Sean Davis is gone after this year. Rosenhaus will probably make him do a video on Youtube and tell him to throw furniture off his porch and fart at his dentist.
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Sean Davis is gone after this year. Rosenhaus will probably make him do a video on Youtube and tell him to throw furniture off his porch and fart at his dentist.
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Speaking of loyalty, just think if NFL fans didn't show up at the stadiums on Sunday for a month or watch a game or buy a jersey. I think lots of issues would get fixed in a hurry.Originally Posted by Mojouw
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I spend more time here than watching the NFL. I have yet to watch a live play since early last season. I checked out some highlights on YouTube, but consistent lack of preparation and heart have made it easy to find better things to do.
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Fans will excuse just about anything by a player, coach or owner if they perform well.
IMO what drives attendance is winning & costs of going to a game while TV ratings in a home market are driven by winning.
Character issues and contract disputes are a good source of talk radio & message board fodder but I cannot recall when that ever impacted the popularity of a team. Those issues impact individual player endorsements and jersey sales (see A. Brown) but in that case a new player steps up to sell jerseys and endorse the product (see J. Schuster)
Same goes with the Fitzpatrick trade - he seems to be a “high character” guy (as Rudolph seems to be) but if the play by them is not up to expectations or higher not being a locker room cancer will not placate the fan base
I know this would go for any player in the NFL but Fitzpatrick would be the best DB in college football right now.Is Grant Delpit better than Minkah Fitzpatrick?
Maybe.
“A bird in the hand...”
Delpit is very talented but man Fitzpatrick was a beast during his time with Alabama. He won both the Chuck Bednarik Award, and Jim Thorpe Award the same year, which only two other players have done, those two being Charles Woodson and Patrick Peterson. Also, consider the proven factor in this, I'm not sure it's a debate.
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1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh
Exactly.
Delpit miiiight be better. But, IMO, probably not.
Maybe Delpit is Jamal Adams. Then again, maybe he is Morris Claiborne. Somewhere in the middle is LaRon Landry.
The point (upon which we agree) is that the draft is not a sure thing.
Conversely, Minkah Fitzpatrick is (at worst) the next Chris Harris, Jr. ... and possibly the next Eric Berry (sans the cancer and/or injuries).
Well he definitely made his presence felt in his first game. Great start no doubt.
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In all of the 2018 season, the Steelers safeties accounted for 2 total turnovers.
In the first quarter alone, Minkah accounted for 2 total turnovers.
ALSO... He barely knows the playbook. Just wait until he becomes “comfortable”.
Minkah is paying dividends already no question about it , that said the trade value will remain to be questioned if we continue to lose and creep up into the top 10 ( which is looking more and more likely as the weeks pass )
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Even in the Top-5, they still got Top-5 talent in that trade...
No rookie is going to come in and make that kind of impact..then throw in he had 1 week of practice. Every time he blitzed unless he disrupted QB they got gashed down middle. Hopefully butler figured that out since I know shit and saw it in third quarter. They should find different ways to utilize him. Sky’s the limit. Hopefully he can make everyone around better too like magic johnson, It would be nice to see Edmunds elevate his game
If you like the “playbook”.
In all of the 2018 season, the Steelers safeties accounted for 2 total turnovers.
In the first quarter alone, Minkah accounted for 2 total turnovers.
ALSO... He barely knows the playbook. Just wait until he becomes “comfortable”.
MFF! So that is what competent safety play looks like. I almost forgot.
Honestly, more impressive than his actual play was that he seemed to be pointing things out to other players and getting them aligned. Dude showed up on Tuesday!
If he can become the brains of this outfit of misfit morons, maybe it will start looking better.
For whatever the reason, this is the first game in a long time where the defense looked like it trusted what it was seeing, just played their assignments, and rallied to the ball.
Not sure he is in the right position to have the green dot.....unfortunately. MLB/lLB has been the player for us. Not sure that is set in stone. I haven’t observed enough other teams. Farrior was definitely the man for the job. I’m not sure if he was a better field general or tackler.
A bird in the hand...
But we have to give him 5 years and then possibly sign him to a long term contract. Sometimes players don't bloom until their 13th year.
Hater = Realist
for sure , but only if Rudolph shows to be the future ... otherwise your crack at a QB of the future gets put off where you would have had a great opportunity
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Parcells said the 1st round is ALWAYS about the QB. Either take a QB, someone to protect the QB, or someone to get after the QB. If Minkah is a safety that creates turnovers in the secondary and can create pass rush I think that fits right in there too. I understand he’s not going to get 2 turnovers per game but at least he will have the offense’s attention every game. Same as my hope for Bush and TJ.
True... if one feels that Eason, Tua, and Herbert (maybe even Fromm) are better than Rudolph. IMO, if they are indeed better, it’s not by a significant amount. As in:
Minkah & Rudolph > Davis & those QBs
NOTE: If it was the 2021 draft, and it was Trevor Lawrence... there’s no way I trade away a R1 pick.
Who says there wont be opportunity in 2020, 2021, 2022? Theres always opportunity no matter where you draft. Passing up an opportunity at a star player for a chance to draft JaMarcus Russell? Ill take the known commodity.
Good thing is you will never ever know any other way at this stage. Lol
Minkah had a pick and a forced fumble. Can't do much better than that. And if Fichtner had called more aggressive plays we would've scored more points off the turnovers and won.
Team should have both Rudolph and Ben next season and draft a qb the following year if need be. The way the Steelers are playing the 2021 1st should be a top 5 pick. Minkah is a stud and way worth next years 1. Dude was everywhere and actually a DB that makes tackling look easy.
Also if Rudy and Ben don't work out don't forget we got Hodges.
The last difference-maker we had at safety, obviously, was Polamalu - who we traded up for and took at 1.16. If you go back and look at the players taken in front of him in 2003, none of them comes close to having the type of impact that Troy had on the field. Maaaaybe an argument could be made for Terrell Suggs at 1.10 - but that'd be a really weak argument.
If that draft was done over, Polamalu is the first player taken off the board - without hesitation. Over all 4 of the QBs taken that year. If Fitzpatrick is as the Pittsburgh brain trust thinks he is, then go get him.
The only way we'll be able to make a meaningful comparison is to see who Miami takes with our first-round pick. Their QB situation is atrocious, so it'll almost be guaranteed that they take one with that pick. If that player turns out to be a Ryan Tannehill v2.0, then Colbert looks like a genius. There's no Mannings or Lucks in next year's draft class that are gonna be sure-fire studs.
IMO can't base it on who Miami takes with the pick ... have to base it on who is available at the pick point and from there who is more steeler like and most talented .... we can not let Miami be the barometer of that as they have not been very good at determining those things
last 5 QBs drafted by the Dolphins
Brandon Doughty 7th
Ryan Tannehill 1st
Pat White 2nd
Chad Henne 2nd
John Beck 2nd
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And then a few years before, some local western PA kid named Marino who the Steelers felt was too much of a party-boy.
Maybe it's a more accurate barometer to look at the what QBs were available with that pick, and if any of them ends up panning out. I just don't see anyone in the 2020 class that makes me salivate. It has a 2015 'Jameis Winston / Marcus Mariota' look to it. Not one of the QBs from that draft class ever did anything noteworthy.
I love this trade, especially after seeing him light it up on Sunday. We had a position of need and filled it with a proven high first round talent. IMO we needed Fitzpatrick a lot more than we needed a question mark QB.
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
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So do I. He is a natural and that is huge imo.
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