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The only positive for me is that I haven't changed my expectation for the season at all. I still expect 10-11 wins. One terrible game out of the gate against the best team in football on the road isn't going to do that. That's likely the worst they will play all year. The sky has NOT fallen yet. I say they win Sunday against the Hawks.
I take the positives that we got to see some players and evaluate:
-Mark Barron is a 4.6 40 guy and not the coverage LB we hoped he was.
-Kam Kelly showed why Mike Hilton or Cam Sutton should be playing FS
-Steve Nelson didnt seem tested at all, so maybe he locked down his side of field
- Devin Bush looked fast, but confused at times and we still have hope for great improvement when the game slows down for him.
You can when they keep coming from within...assistants of assistants is a recipe for disaster.Originally Posted by steelreserve
At this point, the people coming from within have all been Tomlin's guys for 10+ years, so what does that say?
Unless Tomlin has absolutely zero input in the hiring process, and is just taking whoever Colbert hands him (which I find highly unlikely), then this is his mess. If not, then it's Colbert's mess, and he shouldn't be let off the hook.
Bottom line, somebody fuckin' sucks at this.
See you Space Cowboy ...
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Well lookie here.........
Too bad this guy's career is going to be wasted playing for shit for brains Butler
He should have been covering Josh Gordon and not Vince Williams then.
I'm curious as to where the tackles took place. Are they Foote tackles?
Hater = Realist
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How long is Tomlin's extension? I don't think anybody on the current roster can read.
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All Defense!
He couldn’t cover Rex Burkhead...let alone Josh Gordon...lolHe should have been covering Josh Gordon and not Vince Williams then.
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So none of you actually want to hear anything positive. You just want to bitch.
One day the Steelers will get new coaches. And you'll bitch about it.
One day Ben will retire and we have a new QB. And you'll bitch about it.
To be honest...there really wasn’t anything positive in my opinion other than Ryan Switzer being Ryan Switzer and TJ Watt being dominating in the pass rush...but the defense couldn’t capitalize on him being double teamed.
I mean I guess you could say Chris Boswell is hitting 100% right now...so if that’s something to build off of...
The Taperiots didn’t even attempt a pass at Steven Nelson. Is he that good? I doubt it... but, it is indeed a sign that he’s better than what we’ve had out there in recent years.
That said, the obvious plan was to split the RBs out and take advantage of the ILBs. So, maybe Tom Brady didn’t bother looking at Nelson’s man. Yep, probably so. Still, for Nelson’s man to not be targeted at all can be a positive (if it is indeed scenario 1).
The only positive for me is we've seen this storyline before:
Ben plays sparingly in the preseason and comes out in Week 1 looking rusty, old and tired. Then he steps on the gas and looks like a pro-bowler by Week 2 or 3.
Tomlin 'does what he does' and eases into the season with a lame, predictable, uninspired game plan and takes it in the shorts. This seemingly lights a fire under his and the coordinators' sleeping asses and he actually gets the team ready to look NFL-caliber by again, Week 2 or 3. It seems to be the same script year over year. Whether it's the Ravens embarrassing us in prime time, or the Cheatriots doing for the 437th time in Foxborough, Tomlin never seems to make any adjustments and it becomes like Groundhog Day.
We've got the Seahawks coming up at home who just got done making the Bengals look relevant, and the the Niners who are currently a rudderless JV team. A couple of thumpings and this game will be firmly in the rear view mirror.
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Watt is getting better, unfortunately Dupree couldnt take advantage of it and beat a rookie tackle to get any pressure on Brady
Washington caught a pass, unfortunately we kept feeding it to Moncrief across the middle where he dropped 90% of his targets. Why can’t we use Washington that way? He is big and would be a beast across the middle and difficult for ILBs to cover. You know, what pretty much EVERY other team in the NFL does, create mismatches with big fast WRs across the middle against ILBs who can’t cover them?
We got this game out of the way, don’t have to see them again this reg season, in a few games this one will be forgotten and over.
The more I read about this game the more I understand that as Tomlin said, this team (coaches and players) were not ready. Seems like a testing the waters preseason game - which is ridiculous, the team wasn’t prepared for prime time against the patriots? - that’s a fireable offense in most professions.
But as a positive it means they haven’t played their best football yet - so there’s that at least
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Well to do that they would need to use pre-snap motion, play-action, and like half a disguise. All things Ben hasn't done in like 10 years.
WOuld be really nice to see.
Washington has build up speed, more than quick speed off the line. He worked at the slot in Senior Bowl and I don't think he has any issue with it. Honestly, I think its gonna take Ben losing confidence in Moncrief in order for him to look elsewhere.
All thru training camp, OTA, preseason ….we heard Ben say great things about Moncrief and it seemed like he was more a fan of what he could be instead of Washington. Washington got more reps with Dobbs and Rudolph than Ben and I think Ben's favorite targets are JuJu, Switzer and Moncrief. If he sees that Moncrief cant hang onto a football, then its gonna move to McDonald and/or Washington.
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Is McDonald still even on the team?? So much for needing another TE. They don’t use the one they have.
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TJ Watt was the defensive signal caller. Thoughts?
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Was that just for this game since Bush is a rookie? Isn't that job eventually going to Bush?
YesWas that just for this game since Bush is a rookie? Isn't that job eventually going to Bush?
Was there any positives to take from this game?
It only counts as one loss?
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The positive is that we beat them last year and it made zero difference on the season. Ultimately, losing to them will likely have the same result. Move on.
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Agreed.
It's only one loss. Panic should only start if they start stacking losses.
I don’t see how blasting your team after a pitiful performance is panicking.
Yeah, it was only one loss but I cannot see any legitimate positive sign to take from this game.
After a 33-3 thrashing, I think blasting the team's performance is just 'pointing out the obvious'
If it were a 33-27 or 7-3 loss, or even a 33-17 loss, heck, you can at least say something went right. but 33-3 = nothing went right. No offense, no defense, they were beat in every phase of the game.
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Cool Shades, is that you?
Bull crap. We made a field goal... LolAfter a 33-3 thrashing, I think blasting the team's performance is just 'pointing out the obvious'
If it were a 33-27 or 7-3 loss, or even a 33-17 loss, heck, you can at least say something went right. but 33-3 = nothing went right. No offense, no defense, they were beat in every phase of the game.
"Zeds dead baby, Zeds dead." - Butch
There we have it. Game Ball: Boswell, he didn't miss
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