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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    LOL Robots that is funny.

    with all the electronics issues in a certain stadium wouldn't be an issue for these robots. I am sure they couldn't be hacked, controlled or manipulated in any way what so ever.
    I think all players should carry guns like in the movie The Last Boy Scout. Refs will have two think twice before throwing that flag.

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    What can be done about the officiating?


    Nothing.

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    What can be done about the officiating?


    Nothing.
    What WILL be done about the officiating?

    Nothing (fixed it for ya)

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    So that “lowering your head to initiate contact as a ball carrier” penalty has kinda went out the window...lol.

    Player safety yo!

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    Sounded good on ESPN but what we do on Sundays is our business. Blah blah. Browns getting call for a pick play against Patriots is just priceless

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    Too bad there wasn't something in place where the raiders could have challenged easy obvious PI at the end of their game.

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    Get rid of the refs that favor the Pats every year. The Browns hurt themselves in the first half with turnovers. Refs finish them off in the 2nd half. Of course not one penalty against the Pats in the 2nd half. Ps. was rooting for the Pats to win but come on let them win fare and square.

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    Not as much of an issue, but I don't see why they don't put microchips in each nose of the football. Given that the dimensions of a ball are a mathematical absolute (unless Brady's playing), it wouldn't be that hard to determine whether the nose of the ball broke the line for a first down or a TD. And, with all the wireless tech today and the downright cheap computing power, the biggest cost would probably be having to order all new footballs so the chip could sewn in.


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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    Not as much of an issue, but I don't see why they don't put microchips in each nose of the football. Given that the dimensions of a ball are a mathematical absolute (unless Brady's playing), it wouldn't be that hard to determine whether the nose of the ball broke the line for a first down or a TD. And, with all the wireless tech today and the downright cheap computing power, the biggest cost would probably be having to order all new footballs so the chip could sewn in.
    How will Brady get them deflated without the league known ?

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    You could start by making sure Brady doesn’t get extra time on the play clock whenever he needs it...lol.

    When you watch the clock count down to 15 and then bounce back up to 25 and then continue counting down...lol.

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    This week in officiating atrocities

    Goat of the Week

    David Oliver, down judge, Tampa Bay-Tennessee game.
    We’ve been over this quite a few times—when in doubt, officials have been told time and again to let the play go to its conclusion, even if they think the ballcarrier might have been down. On Sunday, such a play might have enabled the wrong team to win in Nashville. With 3:45 left at Tennessee, nursing a 27-23 lead, the Titans, with the ball at the Bucs’ 28, lined up for a 46-yard field goal try. Taking the snap, holder Brett Kern rose and starting running around left end. A fake. Tampa Bay’s Devin White stopped him cold with a brutal hit, and the ball popped loose as Kern fell; it was definitely out before he hit the ground. Anthony Adams of the Bucs picked up the fumble and returned it 72 yards for an apparent touchdown. But Oliver, as you see on replay, is seen waving his arms over his head, signaling the end of the play. Instead of Tampa Bay going ahead then, the Bucs took possession at the 28 but couldn’t score on their final two possessions either. Oliver is a good official, and he clearly looked to see if Kern got the two yards and when it was clear he didn’t, Oliver assumed Kern hit the ground and was down. It cost the Bucs seven points and quite possibly their third win.

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    It is not just screwing up judgment calls such as hands to the face (as in Detroit-Green Bay) or pass interference - it often involves simply ignoring league directives on matters such as when in doubt do not blow the play dead

    Looking forward to one or more playoff games being decided by an officiating blunder

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    The Bucs got robbed, they should have won that.

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    Quote Originally Posted by Edman View Post
    Do away with the legislation completely and call games as they go. Let the teams play. Regardless of how poor the calls go. Teams will complain, but they have to deal with it. Human error is just a part of life. If a catch is called a catch, then its a catch.

    The more the league tries to legislate the game, the worse the officiating will get.
    agreed, the refereeing could get better if the refs knew they weren’t going to constantly be second guessed.

