How Does Tuzar Skipper Make The 53?

[polamalubeast]

Can’t complain about the CHick contract and then complain about the 2nd and 3rd string TE. It is the same principle at work. Chick was signed because, at the time, the team had 1.5 viable OLBs on the roster. So they addressed the issue by getting a solid capable back-up at the position.

Chickillo is the LUke Wilson of OLBs. So if we are going to all post dozens and dozens of posts about how we just wish some veteran journeyman TE would show up on the roster, it makes it kinda goofy to piss and moan about CHickillo being signed months ago.

You have a good point, it's just the contract I have a problem with, but at least it's not an awful contract, since the Steelers can cut him easily after this year.

I was also agreed with Colbert to not sign Jesse James 6 million a year like the lions did,even if the steelers have a hole at this backup position right now,and also I prefer have a hole at the backup TE position that the backup OLB.

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Breaking down the 5 preseason sacks by the Steelers’ Tuzar Skipper

One of the most pleasant surprises of the Steelers 2019 preseason is the inevitable BTSC Isaac Redman Award Winner Tuzar Skipper. In four games, Skipper had five sacks, two of which were also forced fumbles. Not even signed immediately after the draft as an undrafted free agent, Skipper earned his way onto the Steelers’ preseason roster via tryout at rookie mini camp in May. After putting up sack numbers which will get him noticed around the league, it’s difficult to find a reason to keep Skipper off the 53-man roster.

While the statistic of five sacks in four games in which players are splitting time is impressive, how impressive were the sacks themselves? At what point were they in the game? Where they on a blitz or a play where the pass coverage created the opportunity? In order to answer these questions, let’s break down all five sacks for Tuzar Skipper in the 2019 NFL preseason. I timed all of the sacks from the snap of the ball to the first contact made by Skipper. For simplicity’s sake, I rounded all times to the nearest 0.25 seconds.


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https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2019/8/31/20841751/breaking-down-the-5-preseason-sacks-by-the-pittsburgh-steelers-tuzar-skipper-linebacker

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

You have a good point, it's just the contract I have a problem with, but at least it's not an awful contract, since the Steelers can cut him easily after this year.
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I'm pretty sure that was the point. Sign a veteran backup for this season and hope Adeni develops in 2019 and 2020. An OLB will be a priority in the draft next season, as Dupree may be gone in 2020.

Honestly, the thought of the 2020 depth chart at OLB being Watt, Olaqwerty, Skipper isn't really strong.

[polamalubeast]

[tube517]

[BlackAndGold]

He made it.

[stillers4me]

[steelreserve]

Can’t complain about the CHick contract and then complain about the 2nd and 3rd string TE. It is the same principle at work. Chick was signed because, at the time, the team had 1.5 viable OLBs on the roster. So they addressed the issue by getting a solid capable back-up at the position.

Chickillo is the LUke Wilson of OLBs. So if we are going to all post dozens and dozens of posts about how we just wish some veteran journeyman TE would show up on the roster, it makes it kinda goofy to piss and moan about CHickillo being signed months ago.

The bitching and moaning about the Chickillo contract (at least MY bitching and moaning) was because I viewed him as no better than a replacement-level player. Use a low draft pick, invite a couple guys in for tryouts, and odds are one of them will turn out to be just as good. And that is exactly what we saw this preseason.

The TE situation is the same way. We panicked because we didn't have any established depth on the roster, so we signed a guy who really isn't very good to give us "peace of mind." Except unlike the LB situation, we didn't really keep looking (and did a shitty job drafting if that's what we were counting on). So now we're confronted with the fact that the guy we signed for peace of mind actually gives us no peace of mind, and we have shit options available.

That's why settling for players like that sucks ass. Sure, you have "a player" filling out the roster, but at the end of the day you wish you had somebody else, but you don't because you wasted your time and money dicking around with these fuckwads.

Like, if Grimble amd Chickillo got together tonight and decided to hold up a liquor store, and both ended up in jail, would you really be saying "oh shit, what are we going to do without Grimble and Chickillo - we're screwed!" Or more like, "Huh. Well that's weird, but it's not like either of them were any good, I'm sure whoever we get to replace them won't be any worse."

Same principle for both positions, except with one we tried out some randos and it turned out exactly like I said, and with the other we foolishly stood pat and it turned out exactly like I said.

[stillers4me]

[polamalubeast]

[st33lersguy]

The bitching and moaning about the Chickillo contract (at least MY bitching and moaning) was because I viewed him as no better than a replacement-level player. Use a low draft pick, invite a couple guys in for tryouts, and odds are one of them will turn out to be just as good. And that is exactly what we saw this preseason.

The TE situation is the same way. We panicked because we didn't have any established depth on the roster, so we signed a guy who really isn't very good to give us "peace of mind." Except unlike the LB situation, we didn't really keep looking (and did a shitty job drafting if that's what we were counting on). So now we're confronted with the fact that the guy we signed for peace of mind actually gives us no peace of mind, and we have shit options available.

