Steelers linebacker Anthony Chickillo arrested facing several charges

[tube517]

https://www.wtae.com/article/steeler...rges/29528843#

[Edman]

This week...on Days of our Steelers...

[Fire Goodell]

Ola is better anyway

[Edman]

This may be the golden chance to unload his useless ass.

The team just got off of an entire season of locker room cancer. There is no margin for error on the season and this fuckstick wants to act out. Not even talented enough to warrant the headache like Brown.

[AtlantaDan]

Chickillo and his girlfriend seem nice

State police said that Chickillo's girlfriend was cited for harassment as well.

https://www.wpxi.com/sports/nfl/pitt...iend/999711652

[GoSlash27]

[NCSteeler]

Chickillo and his girlfriend seem nice

State police said that Chickillo's girlfriend was cited for harassment as well.

https://www.wpxi.com/sports/nfl/pitt...iend/999711652

Had a few too many drinks looked at the wrong skirt. It happens. Haha

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[JayC]

Cut him I don't like him anyways he sucks

[steelreserve]

Didn't I make some post a few weeks ago, about how if Chickillo and Grimble decided to both go get arrested one night, nobody would really miss them? Well, we were already without one, now's our chance to put the full theory to the test.

[86WARD]

I think his Chick-illo is a Track and Field Star. She can probably throw a nice punch. She’s not bad to look at either. Might as well cut him and bring back AB if you’re gonna harbor a fugitive...right?!?

[FrancoLambert]

Chickillo’s best move is posing like a tough guy after somebody else makes a play.

[Dwinsgames]

hasta la vista baby

[tube517]

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I think his Chick-illo is a Track and Field Star. She can probably throw a nice punch. She’s not bad to look at either. Might as well cut him and bring back AB if you’re gonna harbor a fugitive...right?!?

He isn't gonna get the James Harrison treatment for hitting his girlfriend and breaking her cell phone. Seriously, it kind of sounds strangely similar to Harrison's incident, although I think the Harrison fight was over his kid.

[Mojouw]

He isn't gonna get the James Harrison treatment for hitting his girlfriend and breaking her cell phone. Seriously, it kind of sounds strangely similar to Harrison's incident, although I think the Harrison fight was over his kid.

That reads, to me, that they just told Chick-filet that he should take a break while they work through the cap ramifications of releasing him.

[Dwinsgames]

That reads, to me, that they just told Chick-filet that he should take a break while they work through the cap ramifications of releasing him.

maybe seeing if they can recoupe a conditional 7th from someone for the rights to the playbook ? LOL

[AtlantaDan]

He isn't gonna get the James Harrison treatment for hitting his girlfriend and breaking her cell phone. Seriously, it kind of sounds strangely similar to Harrison's incident, although I think the Harrison fight was over his kid.

Scrubs are not getting any benefit of the doubt

After Harrison had his assault the Steelers released Cedrick Wilson within the next two weeks on another domestic assault allegation

Not Dan Rooney's finest moment in explaining the disparate treatment of Harrison and Wilson

I know of the incidents, they are completely different. In fact, when I say we don't condone these things, we don't, but we do have to look at the circumstances that are involved with other players and things like that, so they're not all the same."

In Mr. Harrison's case, Mr. Rooney said the player was trying to take his son to be baptized.

"What Jimmy Harrison was doing and how the incident occurred, what he was trying to do was really well worth it," he said of Mr. Harrison's initial intent with his son. "He was doing something that was good, wanted to take his son to get baptized where he lived and things like that. She said she didn't want to do it."


https://www.post-gazette.com/local/n...s/200803210180

[HollywoodSteel]

He isn't gonna get the James Harrison treatment for hitting his girlfriend and breaking her cell phone. Seriously, it kind of sounds strangely similar to Harrison's incident, although I think the Harrison fight was over his kid.

The Steelers will react more conscienciously with this one because times have changed since the Harrison incident, and these types of situations have to be taken more seriously now.