    May be a good idea to give each team one or two replay options (on calls only) per game. just to minimize controversial calls

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    Arians on the screwup in the Titans-Bucs game

    "My biggest thing is, referees aren't held accountable. Coaches get fired. General managers get fired. Players get cut. Referees aren't accountable. And it's a shame. It's been that way for 40 years and now that we've got a new agreement, it'll be that way for 40 more years.”

    When I am in agreement with BA on anything it clearly has gotten really bad

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ld-accountable

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    The PI call on Diontae Johnson was bullshit. Luckily he had a nice catch and run TD a few plays later

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    Arians on the screwup in the Titans-Bucs game

    "My biggest thing is, referees aren't held accountable. Coaches get fired. General managers get fired. Players get cut. Referees aren't accountable. And it's a shame. It's been that way for 40 years and now that we've got a new agreement, it'll be that way for 40 more years.”

    When I am in agreement with BA on anything it clearly has gotten really bad

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ld-accountable
    It’s true. They are in a win-win situation. They make a good call they get paid ridiculous money. They make a bad call...ehhh...they get paid ridiculous money.

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    The PI call on Diontae Johnson was bullshit. Luckily he had a nice catch and run TD a few plays later
    Indeed. At least the Steelers still got the TD. If that had forced a FG (or no points) I would be livid.

    And, that’s the thing: when the team that “loses out” generally makes a play to overcome the bad call, no one seems to notice. Unfortunately, teams don’t always overcome those bad calls... and are losing games because of it.

    Here are two more examples of blown calls... that no one cared about:

    1. Mike Hilton reads a screen, breaks off his pass-rush, and is essentially going to get a pick-six. The Dolphin player (smartly) holds Hilton (preventing the INT). No call. It should have been a hold. Nope. Nothing. The Steelers got the ball back on the next play (the Steelers overcame the bad officiating), but what if the Dolphins has gotten 10 yards & a first down on the next play??? (as opposed to needing 20 yards).

    2. At the end of the game, the Dolphins’ QB fumbles the ball, their O-lineman catches the fumble, and before he can secure it, it’s stripped away and returned for a TD by Cam Sutton.

    The refs said that it was a pass. It was NOT!!!... it was clearly a fumble. Even if it was a pass, the ball ended up in Sutton’s hands. I know, I know: as soon as an O-lineman caught it, it became a dead ball. But, the O-lineman never caught it; it hit his hands... and was taken away. Of course, I’m pretty sure the rule says that he can’t even touch the ball (or else it becomes dead); in which case, it’s a bad rule.

    Since the Steelers were up by 13 (and won) no one noticed this play. But, what if the Steelers had only been up by 2 points. The Dolphins drove down into FG range (and would have attempted a FG). So, that fumble/non-fumble suddenly becomes a game-deciding play... that will simply get overlooked.

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    The PI call on Diontae Johnson was bullshit. Luckily he had a nice catch and run TD a few plays later
    IDK how the rule is written. He did not text book push off but he Interfered with the defender going for the ball . Roles reversed he certainly had defensive PI by holding this arm down

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    Quote Originally Posted by NCSteeler View Post
    IDK how the rule is written. He did not text book push off but he Interfered with the defender going for the ball . Roles reversed he certainly had defensive PI by holding this arm down

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    If that is called the other way and Miami challenges it, I’m not sure that gets overturned.

    Officials are throwing penalties on everything and letting Nee York handle it and those types of calls aren’t getting overturned because there’s not enough evidence. In the past, that’s not even a penalty call.

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Indeed. At least the Steelers still got the TD. If that had forced a FG (or no points) I would be livid.
    So they got a dong PI call, which fortunately, led to our dong TD, so it worked out in the end

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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    I know some of you are going to love this. Here is an interesting site that someone from another board found.

    https://www.nflpenalties.com/?year=2019

    You can sort by year/type/position/team etc.

    Have fun. Oh and by the way the Steelers lead the league in OPI calls. But are pretty good overall in most other categories.


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    Re: What can be done about the officiating?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    So they got a dong PI call, which fortunately, led to our dong TD, so it worked out in the end
    So many dongs. It’s like the Houston 500.

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