After beating the Rams, Mason Rudolph said of the Steelers' defense, "They're playing like the '85 Bears.
https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh...eve-138751623/
After beating the Rams, Mason Rudolph said of the Steelers' defense, "They're playing like the '85 Bears.
https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh...eve-138751623/
Few QBs could succeed in this offense as is. Hell, even Ben was struggling before his injury
The guy that scares me the most is Holton. Seriously I haven't seen him catch a single pass dating back to preseason. Throwing to him has to be a guaranteed incomplete pass or INT
QB is one of the lesser needs on this team at this stage.
LT, RT, RB, WR, WR, LG probably all need to be addressed in one form or fashion before QB...lol. QB will need to be addressed, but there’s a lot of other positions that need attention as well.
Cleveland was adverse circumstances and he came short. Many HOF QBs have had equally bad games, including our Ben. I haven’t given up hope that he can turn it around. I’m expecting a good game from him Sunday, even without some of his best weapons.
That isn't the conclusion I got or sense from Rudolph or Wexell's article. To me, I see a kid that has the talent with little time or help to develop before being cast into a shit storm. In spite of that, he's done fairly well with his and the teams' shortcomings. The problem with most fans is they are expecting and want a Mahomes out of Mason and they aren't seeing it after 9 games. These are the same fans that thought AV was camp fodder, Watt didn't have it, Dirty Red would never make the roster. Now the shouts from the torch and pitchfork crew are called for a duck and 1st round practice squad QB that can't make an NFL roster. Mason has the talent, he needs work but he has something many failed R1 picks don't have and that is a spine.
why was the line protecting ben better than for mason?..same line a..change at coach sure but before ben got hurt the line protected him... maybe since the brawl they will gell better
100% for Rudolph
KNOCKIN ON 7'S DOOR!
Does it even matter? Not going to draft one, not going to trade for one
. Doubt we have the money or would sign one better with Ben coming back.
I wouldn't over extend with him though. I'd offer back up money on a short deal. And keep searching for the next Ben.
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Because that same line wasn't dealing with 8, 9, 10 guys in the box with overload blitzes on every. single. snap. Defenses are either crashing down on outlet receivers or just calling run blitzes on virtually every down since they don't respect getting beat over the top.
Until Rudolph can start stretching the field and keeping the safeties 15-20 yards back, he can expect guys in his face on every dropback. Do that to Ben at he'll torch you for a 45-yard gainer immediately. Defensive coordinators have no such fear with Rudolph back there.
Wexell? This is the same guy who thought Kordell was a good QB. Haha
Hater = Realist
He’s missed seeing a lot of open receivers, he’s also stopped moving around the pocket since the concussion and he doesn’t have zip on medium to long range passes. Worst of all his accuracy really sucked in Cleveland to the tune of 4 int’s
guess this next game against cinci will show whether he can bounce back or not, after that game if he doesn’t improve much, I wouldn’t expect much more
So far, to me, I haven’t seen much difference between him and Landry Jones, except perhaps the grit factor. But that grit factor hasn’t translated into production on the field - yet
maybe Jones is even a bit better so far
I’m still waiting to pass judgment on him.
Certainly hasn’t produced enough/any moments that make you go “wow.”
Certainly his supporting cast hasn’t contributed enough to help him.
OL underperforming, musical chairs at RB, WR’s disappointing, clueless OC...too much mediocrity surrounds him.
And, he’s been mediocre...at best.
Need the full season IMO to get a better feel about his future.
As I said before rookie QB's are playing better and so are some 2nd year QB's.
Rudolph doesn't see the feed well, and has accuracy issues. He was something like 40% accurate on throws that went 5 yards past the line of scrimmage. His pocket awareness is poor, and he's fumble prone. With just an okay arm and limited running ability, what does he do well enough to build a passing game around? Sorry gents, his NFL upside is low. I don't trust these big 12 QB's, they don't play good pass defense there.