Also... Harrison was good and Chickillo sucks.

I’ll leave it to you to decide what the more relevant factor is.

[Fire Goodell]

he'll be signed by the patriots in a week to back up winovich

[steelreserve]

That reads, to me, that they just told Chick-filet that he should take a break while they work through the cap ramifications of releasing him.

This is the one thing that could've happened to make his contract a problem for us. It was a cute move to do a one-year contract as a two-year deal with a signing bonus, but if we have to cut him *right now*, that's $2M extra we eat this year, which is basically all our remaining in-season buffer, plus we have to spend more on top of that to hire a replacement.

My guess is they are trying to find out if they can void the bonus because of some player-conduct clause, and if not they'll simply suspend him for the maximum number of games and then deactivate him. They could also be waiting to see if the league takes action first.

Well, in any case, it looks like I will soon get my off-season wish, and we will see the effect of replacing Chickillo with Player X from the vet-minimum journeyman scrap heap. It's a shame we had to do it the hard way.

After Harrison had his assault the Steelers released Cedrick Wilson within the next two weeks on another domestic assault allegation

Not Dan Rooney's finest moment in explaining the disparate treatment of Harrison and Wilson

That was a pretty cringeworthy moment. If I recall correctly, either Rooney or Colbert also said something like, "It was easy to cut this guy because he's the third receiver - Harrison's a Pro Bowl pass rusher, so we're keeping him."

Ugh. Like, all you had to say was, "Wilson should've known better, he knew we were already under the microscope from recent events, now we have to put our foot down." Done. Over and out. Clearly they did not consult with a PR specialist on that one.

[Fire Goodell]

Well the reality of the world is if you're valuable, you're held to a different standard. AB if he were the 4th-5th receiver would have been cut over the FB Live video. James Harrison was a defensive MVP, of course you aint gonna cut him over what you'd cut your 3rd LB for.

[Mojouw]

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsbur...ckillo-16938/#

From what I can gather looking at this, cutting him today is the same as cutting him at any point in the off-season. The 2020 dead cap is the same. It is just if they want to have another 1.1 million hit their 2019 cap sheet. Additionally, this move (cutting Chick tomorrow) appears to somehow actually save the team 2019 cap dollars.

Honestly, 1.1 million is chump change for an NFL team. Cut him now and use the rest of the season to evaluate Olay Alphabet Toledo.

[steelreserve]

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsbur...ckillo-16938/#

From what I can gather looking at this, cutting him today is the same as cutting him at any point in the off-season. The 2020 dead cap is the same. It is just if they want to have another 1.1 million hit their 2019 cap sheet. Additionally, this move (cutting Chick tomorrow) appears to somehow actually save the team 2019 cap dollars.

Honestly, 1.1 million is chump change for an NFL team. Cut him now and use the rest of the season to evaluate Olay Alphabet Toledo.

Nah man, if they cut him now, they eat $2.2M of bonus money against this year's cap; if they cut him in the offseason, it's $1.1M against this year's and $1.1M against next year's.

I had thought the numbers were more like $1M vs. $3M, or $2M vs. $4M, but more of it is rolled up into roster bonuses and next year's salary than I thought. So bottom line is we would only eat an additional $1.1M (plus the cost of paying his replacement), which sucks but would still fit under the cap. I think we have roughly $3M of in-season cap space, so with $2M plus a replacement, we'd be using all of it, maybe need to create more funny money with restructures.

We might as well just get rid of him, but it probably would've been about $2M cheaper overall if he was just on a regular base-salary contract like most of the other scrubs in the league, and all we were on the hook for was 6 weeks' pay. If we don't think he would've signed such a deal - oh well, he can have fun on the Patriots.

