Rudolph is hurt. Rats win. The Season is a washout.
Officiating gets a huge goat for influencing the game.
Steelers coaching fails again.
Juju is the top goat. I don’t wanna hear how good he is. That is another game ending fumble because of him.
Rudolph is hurt. Rats win. The Season is a washout.
Officiating gets a huge goat for influencing the game.
Steelers coaching fails again.
Juju is the top goat. I don’t wanna hear how good he is. That is another game ending fumble because of him.
Only one. Juju.
Game ball to Hodges. Guy comes into that and almost pulls a win out.
JuJu and Conner sure can choke late in games.
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That was on juju, love the guy but he wasted a good effort by the defense
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Goats: Juju and whoever fumbled early. Ramon Foster had a shitty day as well. Refs with that horseshit call against Olaqwerty
Tom Brady for being such a whiny bitch that they made a rule after it, and that rule being misapplied 10 years later to cost us a nearly certain kneel-down victory.
Juju for not holding on to the damn ball.
Tomlin's decision to defer in overtime was possibly the dumbest mistake I have ever seen made by a football coach at any level. That was so bad he literally should have been fired before the kickoff of overtime. You never, EVER voluntarily give the opponent a chance to win with one score without you even touching the ball. Even though that's not what happened, you don't give them that chance. Especially when you can get that advantage yourself just by saying "ok." What a stupid, stupid, stupid idiot.
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This 100%. You always take the ball, always. If your def can stop them at the start, they can stop them after you get your chance also. Tomlin was lucky, but we still lost so it doesn’t matter.Originally Posted by steelreserve
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Except it worked - defense held, Steelers got ball in good field position and only needed a FG to end game without Ravens getting ball back
This was not having Brady & Gronk to drive on a gassed Chiefs defense
Tomlin gets trashed by some folks even when his decision pays off
Blind luck does not equal smart.
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Even with the loss i still like Mason Rudolph.
The defense remains the same, forced turnovers but struggled at times and the Steelers inability to capitalize on turnovers
Randy Fichtner, it took til they were down 10-0 before Fichtner figured out the existence of the forward pass without Ben. Also the defense had their typical breakdowns. Coaching needs a complete overhaul, even from Tomlin. I will say though Hodges did play well being thrusted in as a rookie.
I will also say this, Baltimore is clearly the 2nd best team in the AFC North behind Cleveland. They haven't beaten anybody and Jackson isn't a Super Bowl caliber QB. Also this defense is subpar. Baltimore needs a clear self-destruction by the Browns in order for them to win the division
I too am not impressed with the Ravens. They did everything they could to blow this game and Lamar Jackson is another Kordell Stewart.
The Steelers are just really not good this year. At all.
Tomlin for not calling timeout after the completion in bounds after the interception before the half. We may have scored a TD instead of a Fied Goal there had he called timeout.
we played for a field goal the last drive we had in the 4th quarter. didn't go for the TD and that cost us IMO. Also that bs roughing the passer was a big help for the ravens to get into field goal range for the tie. that ref crew was awful.
Too bad Juju keeps fking up in the most critical moments of the game. season unofficially over now
Just listened to the Tomlin presser, i think the guy just realized his days are numbered in Pittsburgh.
Goats have been covered well by others: JuJu with a late game fumble that gave the game to the Ravens right then and there, gets top goat this week.
There is no defense of Tomlin electing to defer after winning the toss in OT. I know he got away with it as the Steelers defense held, but I think that is the first time I can ever recall a NFL coach electing to defer after winning the toss.
This team keeps finding ways to come up short in games. There is talent on the team, so I don't think a full roster reset is in order. This is not just a reaction based on today's game, but I really think it is time to bring in a whole new coaching staff next season.
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Blind luck that a defense that got after Jackson since mid-way through the second quarter might hold Jackson in OT, which it did?
Whatever
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He was lucky, but as stated above, the Def could have stopped the Ravens after we tried for points first. Can’t give Tomlin for getting lucky, the right call was take the ball. It didn’t lose the game, but it wasn’t the correct call.
This game and season was their last gasp. This coaching staff is finished.
You can say Juju if you want but there was a whole lot more that came into that loss. Play calling for one. Deep in your own territory and you have your RB throwing a pass on 1st down??? WTF was that??? Next time you call it on 2nd and 1 from deep in your territory??? Get the Freakin' 1st down and then get the damn TD. That is purely a stupid coaching call and cost us points both times we ran it. STUPID!!!
Now with the game on the line the Refs called a Bullshit roughing the passer cal. Totally hosed us when we most likely could have won the game from that point.
Goats - Play calling on Offense and Refs Special teams didn't do much either so I don't blame Tomlin for his O.T. call.
Heros's Both Rudolph and Hodges, T.J. and the D over all.
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It wasn't blind luck. It was a calculated move based on the knowledge that the defense was dominating the Ravens and he bet they couldn't get in the end zone. It worked just as he hoped it would. He put faith in his defense and they came through.
Did you see how adamant Heyward was when telling the official they wanted to defer? That tells you everything you need to know. The players totally bought in and made it happen.
I have no problem with the move in that situation.
But. But. I wanna be angry and refuse to acknowledge it is possible to do everything correct decision wise and still lose.
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It wasn’t the reason for the loss (don’t get me wrong about my statements above) it just wasn’t a good call. The reason for the loss were TO’s and piss poor play calling in the red zone with the stupid WC. Conner was averaging 5+ypc and we have that BS with 1 yd to go.
It also took the pressure off of a young 3rd string QB knowing all they needed after getting the stop on defense was a FG to win the game.
JuJu has some work to do as far as ball security goes...
If Belkichek did it everyone would be talking about it was some 5D chess move.
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Belichick did it in 2013 when it paid off
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...wind-in-ot-win
And in 2015 when it did not
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...begin-overtime
But of course Tomlin doing it is unprecedented stupidity
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No GOATS today. Went in with a game plan that was working and winning. Then Rudolph goes out of the game and the game plan went out the window. (Mostly) Defense played well, got turnovers, limited Jackson. GREAT game by the Butler defense. The offense played well mostly but still making mistakes as a young team will do. Good game plan by both coordinators. Good execution by the players. Mistakes were made and players will learn. The season IS NOT OVER.
I was for kicking the ball and mentioned to do it in the game thread, D was playing at a high level and turn out to be the right call. Had the D look shitty then by all means you want the ball first.
Deferring did absolutely nothing to improve the chance of the defense getting a stop. The only thing it did was put us in a position where failing to do so was the end of the game. If we had taken the ball, we had the exact same odds of getting a defensive stop, except also with a chance to win the game outright.
Basically you are just defending outright stupidity, and who cares whether it's because you have faith in the coaches or whether you actually believe it was a smart move, either way it's flat-out wrong and there is no rational defense for it.
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Holy shit, soneone who gets it.
Seriously, that call was like a real-time litmus test for who is actualy thinking about the game and who is blindly trusting the coaches because they are the coaches.
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Just because you don't understand doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. Tomlin had to gamble on the defense or the 3rd string QB. He chose to gamble on the defense. That's all there was to it.
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