That's why settling for players like that sucks ass. Sure, you have "a player" filling out the roster, but at the end of the day you wish you had somebody else, but you don't because you wasted your time and money dicking around with these fuckwads.

Like, if Grimble amd Chickillo got together tonight and decided to hold up a liquor store, and both ended up in jail, would you really be saying "oh shit, what are we going to do without Grimble and Chickillo - we're screwed!" Or more like, "Huh. Well that's weird, but it's not like either of them were any good, I'm sure whoever we get to replace them won't be any worse."

Same principle for both positions, except with one we tried out some randos and it turned out exactly like I said, and with the other we foolishly stood pat and it turned out exactly like I said.

Yeah because what does Chick actually do? What has he actually done? Taking up space on a roster doesn't count as actually doing something

[st33lersguy]

They had to keep Skipper, you don't see someone perform that well then cut him, you just don't

[Butch]

They had to keep Skipper, you don't see someone perform that well then cut him, you just don't

Unless you're the Raiders. They cut WR Keelan Doss despite him leading the team in receptions and yards. Probably didn't want to take a chance that he might show up AB. They are hoping to get him on their PS.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...cid=spartanntp

[steelreserve]

Yeah because what does Chick actually do? What has he actually done? Taking up space on a roster doesn't count as actually doing something

But ... don't you SEE??? By paying a premium price for garbage-level players, you give yourself PEACE OF MIND by going into the preseason with the roster spot already filled by a crappy player!! There might be a shortage of bad linebackers trying out for the NFL, so you better make sure you lock one up ahead of time! Surely you won't be able to find the exact same bare-minimum caliber of player if you go into preseason without one - what a dangerous and irresponsible risk THAT would be!

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Getting a lesson about Chick and Tuzar.

[HollywoodSteel]

Unless you're the Raiders. They cut WR Keelan Doss despite him leading the team in receptions and yards. Probably didn't want to take a chance that he might show up AB. They are hoping to get him on their PS.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...cid=spartanntp

Wow. I’m pretty surprised they cut Doss. I wonder if he’ll clear waivers. Hard Knocks might have hurt the Raiders because now everyone knows the kid can play.

Are the Raiders really that deep at WR? Really, this move was unexpected.

[st33lersguy]

Unless you're the Raiders. They cut WR Keelan Doss despite him leading the team in receptions and yards. Probably didn't want to take a chance that he might show up AB. They are hoping to get him on their PS.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...cid=spartanntp

Yep got to make AB, can't have another WR that may be good enough to poach catches from him and steal his thunder

[teegre]

Kozora wrote an interesting article a few months back about the things that Chickillo does well... which were quite many. BUT, pass-rush skills was not one of them.

[GoSlash27]

My concern now is that while Skipper and Gilbert have made the team, they may not *stay* on the team. We have too much depth at LB, and not enough at other positions like TE and CB. It's in the team's best interest to work trades to fill those gaps. It's in the players' best interest to go somewhere where they can get playing time. Somebody's got to go, so who gets it in the neck?

Current LB roster looks like this:
LILB Barron/ Bush
RILB Williams/ Matakevich/ Gilbert
LOLB Watt/ Chickillo
ROLB Dupree/ Adeniyi/ Skipper

[steelreserve]

My concern now is that while Skipper and Gilbert have made the team, they may not *stay* on the team. We have too much depth at LB, and not enough at other positions like TE and CB. It's in the team's best interest to work trades to fill those gaps. It's in the players' best interest to go somewhere where they can get playing time. Somebody's got to go, so who gets it in the neck?

Current LB roster looks like this:
LILB Barron/ Bush
RILB Williams/ Matakevich/ Gilbert
LOLB Watt/ Chickillo
ROLB Dupree/ Adeniyi/ Skipper

If either of our ROLBs can also play LOLB, they ought to be #2 on the depth chart there too, and hopefully Gilbert can surpass Matakevich before long. Chickillo and Matakevich are both guys I have zero confidence in playing in a regular defensive alignment.

I think they are likely both gone next year too along with Dupree (bad performance = not worth keeping, good performance = too expensive to be worth it), so hopefully we just make it through this year with one guy too many, and by then a couple of those guys are ready for some real playing time. May also be a reason why we went out of our way to keep those guys, we can see changes coming next year anyway.

[hawaiiansteeler]

The Washington Redskins just released former first-round receiver Josh Doctson, who they selected with the 22nd overall pick in the 2016 draft. and the Vikings released WR Laquon Treadwell the 23rd overall pick in the 2016 NFL Draft.

so yes, we could have done much worse. go ahead and take a closer look at the 2015 draft, it's easy to cherrypick a couple of guys who we should have picked instead but the vast majority were way worse.

[Six Rings]

I love it. Congrats to Mr. Skipper. You earned it.