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    Season outlook at 3-4

    Remaining schedule and what we have to do:
    Colts - L (although the Broncos almost beat them with a good Def effort)
    Rams - L
    Browns -W
    Bungles - W
    Browns - W
    Cards - W
    Bills - W (if they somehow beat the Rams or Colts this can be a L)
    Jets - W
    Ravens - W

    This scary thing is this is completely possible, putting us at 10-6

    Ravens (5-2)
    Cheats - L
    Bungles - W
    Texans - W/L (We need a loss here or to the Bills)
    Rams - L
    49ers - L
    Bills - W/L (See the Texans game)
    Jets - W
    Browns - W
    Steelers - L (this could be for the Div)

    If they win both against the Bills and Texans they are at 10-6 and tiebreakers come I to it. The Rats beating the Seahawks really hurt our chances honestly.

    I want a 10-6, but ultimately think we end up 9-7 and out of the playoffs, but there is hope still!

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    The season outlook is honestly still very bad. But considering all the talent that we lost, even 9-7 is not exactly a disaster. Very, very few teams can lost their top 2 players, including their franchise QB, and end up with a winning record. If they somehow go 10-6 I'm not sure I want to hear about how bad that coaching is for a long, long while. That's what Belicheck did without Brady, IIRC.

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Outlook is a lot better than 0-3
    Must wine! No more can loose.
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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Outlook is getting a little better 3-4 is way better than 2-5 and, we all know it is a week to week league now days you never know what is going to happen on any given Sunday. If the Jets can beat the cowboys anything is possible LOL!

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    This week Colts. Tough game already. Gets tougher depending on the injury list. I think the defense can keep us in it. Should be close win or lose. Let’s go 1-0 this week.

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    The outlook is better than it was at the end of the 1st quarter last night!

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    I don’t see us going into Baltimore with the division on the line and winning there.

    They best us at Heinz with Jackson having a poor game. That was our chance to split with them.

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    The Colts and Rams honestly don't scare me much. 2 more home games after the rust is shaken off, I think if they jump on the colts early and force a couple turnovers this could be a W. The Rams struggle when they can't protect Goff.

    The games that worry me the most is Thursday @Browns, Arizona, and the finale vs Baltimore. The Browns will treat that game like their SB, and Arizona we rarely play great in their home field. Baltimore b/c well, that's always a tough game.

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Once again Mill doesn't post anything when the Steelers win, hmmm

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Quote Originally Posted by FrancoLambert View Post
    I don’t see us going into Baltimore with the division on the line and winning there.

    They best us at Heinz with Jackson having a poor game. That was our chance to split with them.
    You may be right, but it probably depends on Mason Rudolph's development. We have to hope that he's a better QB than he was in the first game. By then we should have a better idea if he really is the successor to Big Ben. If he turns out to be that guy, then we have a shot. If he's not that guy, then the season was pretty much over when Big Ben went down. I kind of assume that if he's good enough to get us to the point where we actually ARE in a position to win the division with a victory in Baltimore, then he's good enough to win that game too.

    At least that's the way I try to look at it.

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    Remaining schedule and what we have to do:
    Colts - L (although the Broncos almost beat them with a good Def effort)
    Rams - L
    Browns -W
    Bungles - W
    Browns - W
    Cards - W
    Bills - W (if they somehow beat the Rams or Colts this can be a L)
    Jets - W
    Ravens - W

    This scary thing is this is completely possible, putting us at 10-6

    Ravens (5-2)
    Cheats - L
    Bungles - W
    Texans - W/L (We need a loss here or to the Bills)
    Rams - L
    49ers - L
    Bills - W/L (See the Texans game)
    Jets - W
    Browns - W
    Steelers - L (this could be for the Div)

    If they win both against the Bills and Texans they are at 10-6 and tiebreakers come I to it. The Rats beating the Seahawks really hurt our chances honestly.

    I want a 10-6, but ultimately think we end up 9-7 and out of the playoffs, but there is hope still!
    I think we have as good of a shot at beating the Colts as we do winning some of the others that you marked. Plus it's a conference game so it might affect tie breakers. I didn't actually do the math to see if your scenario gives us the tie breaker over the Ravens if we split with them. Is that already baked in to your equation?