[tube517]

Scrubs are not getting any benefit of the doubt

After Harrison had his assault the Steelers released Cedrick Wilson within the next two weeks on another domestic assault allegation

Not Dan Rooney's finest moment in explaining the disparate treatment of Harrison and Wilson

I know of the incidents, they are completely different. In fact, when I say we don't condone these things, we don't, but we do have to look at the circumstances that are involved with other players and things like that, so they're not all the same."

In Mr. Harrison's case, Mr. Rooney said the player was trying to take his son to be baptized.

"What Jimmy Harrison was doing and how the incident occurred, what he was trying to do was really well worth it," he said of Mr. Harrison's initial intent with his son. "He was doing something that was good, wanted to take his son to get baptized where he lived and things like that. She said she didn't want to do it."


https://www.post-gazette.com/local/n...s/200803210180

Jimmy? I think Papa Dan is the only who could call him "Jimmy" lol.

[Mojouw]

Nah man, if they cut him now, they eat $2.2M of bonus money against this year's cap; if they cut him in the offseason, it's $1.1M against this year's and $1.1M against next year's.

I had thought the numbers were more like $1M vs. $3M, or $2M vs. $4M, but more of it is rolled up into roster bonuses and next year's salary than I thought. So bottom line is we would only eat an additional $1.1M (plus the cost of paying his replacement), which sucks but would still fit under the cap. I think we have roughly $3M of in-season cap space, so with $2M plus a replacement, we'd be using all of it, maybe need to create more funny money with restructures.

We might as well just get rid of him, but it probably would've been about $2M cheaper overall if he was just on a regular base-salary contract like most of the other scrubs in the league, and all we were on the hook for was 6 weeks' pay. If we don't think he would've signed such a deal - oh well, he can have fun on the Patriots.

The salary cap and I don't always get along, but you are coming up with far different numbers than this - looks like it is 1.1 million dead cap in 2020 no matter when they cut him and 1.1 in dead cap this year if they cut him soon which is cheaper than the 1.9 he makes if he is on the roster the whole year? Of course in raw cash -- he made more:


P

				Bonus Breakdown		Cap Details		Cash Details
Year		Age	Base Salary	Signing	Roster	Cap Hit	Dead Cap	Yearly Cash
2019		27	$805,000	$1,097,500	-	$1,902,500	$2,195,000	$3,000,000($3,000,000)
Pre-6/1 Release 2019 Dead Cap: $2,195,000 2019 Cap Savings: $-292,500 Pre-6/1 Trade 2019 Dead Cap: $2,195,000 2019 Cap Savings: $-292,500 Post-6/1 Release 2019 Dead Cap: $1,097,500 2020 Dead Cap: $1,097,500 2019 Cap Savings: $805,000 Post-6/1 Trade 2019 Dead Cap: $1,097,500 2020 Dead Cap: $1,097,500 2019 Cap Savings: $805,000
Potential Out: 2020, 1 yr, $3,000,000; $1,097,500 dead cap
2020		28	$4,500,000	$1,097,500	$500,000	$6,097,500	$1,097,500	$5,000,000($8,000,000)
2021		29	UFA
Sources: NFL contract specifics generally collected from verified reports.

[steelreserve]

The salary cap and I don't always get along, but you are coming up with far different numbers than this - looks like it is 1.1 million dead cap in 2020 no matter when they cut him and 1.1 in dead cap this year if they cut him soon which is cheaper than the 1.9 he makes if he is on the roster the whole year? Of course in raw cash -- he made more:


P

				Bonus Breakdown		Cap Details		Cash Details
Year		Age	Base Salary	Signing	Roster	Cap Hit	Dead Cap	Yearly Cash
2019		27	$805,000	$1,097,500	-	$1,902,500	$2,195,000	$3,000,000($3,000,000)
Pre-6/1 Release 2019 Dead Cap: $2,195,000 2019 Cap Savings: $-292,500 Pre-6/1 Trade 2019 Dead Cap: $2,195,000 2019 Cap Savings: $-292,500 Post-6/1 Release 2019 Dead Cap: $1,097,500 2020 Dead Cap: $1,097,500 2019 Cap Savings: $805,000 Post-6/1 Trade 2019 Dead Cap: $1,097,500 2020 Dead Cap: $1,097,500 2019 Cap Savings: $805,000
Potential Out: 2020, 1 yr, $3,000,000; $1,097,500 dead cap
2020		28	$4,500,000	$1,097,500	$500,000	$6,097,500	$1,097,500	$5,000,000($8,000,000)
2021		29	UFA
Sources: NFL contract specifics generally collected from verified reports.

