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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    According to this, he is now on the Giants practice squad, so that's the end of that.

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    If Chickillo is let go they could take him from the Giants' roster, but Skipper would need to be on the 53-man roster for at least 3 weeks.
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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    If Chickillo is let go they could take him from the Giants' roster, but Skipper would need to be on the 53-man roster for at least 3 weeks.
    It really just seems like they're not interested enough in the guy to do more than make half-assed attempts to get him and hope things go their way. Oh well, that's just the way it is, I guess.
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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    It really just seems like they're not interested enough in the guy to do more than make half-assed attempts to get him and hope things go their way. Oh well, that's just the way it is, I guess.
    30 other teams seem to feel the same way...

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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

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    30 other teams seem to feel the same way...
    But this is a flawed analysis because not all 32 teams have the same need at every position, nor have they all spent the same time and effort evaluating any specific player.
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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Maybe something besides his play in preseason is why Skipper was skipped over. We may never know.

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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    I dont know why some think Skipper is such a great player, a polarizing figure that the Steeler need to have on the roster? He is a training camp hero, a Kevin Fogg, Marcus Tucker, Daryl Richardson. Sure he showed some promise against 3rd string Offensive players, but they can likely get him or another similar player as a UDFA next season. Even with Samuels back, they cut Edmunds and are free to sign him if they want. Its not like the rest of the NFL is rushing out to pick up Tuzar Skipper, because they think he is the missing link to winning games.

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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    I dont know why some think Skipper is such a great player, a polarizing figure that the Steeler need to have on the roster? He is a training camp hero, a Kevin Fogg, Marcus Tucker, Daryl Richardson. Sure he showed some promise against 3rd string Offensive players, but they can likely get him or another similar player as a UDFA next season. Even with Samuels back, they cut Edmunds and are free to sign him if they want. Its not like the rest of the NFL is rushing out to pick up Tuzar Skipper, because they think he is the missing link to winning games.
    I think it's because Skipper's floor has already surpassed Chick's ceiling. Chick also played against 2nd and 3rd string OL and didn't fair nearly as well as Skipper did. So, naturally, people are more enamored with Skipper's potential.

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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Quote Originally Posted by Blast Furnace View Post
    I think it's because Skipper's floor has already surpassed Chick's ceiling. Chick also played against 2nd and 3rd string OL and didn't fair nearly as well as Skipper did. So, naturally, people are more enamored with Skipper's potential.
    OK, but if I ask fans ….you can only pick one OLB between Ola Adenyi or Tuzar Skipper to be on the Steelers roster, who do you pick? I would be curious to know how that would break out. The preseason hero of 2018 vs the one of 2019.

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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    I'm burning my Skipper jersey!

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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    I'm burning my Skipper jersey!
    I’m Skipping my Burner jersey!

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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    I'm burning my Skipper jersey!
    Did u get a Skipper jersey, or just a new nameplate for your Sean Spence jersey?

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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    I dont know why some think Skipper is such a great player, a polarizing figure that the Steeler need to have on the roster? He is a training camp hero, a Kevin Fogg, Marcus Tucker, Daryl Richardson.
    Or perhaps a John Kuhn, Isaac Redman, or Hines Ward? Or more recently a 'Duck' Hodges? Some training camp heroes actually *do* pan out after all, and you don't know which category Skipper falls into. IMO if you have someone that whoops wholesale ass in the preseason on your team, you should at least give that guy a shot when you have a need at that position.
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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Or perhaps a John Kuhn, Isaac Redman, or Hines Ward? Or more recently a 'Duck' Hodges? Some training camp heroes actually *do* pan out after all, and you don't know which category Skipper falls into. IMO if you have someone that whoops wholesale ass in the preseason on your team, you should at least give that guy a shot when you have a need at that position.
    Agreed. Which is why I think there's more than just his preseason play as to why they didn't bring him back.

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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Agreed. Which is why I think there's more than just his preseason play as to why they didn't bring him back.
    Might be scheme fit and roster construction. They are going to have to carry a 3rd QB now, either on the PS or the 53 man roster. That is one less spot for a developmental OLB.
    They are going to also carry more RBs to help the rookie QBs not be terrible. Another roster spot that you can not give to a developmental OLB.

    Couple those restrictions with the fact that if I remember correctly, Skipper doesn't really play in space. So he doesn't exactly fit with the current version of the "run and hit" defense we are seeing from the Steelers in 2019.

    Plus a waiver claim would've meant he had to be on the 53 man roster. For reasons above, he doesn't fit there. I don't think they can give a roster spot to a player they have no plans of dressing. That job is already taken by Donte Moncrief!

    So PS -- I guess? I thought they would sign him there, but I guess they are not interested in a developmental OLB with one trick in his bag right now.

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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Might be scheme fit and roster construction. They are going to have to carry a 3rd QB now, either on the PS or the 53 man roster. That is one less spot for a developmental OLB.
    They are going to also carry more RBs to help the rookie QBs not be terrible. Another roster spot that you can not give to a developmental OLB.

    Couple those restrictions with the fact that if I remember correctly, Skipper doesn't really play in space. So he doesn't exactly fit with the current version of the "run and hit" defense we are seeing from the Steelers in 2019.

    Plus a waiver claim would've meant he had to be on the 53 man roster. For reasons above, he doesn't fit there. I don't think they can give a roster spot to a player they have no plans of dressing. That job is already taken by Donte Moncrief!

    So PS -- I guess? I thought they would sign him there, but I guess they are not interested in a developmental OLB with one trick in his bag right now.
    I think you just summed it up.

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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    The official symbol of the 2019 Steelers roster is a revolving door


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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    The official symbol of the 2019 Steelers roster is a revolving door
    This is more insane than that time when Tomlin said "heads will roll" and then cut Isaiah Green for the third or fourth time that season.
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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Stiller Nation be like
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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    I doubt he ever sees the field but I'm glad he's back.

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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Meh.

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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    I'm glad he made it back.

    It was always the plan to sign him back when they released him, but the path back to the team was much longer than anticipated.

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    Re: Steelers promote Holton, release Skipper

    Quote Originally Posted by vader29 View Post
    He can probably catch better than Holton.

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