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    I know Hodges is playing against 3rd stringers/guys who get cut but he looked good out there. And that one TD throw to Dionte Johnson while under pressure was an NFL caliber throw

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    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    I know Hodges is playing against 3rd stringers/guys who get cut but he looked good out there. And that one TD throw to Dionte Johnson while under pressure was an NFL caliber throw
    And the problem with Dobbs is he is not consistant in the routine throw, as we can see in the tweet in post number 242 of this page

    He showed 3 throw (2 yesterday and his bad throw against the raiders last year) and it was bad

    It's easy for opposing defense to play against a QB like him when you're prepared since the only thing you need to do is play a soft zone and tackle the catch strategy since Dobbs struggle way too much to make his routine throw...

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

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    Devlin Hodges. Where in the flying hell did this guy come from?
    He is the NCAA’s all-time leading passer (yards).

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    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    I know Hodges is playing against 3rd stringers/guys who get cut but he looked good out there. And that one TD throw to Dionte Johnson while under pressure was an NFL caliber throw
    Indeed.

    The first knock on him was that he played at a smaller school/against weaker competition. But, so did Khalil Mack... and, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, heck, even Big Ben.

    People will disregard what Hodges is doing, because it’s against “back-ups”. But, the kid has “it”. He was the talk of minicamp for a reason.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    He is the NCAA’s all-time leading passer (yards).

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    Indeed.

    The first knock on him was that he played at a smaller school/against weaker competition. But, so did Khalil Mack... and, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, heck, even Big Ben.

    People will disregard what Hodges is doing, because it’s against “back-ups”. But, the kid has “it”. He was the talk of minicamp for a reason.
    How many people here ever heard of Augustana college in Illinois?

    Some guy named Kenny Anderson came from there.

    Eastern Illinois - Tony Romo

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    He is the NCAA’s all-time leading passer (yards).

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    Indeed.

    The first knock on him was that he played at a smaller school/against weaker competition. But, so did Khalil Mack... and, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, heck, even Big Ben.

    People will disregard what Hodges is doing, because it’s against “back-ups”. But, the kid has “it”. He was the talk of minicamp for a reason.
    I saw another time on twitter that the comparison with Hodges was Tony Romo!

    Romo was also an undrafted free agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    How many people here ever heard of Augustana college in Illinois?

    Some guy named Kenny Anderson came from there.
    Pffft... what did he ever do!?!

    Next you’ll try to tell me that some QB from Northern Illinois would be found bagging groceries one year, and then become the league MVP the next year.


    Joking aside, the fact that Night Train Lane got drafted out of community college is the all-time “rags to riches” draft story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    I saw another time on twitter that the comparison with Hodges was Tony Romo!

    Romo was also an undrafted free agent.
    Yep. But, enough about the broadcast booth...

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    BR, Rudolph, Hodges.

    Trade Dobbs.
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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Dick "Night Train" Lane - what a story. The bus he rode went past the Rams stadium. He walked in and handed them a scrapbook and asked for a tryout. He originally was trying for a WR position. That is an all-time "rags to riches" story.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    BR, Rudolph, Hodges.

    Trade Dobbs.
    For what?...For a Third string TE?

    Dobbs has no trade value.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

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    For what?...For a Third string TE?

    Dobbs has no trade value.
    If he can catch turn him into a WR, if he can't make him an RB. Never hurts to have someone like that at another position. Wonder if the Steelers have even thought about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    If he can catch turn him into a WR, if he can't make him an RB. Never hurts to have someone like that at another position. Wonder if the Steelers have even thought about that?
    I do not think he's fast enough to play at this position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    He is the NCAA’s all-time leading passer (yards).

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    Indeed.

    The first knock on him was that he played at a smaller school/against weaker competition. But, so did Khalil Mack... and, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, heck, even Big Ben.

    People will disregard what Hodges is doing, because it’s against “back-ups”. But, the kid has “it”. He was the talk of minicamp for a reason.
    Carson Wentz came from the same subdivision and he was the 2nd pick. Louisiana Tech was in Division 2 when Bradshaw was there

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    What would Dobbs' trade value be versus his value as a not terrible 3rd QB to the Steelers?

