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4 starts in who are some legitimate QB comparisons for Mason Rudolph? Not so much looking at glimpses of what he could be, what current/past NFL QBs does his game compare to today? Curious to see where this starts and how much it changes if at all by the end of the season.
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AJ McCarron? (Bama then Bengals backup who played QB in the Burfict/AB playoff game)Originally Posted by Born2Steel
Big numbers in college against non-NFL level defenders, no cannon for an arm, not particularly mobile or a running threat
Hope that assessment changes over the next two months for me
Chad Pennington
Pennington
Dalton
less mobile Neil Odonnell.
found this one on the internet -- Elvis Grbac
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Jon Kitna
I’m going to give him a full season before I start looking for comparisons that have some meaning.
4 games, missing time after he got his brain scrambled...definitely didn’t look good at all at the start, but he rebounded pretty well.
As others have mentioned, the #1 goal this season is to find out if he’s a QB you’re committed to going forward post-Ben.
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I'm looking to see how he self-corrects his mistakes last night. Based on what I've read, he'll do just that. I like the Chad P. comparison. And I'd take a healthy "Chad" for the decade of the 20's.
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Agreed, We will see at seasons end.
Neil O'Donnell. More of a short-yardage passer / game manager who doesn't make many mistakes. (that was my assessment before this game, I still think it's accurate)
With that said, I hope he's not a choker in big games like O'Donnell was.
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I agree with this also. I think Mason is a perfectionist, which isn't bad, he just needs to get some of Ben in his game.
What shetsh him apart is hish miiiiinnnnddd. (Slurred in my best drunk-Joe-Namath voice ...)
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Say hi to Suzy Kolber!
less mobile O’Donnell? I think Rudolph has already shown he can move around better than NO.
Kirk Cousins?
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3 Reel Treasure Slots Champion!That's probably pretty close. Me personally, I think Mason is going to develop just fine. A LOT of QB's struggle in their first year under center in the NFL. Peyton Manning comes to mind right away. Now, Im not saying that Mason is going to be Peyton, but damn, its only been four games for the kid. Let's exercise some patience with him.
If it goes bad,maybe Sam Bradford?
I'll try. Not my strong suit.
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So I don't mean to sound preachy, but do you exercise patience with students new to college? There is an adjustment period for all major changes in our lives, some adjust quicker than others. Some never adjust and you get Ryan Leaf.
Absolutely, I do. I'm far far more patient in real life. Especially in non football realms!
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It obviously is a totally different business and media setup now, but wonder how Bradshaw not really getting it together until December of his fifth year during the first Super Bowl run would have played out in today’s environment
I may be able to live with that.
Just coming full circle and saying Tommy Maddox
How about Ben Roethlesburger?!
First 4 starts
ben - 761 yds - 5TD - 2INT
Mason-785yds -7TD - 2INT
Ben had a hall of fame RB, All pro Line, and a veteran laden amazing defense to lead the way. Way too early to compare him to anything less. R-E-L-A-X
"I think they can count on me. And I want them to be able to count on me."
~ Big Ben Roethlisberger, 2005
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Yep!
The difference between the two is that you knew Ben instantly would be THE GUY. I was convinced watching Ben that by his 3rd game the Steelers couldn't go back and by the 4th start at Dallas it was iced, and after the bye week when he torched the Pats it was WOW!
Ruldolph I'm not sold on. In saying that when he got lit up that play he made was Benesque so that impressed me. But that's been it so far.
I don't see that 'zip' on his passes like a Marino (not saying he has to be that way) but maybe he's more of a touch guy and that's fine just when he puts the ball up it looks soft to me.
Steelers D is looking pretty solid, not legendary, but super solid and it can get the ball back something that has been missing for about 5 years lol
I posted this in the HERO/GOAT thread and I still believe it. With some more experience he could be a good Neil O'Donnell. So unless we build a championship caliber defense around him I'm not expecting him to be Ben's replacement.
His receivers really bailed him out in the second half on some really bad throws. He played "good enough" against a really bad team to win, but IMHO he is not the man and here is why:
- His deep balls lack zip and accuracy.
- He under throws guys horribly (again lack of zip).
- He misses wide open guys.
- He has no mobility whatsoever (I'm not asking him to be Lamar Jackson, just not a statue).
Yes I know it's only this 4th NFL start but compare and contrast him to Ben at that point of his career. Ben took the reigns and ran with it. Yes Ben had a great defense to back him up but that 2004 season Ben played lights out without fear.
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Ben also has the best rushing attack in the league that year. The only thing I question is the throwing behind WRs, he didn’t do that pre-concussion and in the preseason, I think that might have been the rust/fog. In fact I recall in the pre-season he was far more accurate and that is why I liked him. I will wait till after Indy to see if that was just this games rust/fog or if it is a thing going forward.
if he's still 'foggy' as you say why was he even playing to begin with?
because he played there's no excuse he was a dumpster fire in the first half and got bailed out in the 2nd half by JuJu et al.
So far Mason has only made that one play that impressed me circa Ben 2004-maybe 09ish when he scrambled and got popped.
aside from that pedestrian at best but 9 more to go to see what he's got...
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He was still off the first half, the second half he was much better, I expect him to be better this week also. He will hit the crossing routes just fine as he did before this game.
Yeah one thing I liked was that he showed mental toughness and bounced back. 22 days of not playing a snap will have some rust involved, hopefully that's all shaken off since the next test will be a tough one.
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