He won his NFL games thanks to being on the plus side of turnovers and a few defensive scores. Once he doesn't get either, and has to pass, the interceptions will come, just as they did in the Browns game. Our passing game is reduced to dump off passes to the backs and short passes to the TE. The WR's are open sometimes, he just doesn't throw it to avoid a mistake.
He's is not the QB of the future. Id like to see Duck start another game, just so we see what we have in him.
Duck ain’t the future either. And there’s plenty of new guys who started great but are now struggling (e.g. Jones, Allen).
I see a lot of similarities to Tim Tebow with Rudolph. They're both great leaders on and off the field. Tebow has a spine as well. The biggest one that jumps out to me though is that neither one of them are NFL qbs.
Rudolph has done absolutely nothing besides ride his defense and make every check down throw possible. He's not the future. He's a statue. Every time he drops back I get the oh shit feeling. He holds the ball too long. He's got a weak arm. He's indecisive. He can't throw to WRs. What is to like about this guy?
As for expecting the next coming of Mahomes...Some fans probably expect that. I'm just waiting for a moment that Rudolph shows he belongs in the NFL.
I don’t mind discussing Rudolph for his own specific attributes or lack thereof, but it’s simply a NON argument to say that Ben has had bad games... therefore?
Ben has also had incredible games, 3 PERFECT games even. He won the Super Bowl with a crap O line. And Ben has physical attributes that have bailed him out when he held the ball too long.
I’d love to be convinced that Rudolph is gonna be awesome, but in order to convince me you’ll have to tell me what you specifically see in Rudolph, not that good QBs have also been bad at times.
You know who else has been bad at times, BAD QBs!
I like Mason’s grit. I here he’s cerebral. He’d better be, because he isn’t physically gifted.
What else is he actually good at? Reading defenses? No. Seeing the field? No. Accuracy? No.
I need to see him start being good at actual QB things to believe he has the potential to be a good QB. If he doesn’t absolutely dismantle the Bengals, I’m sorry but I’ll hate him. There is no QB in the league who can’t beat the Bengals. And we should NOT have to get in a hole and come back. I’m sick of that shit. We should dominate start to finish. In all phases. If we don’t, I’m seriously out on this team and these coaches.
I think we should stop comparing Rudolph to Ben or Brady. If he does as good as Kirk Cousins that's also great.
Kirk Cousins isn't capable of carrying a team on his own, he needs a good supporting cast to succeed. For Rudolph I also think that Fichtner's gameplans are too conservative and in the Browns game he lost the top three playmakers on top of it, that would have been difficulat for any QB.
Ben in the AFCCG had AB... but, no Bell, and crap at WR. Ben managed to score a whopping 17 points.
I’d take Edelman at WR and White at RB... over Washington and Trey Edmunds.
That said, Rudolph is absolutely not seeing anything beyond his first read, and sometimes, he ignores that read and dumps it off instead. Kozora has a tweet yesterday showing a play designed to get DJ open. It worked perfectly: DJ was wide, wide open in the middle of the field. If DJ stands still, it’s a first down; if DJ runs afterwards, it’s likely a TD. Yet, Rudolph checked down & threw it at a covered Samuels.
Rudolph has the smarts. Rudolph has the study habits. Rudolph should know where to go. The problem is that he appears scared to throw it... even when a receiver is wide open (see above).
As far as mechanics go, Rudolph has a habit of not turning his feet and also not stepping into his throws. When he does both, he throws a nice ball. Alas, as is the case with most people, when there is pressure, they revert to bad habits.
SUMMATION:
If Rudolph a) stops playing scared, and b) uses the right footwork, he can indeed be an NFL starter. Otherwise, he will simply be yet another name on the extremely long list of “awesome” college QBs who could not transition their skills to the NFL.
We have 6 games to find out if he breaks through.
Right now the entire offense is such a mess, head to toe, that it is hard to blame just Rudolph. He has no run game, no reliable WR, and a surprisingly porous O-line. That said, he hasn't impressed in adversity either. :-(