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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Now you're rounding into form! I knew you could do it! Was afraid we would have to use a high draft pick on another message board grump. Looks like you pulled it together. Now maybe we can finally get Shoes that TE...

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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    If you are just going to complain, at least take the time to make your complaint interesting. Like some colorful language, or a bizarre series of metaphors, or like, even one specific other than "bad coaching". This was the perfect week to breakout the old chestnut of "lazy players". You could have really gone after Pouncey and Feiler with that one, maybe eve Foster.
    FWIW I thought Feiler made one of the hustle plays of the year in not giving up and preventing a pick six by knocking White out of bounds inside the 15 after Duck threw the killer INT.

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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    Lack of coaching is the big problem.

    So you think this current group of players that have been on the field for the majority of this season should dominate the NFL and would win the Super Bowl if not for bad coaching?

    I think that the injuries have diminished the talent so much that they are struggling to get things done on the offensive side. I think the coaching has been stellar this year to have them where they currently are record wise.

    There have been legitimate gripes about coaching in other years, but I just don't see how coaching can be knocked for much this year.

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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Now you're rounding into form! I knew you could do it! Was afraid we would have to use a high draft pick on another message board grump. Looks like you pulled it together. Now maybe we can finally get Shoes that TE...

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    Well, this seems like a stinky TE class in 2020, so might as well wait until Heath Miller sons grow up.

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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Well, this seems like a stinky TE class in 2020, so might as well wait until Heath Miller sons grow up.
    Curious to see what Adam Trautman looks like at the Senior Bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Curious to see what Adam Trautman looks like at the Senior Bowl.
    Wasn't he a QB at one time?

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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Wasn't he a QB at one time?
    Right you are.

    Brycen Hopkins from Purdue, Jared Pinkney Vanderbilt, Josiah Deguara from Cincy and Stephen Sullivan from LSU are all attending. Should be a good week to see some TE's and maybe find a gem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Right you are.

    Brycen Hopkins from Purdue, Jared Pinkney Vanderbilt, Josiah Deguara from Cincy and Stephen Sullivan from LSU are all attending. Should be a good week to see some TE's and maybe find a gem.
    I've watched a little film on Deguara. He seems to have a blocking body but catches the ball better than he blocks.



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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    So you think this current group of players that have been on the field for the majority of this season should dominate the NFL and would win the Super Bowl if not for bad coaching?

    I think that the injuries have diminished the talent so much that they are struggling to get things done on the offensive side. I think the coaching has been stellar this year to have them where they currently are record wise.

    There have been legitimate gripes about coaching in other years, but I just don't see how coaching can be knocked for much this year.
    I’m convinced the one significant injury was to Ben. The lack of good backup play has brought us to this point. If we had a qb that could hit the open receivers consistently we’d be 10-4 easily right now. Wr’s and rb’s haven been stepping up, it’s just the qb play that has made this season a struggle. This team is really good otherwise

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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    I’m convinced the one significant injury was to Ben. The lack of good backup play has brought us to this point. If we had a qb that could hit the open receivers consistently we’d be 10-4 easily right now. Wr’s and rb’s haven been stepping up, it’s just the qb play that has made this season a struggle. This team is really good otherwise


    I agree. I'm just trying to understand how Steeldude sees it.

    If Ben were healthy with this current group, I believe they would have more wins and be in a better position to make a deep playoff run.

    It's hard for me to grasp how a coach that is on his fourth-string QB with a ton of other injuries on the offensive side of the ball and in contention to make the playoffs is the problem this year. Most teams would be closer to contending for the #1 pick in the upcoming draft if they were dealt that hand IMO.

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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Foster has never been a good run-blocker. He’s been a very good pass-blocker (which is great when Ben is your QB).

    My current mock draft:
    R2: Jacob Eason, QB, Washington
    R3 (comp): O-line
    R4: O-line
    R4: O-line

    Re-sign Dupree
    Hope to re-sign Hargrave*

    *(Considering how the Steelers have been using a 2-man D-line, Tuitt returning might not make this as much of a priority as it seemed a few months ago.)
    Are they using 2 man D-Line because Tuitt is out where they normally would use more 3 man?


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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    I agree. I'm just trying to understand how Steeldude sees it.

    If Ben were healthy with this current group, I believe they would have more wins and be in a better position to make a deep playoff run.

    It's hard for me to grasp how a coach that is on his fourth-string QB with a ton of other injuries on the offensive side of the ball and in contention to make the playoffs is the problem this year. Most teams would be closer to contending for the #1 pick in the upcoming draft if they were dealt that hand IMO.
    Special Teams, for the most part is still a disaster. Coaching in that aspect of the game still suffers. Play calling IMO has been questionable on offense. Butler seems to finally have the personnel to run the defense he wants or he has made adjustments from last year to this year. He’s done a great job. Tomlin is coach of the year IMO. He’s absolutely faced the most adversity of any head coach and has this team in the playoffs. If they make the playoffs, it’s shouldn’t be close as to who the coach of the year is.


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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Are they using 2 man D-Line because Tuitt is out where they normally would use more 3 man?
    Good question. IMO, they had been using a 3-man front, but necessity is the mother of invention: Tuitt goes down and they’re forced to use a 2-man front... and it has worked better.

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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Well, this seems like a stinky TE class in 2020, so might as well wait until Heath Miller sons grow up.
    Maybe the Rooneys can invest some money on the dark web and get a Heath Miller clone spun up?

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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Andrew Brister, the new franchise QB in 4 years?

    https://www.thenewsstar.com/story/sp...qb/4282162002/

    In all seriousness he's already 6'4 and runs the 40 in 4.78, might be more talented than his dad

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    This team really doesn't belong in the playoffs. Their offense is really pathetic.

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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    I agree. I'm just trying to understand how Steeldude sees it.

    If Ben were healthy with this current group, I believe they would have more wins and be in a better position to make a deep playoff run.

    It's hard for me to grasp how a coach that is on his fourth-string QB with a ton of other injuries on the offensive side of the ball and in contention to make the playoffs is the problem this year. Most teams would be closer to contending for the #1 pick in the upcoming draft if they were dealt that hand IMO.
    I think it's easy to agree that fitchners in game okay calls are atrocious. But coaching let's see were starting one second year and a undrafted rookie and yet we don't even have a QB coach on staff. How's that supposed to work? How can we develop the next QB without a coach to help them along?

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    The offensive struggles were unfolding last season. The Steelers organization knew Bell was gone but believed Conner could replace him. They knew AB was leaving but thought JuJu would fill his shoes. They had no question Rudolph was good enough to not only be a good backup but be the answer for the future. They allowed Jesse James to walk and didn't blink. Ben in or out this season tells you the Steelers were totally sold on the "talent" positions they have on offense. They were wrong.

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    Re: This team just isn’t good enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Neversatisfied View Post
    The offensive struggles were unfolding last season. The Steelers organization knew Bell was gone but believed Conner could replace him. They knew AB was leaving but thought JuJu would fill his shoes. They had no question Rudolph was good enough to not only be a good backup but be the answer for the future. They allowed Jesse James to walk and didn't blink. Ben in or out this season tells you the Steelers were totally sold on the "talent" positions they have on offense. They were wrong.
    Jesse James Walker for the money. Triple the cash, half the stats...lol


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