    So if he is ONLY good enough to be a trade-bait 3rd QB, then what is that worth on the open market? A 7th rounder? A conditional 5th? Split the difference and say a 6th rounder.

    What is more valuable to a team with deep playoff aspirations an extra low round dart throw or a 3rd QB that might actually be able to help a team win a game? I don't actually know. But it isn't like Dobbs is fetching a 3rd or 4th rounder in return.

    I guess whether or not the team believes in Hodges and feels that he wouldn't make the PS could change the value judgements...but still a bit too early for all that.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    BR, Rudolph, Hodges.

    Trade Dobbs.
    Interesting on how all the Dobbs slobbering has so quickly changed to sentiments of "trade Dobbs" .

    I think the most fickle position of all to be in, is the Steelers backup QB position.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Landry’s trade value last year would have been higher than Dobbs right now. I see him on a practice squad somewhere. I only saw Rudolph’s touchdown led drive , so hard to judge with penalties every other play but he looked great on that drive. A few nice scrambles, nice throws in tight windows and dumped ball to rb’s when appropriate. I would say is a Neil O’Donnell type right now. We need to see more obviously

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    Landry’s trade value last year would have been higher than Dobbs right now. I see him on a practice squad somewhere. I only saw Rudolph’s touchdown led drive , so hard to judge with penalties every other play but he looked great on that drive. A few nice scrambles, nice throws in tight windows and dumped ball to rb’s when appropriate. I would say is a Neil O’Donnell type right now. We need to see more obviously

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Pffft... what did he ever do!?!

    Next you’ll try to tell me that some QB from Northern Illinois would be found bagging groceries one year, and then become the league MVP the next year.
    UNI actually. He was stocking shelves at HyVee.
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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Interesting on how all the Dobbs slobbering has so quickly changed to sentiments of "trade Dobbs" .

    I think the most fickle position of all to be in, is the Steelers backup QB position.
    At least with this fan base... But how hard can it be actually? All you have to do is come into a game cold with little to no practice reps, know the entire playbook backwards and forwards, have the confidence of the entire first string offense, and play QB as well as Ben Roethlisberger. Piece of cake.
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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by cubanstogie View Post
    Landry’s trade value last year would have been higher than Dobbs right now.
    Are you sure? Landry was unemployed for months after being cut, he signed with the Jags but was then released after a couple weeks (keep in mind this a team starting Blake Bortles at QB). He then remains unemployed for months until the offseason where the Raiders sign him only to release him after only a few weeks (keep in mind the Raiders as of now are keeping Nathan Peterman on their roster, who may be the worst QB in NFL history).

    I doubt any team was willing to trade for Landry

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Being able to move the chains and make accurate throws is the job of a backup. My biggest doubt about Dobbs is that he was terrible against a bottom feeding Oakland team last year. He hasn’t done much to change my mind. Rudolph and Hodges seem more capable to help the team win an ‘Oakland’ game this year if called upon.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post



    with a 45.6 QBR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    with a 45.6 QBR?


    This is the rock bottom for PFF...

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    with a 45.6 QBR?
    They must be driving the Dobbs Slobbering bandwagon.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Seriously, even on the eye test he was awful ... His interception and his awful pass on the 3rd down and 5 some play before should be enough to have a negative grade, especially that Dobbs had only 11 pass attempts

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Josh Dobbs hasn't regressed. It's just that the QB competiton is much better than before.

    When Dobbs won the #2 spot last season, he was going up against stiffs like Landry Jones and Bart Houston. This is why the Dobbs bandwagon was built in 2017-2018. Now he's going up against a progressing Mason Rudolph and Duck, who as a rookie is even better than both Dobbs and Rudolph's rookie seasons, and just may end up being the Darkhorse heir to Ben no one expected.

    Dobbs is good, but he just isn't that good to seperate himself. His foepaws and issues (Accuracy, footwork) are magnified tremendously. Being the only quarterback to toss an interception last night (a horrible one in fact) makes it even worse.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Dobbs needs to put the XFL on speed dial.
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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Interesting on how all the Dobbs slobbering has so quickly changed to sentiments of "trade Dobbs" .

    I think the most fickle position of all to be in, is the Steelers backup QB position.
    I despised the pick from day one.
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