The way those charts work is, the "dead money" is what you eat right then if you cut the player - and then the future dead money disappears because it accelerated into the current year. So in this case, if we cut him now, we would eat $2.2M now and nothing in 2020. But if we cut him any time after the end of the league year in March, it would be $1.1M in 2019 amd $1.1M in 2020.

And of course, as you pointed out, it looks like we would save about $500K in base salary for cutting him now, so the net effect on our cap would only be something like $600K this season plus whatever we paid his replacement, which is totally manageable. (Note: This still means we would have paid Chickillo a total of about $2.5M for playing 6 games and getting thrown off the team - d'oh.)

I also wonder if a league suspension means some of his signing bonus comes back to us, or some other cap space is freed up somehow.

Or it could be that they are waiting to see whether the police randomly announce in the next couple of days that it's all bullshit, and then it's back to business as usual. Who knows. A lot of questions over a guy who's not even that good.

[AtlantaDan]

Or it could be that they are waiting to see whether the police randomly announce in the next couple of days that it's all bullshit, and then it's back to business as usual. Who knows. A lot of questions over a guy who's not even that good.

Doubtful the cops will conclude the girlfriend grabbed her own arms

Visible injuries were observed on the woman's left and right biceps, police said.

https://www.wpxi.com/sports/nfl/pitt...rest/999711652

Can deactivate him pending what the league office does - question for me is does he still take up a space on the 53 man roster if he does not play pending a decision to (presumably) suspend him?

[steelreserve]

Doubtful the cops will conclude the girlfriend grabbed her own arms

[FONT="]Visible injuries were observed on the woman's left and right biceps, police said.

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Can deactivate him pending what the league office does - question for me is does he still take up a space on the 53 man roster if he does not play pending a decision to (presumably) suspend him?

I think that is what the commissioner's exempt list is for. Or maybe not, this is getting into a murky area.

Other than that, I think as long as you are not actually suspended, you are on the 53-man roster AND you are getting paid as usual. So whatever the case, they are going to want to get this sorted out in the next day or two. Probably consulting with lawyers and/or the commissioner's office today to see what they're allowed to do within league rules.

[EzraTank]

I'll wait for more facts but roids, alcohol and gambling ... what a mix!

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Nah man, if they cut him now, they eat $2.2M of bonus money against this year's cap; if they cut him in the offseason, it's $1.1M against this year's and $1.1M against next year's.

I had thought the numbers were more like $1M vs. $3M, or $2M vs. $4M, but more of it is rolled up into roster bonuses and next year's salary than I thought. So bottom line is we would only eat an additional $1.1M (plus the cost of paying his replacement), which sucks but would still fit under the cap. I think we have roughly $3M of in-season cap space, so with $2M plus a replacement, we'd be using all of it, maybe need to create more funny money with restructures.

We might as well just get rid of him, but it probably would've been about $2M cheaper overall if he was just on a regular base-salary contract like most of the other scrubs in the league, and all we were on the hook for was 6 weeks' pay. If we don't think he would've signed such a deal - oh well, he can have fun on the Patriots.

I think the owners need to make sure the next CBA includes a criminal charges clause that covers if a player is charged and convicted of crimes teams should be able to void their contract immediately and it not count a penny against the CAP. The key word here is CONVICTED.

[Fire Goodell]

is Anthony Chickillo gonna have to choke a bitch?