offense didn't help his XP count.



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    Hokins first team WR? Seriously?



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    Minkah and TJ were no-brainers. I liked seeing Cam Heyward make the all-pro. He was fantastic this year as well and no-doubt a locker room leader. Diontae Johnson though? Ok? Objectively speaking, did he do much of anything other than that TD against the Cardinals/

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    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    Minkah and TJ were no-brainers. I liked seeing Cam Heyward make the all-pro. He was fantastic this year as well and no-doubt a locker room leader. Diontae Johnson though? Ok? Objectively speaking, did he do much of anything other than that TD against the Cardinals/
    Might just be a sign of how bad returns are lately.

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    Re: 2019 All Pro Team

    Imagine if Tuitt stayed healthy...


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    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    Minkah and TJ were no-brainers. I liked seeing Cam Heyward make the all-pro. He was fantastic this year as well and no-doubt a locker room leader. Diontae Johnson though? Ok? Objectively speaking, did he do much of anything other than that TD against the Cardinals/
    Objectively, he is second in the league in yards per return with 12.4 on 20 returns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Imagine if Tuitt stayed healthy...
    There was a list out there (PFF) which listed the players who had the most successful “win rate” versus double-teams.

    Obviously, Aaron Donald was #1 (18.2% win rate). Javon Hargrave was #2 (17.2%) and Cameron Heyward was #5 (13.6%).

    It only listed players who had 100 snaps minimum. But, based on the number of snaps that Stephon Tuitt saw, he would have been #4 (16.0%).

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    There was a list out there (PFF?) which listed the players who had the most successful “win rate” versus double-teams.

    Obviously, Aaron Donald was #1 (19% win rate). Javon Hargrave was #2 (like 17%) and Cameron Heyward was #5 (like 16.5%).

    It only listed players who had 100 snaps minimum. But, based on the number of snaps that Stephon Tuitt saw, he would have been #2 (like 17.5%).
    That’s the list that JJ Watt was at the top?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    That’s the list that JJ Watt was at the top?
    No. It was a similar list, but different. That list was... (searching for it).

    Okay, I’m confused. It looks exactly like the list that you posted (in the TJ Watt thread), but it list different players. WTF!?!

    Oh, I see the difference. The list I’m looking at is for interior defensive linemen.

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    Re: 2019 All Pro Team

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkman View Post
    Objectively, he is second in the league in yards per return with 12.4 on 20 returns.
    My memory is not always the best didn't returners used to average high teens?

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    Re: 2019 All Pro Team

    Quote Originally Posted by NCSteeler View Post
    My memory is not always the best didn't returners used to average high teens?
    Deonte Harris (the first team All Pro returner) averaged just 9.8 per punt return... and had 3 fumbled punt returns.


    SUMMATION:
    I’m honestly not sure how they determined the returners for the All Pro team. Maybe they drew names out of a hat...???

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    Re: 2019 All Pro Team

    Quote Originally Posted by tube517
    Congrats to::Cam Heyward - 1st Team All Pro Interior Lineman
    TJ Watt - 1st Team All Pro Edge Rusher
    TJ Watt - 2nd Team All Pro Linebacker (HUH?)
    Minkah Fitzpatrick - 1st Team All pro Safety
    Diontae Johnson - 2nd Team All Pro Punt Returner

    And George Kettle.
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    the easiest person to fool."

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    Re: 2019 All Pro Team

    I guess Watt was so good, he made it twice.
    An empty victory is a victory nonetheless.

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    Re: 2019 All Pro Team

    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    THIS SUCKS!

    Watt made the list for two different positions: edge rusher and linebacker. You all know what that means, right?

    He'll want to get paid for both positions . . . !

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    Re: 2019 All Pro Team

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Deonte Harris (the first team All Pro returner) averaged just 9.8 per punt return... and had 3 fumbled punt returns.


    SUMMATION:
    I’m honestly not sure how they determined the returners for the All Pro team. Maybe they drew names out of a hat...???
    What the voters remembered from watching highlights on ESPN

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCSteeler View Post
    My memory is not always the best didn't returners used to average high teens?

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    Probably for kickoff returns. Punt return average, anything over 10 was considered elite. Any punt returner that consistently averaged over 10 yards, the punter would end up kicking out of bounds on purpose to prevent a return (forget but the dude from KC and Chicago were a couple)
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