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodSteel View Post
    I think we have as good of a shot at beating the Colts as we do winning some of the others that you marked. Plus it's a conference game so it might affect tie breakers. I didn't actually do the math to see if your scenario gives us the tie breaker over the Ravens if we split with them. Is that already baked in to your equation?
    Actually, I'm pretty sure your scenario does give us the tie breaker. Fortunately for us all three of our victories were conference victories. The Ravens have three conference victories as well but both of their losses are conference losses. Obviously beating the Colts would be huge for us, but I think if things do play out according to your scenario we win the division. I'm not sure what happens if we beat the Rams instead of the Bills though. I'm not doing that math. Let's just assume we win all but one of our remaining conference games.

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    For the record I absolutely hate it when the Ravens play the Patriots. Obviously I have to root for the Patriots. But if the Ravens win this game we might end up needing to root for them against either the Bills or the Texans so that we have a shot at the wildcard.

    Just thinking about it makes my head hurt. Let's just beat the Colts and go from there, okay?

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Must wine! No more can loose.
    slight edit

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    I did not take tie breakers into scenarios, to early for me to start thinking about that stuff. I was just going by overall record at this point.

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Outlook is a lot better than 0-3
    Must wine! No more can loose.
    Is this a Pimply Dan reference?

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    I did not take tie breakers into scenarios, to early for me to start thinking about that stuff. I was just going by overall record at this point.
    I think when divisional rivals split, the first tie breaker is conference wins. At first glance it does seem like we have a decent shot at the tie breaker in your scenario. We’re fortunate that all of our wins so far are conference wins, and the Ravens 2 losses are conference losses. So if we are gonna lose two more, it’s best if they are not both conference losses. You have us losing to the Rams and either the Colts or Bills. This works. We can probably only really afford one more conference loss.

    But it might be best to just play it safe and go 12-4 for the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodSteel View Post
    I think when divisional rivals split, the first tie breaker is conference wins. At first glance it does seem like we have a decent shot at the tie breaker in your scenario. We’re fortunate that all of our wins so far are conference wins, and the Ravens 2 losses are conference losses. So if we are gonna lose two more, it’s best if they are not both conference losses. You have us losing to the Rams and either the Colts or Bills. This works. We can probably only really afford one more conference loss.

    But it might be best to just play it safe and go 12-4 for the season.
    The tiebreakers are:
    Games between teams (as you stated)
    Win-loss-tie record within the division
    Win-loss-tie record for games in common
    Win-loss-tie record for against conference
    Strength of Victory
    Strength of Schedule
    Best Rank: Point differential based on conference ranking
    Best Rank: Point differential based on league ranking (don't get this one?!?!)
    So on and so forth.


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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodSteel View Post
    Is this a Pimply Dan reference?
    It is, but this specific phrasing of it ( Must wine! No more can loose. ) dates back to the long ago time before the pox eclipse of 2010. You see... This ain't one body's story. It's the story of us all...
    "You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    It is, but this specific phrasing of it ( Must wine! No more can loose. ) dates back to the long ago time before the pox eclipse of 2010. You see... This ain't one body's story. It's the story of us all...


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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    The tiebreakers are:
    Games between teams (as you stated)
    Win-loss-tie record within the division
    Win-loss-tie record for games in common
    Win-loss-tie record for against conference
    Strength of Victory
    Strength of Schedule
    Best Rank: Point differential based on conference ranking
    Best Rank: Point differential based on league ranking (don't get this one?!?!)
    So on and so forth.
    I have no idea why I thought conference record was higher than division record. What’s funny is I always thought division record SHOULD be more important than conference records. I must have just misread it once and had it stuck in my head incorrectly all these years.

    Okay, well in that case it’s nice that the Ravens lost to Cleveland. So assuming we win the rest of our division games, we’ll be good on tiebreakers.

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Here's an image of the post that started it all:
    "You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    I'll leave the wining to them, I'm a beer man

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Update: Outlook at 4-4 is even better.
    "You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland

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    Re: Season outlook at 3-4

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Here's an image of the post that started it all:
    lol, I remember that board and that thread.


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