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    Josh Dobbs is a complete mess. His accuracy was suspect, there were a few plays where he just completely overthrew his guy. He overthrew Xavier Grimble on one play and Steven Nelson picked it off. Iím not impressed by him at all.

    Mason Rudolph looks slightly better than Dobbs. Heís taken a step forward. He seems more comfortable in the pocket and goes through his progressions now. However, he goes through those progressions at a snailís pace, the pressure always gets there.

    I really like what I saw out of Devlin Hodges. He has a great feel for touch and has great ball placement. He made a few pretty throws due to that touch. He was the big winner of those backup QBs today.

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    https://samfordsports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6202

    Stats don't tell the story obviously but Hodges threw the ball A LOT in college.(About 50 times per game) He has more INTs than you would like but more TDs than you would expect. If he can play ST he may make the 53 as a backup QB and utility player ala Taysom Hill for the Saints.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    Reason for Rudolph's progress in question but the results aren't

    By JIM WEXELL
    Tue Jul 30 2019

    https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh...rent-134055595
    Good article. Like Rudolph says about having another set of eyes on his technique, footwork mechanics...

    I thought his mechanics were a little messed up in a couple areas in his draft year, so maybe this offseason work helps him with consistency and accuracy in the intermediate routes. Kid has a great attitude, leadership qualities, size, college production, etc. Some thought of him as a 2nd round value, so would like to see him progress to that over time.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Dobbs Vs Rudolph Battle Far From Over

    By Alex Kozora
    Posted on August 2, 2019

    Through the first six practices, I know we’ve been particularly tough on Josh Dobbs. And that’s for good reason. He’s had an underwhelming start to camp and ask me to choose between him and Mason Rudolph, looking at only these first six days, and the choice is easy. Rudolph’s been better.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    He has a tough road ahead to make the team. Not to mention living up to wearing Bubby Bristers number!

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Unless we shop Dobbs for a trade

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    Unless we shop Dobbs for a trade
    Steelers need to call 1-800-Gruden

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    Unless we shop Dobbs for a trade

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Great leadership by Ben.


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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue View Post
    Steelers need to call 1-800-Gruden
    He-he-he... I like that guy. Tomlin said he wants volunteers, and Dobbs was a Volunteer in college. Plus, Dobbs is like a space science guy... four plus four & Klingons & stuff. How many R1 picks we got next year???

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    Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    He-he-he... I like that guy. Tomlin said he wants volunteers, and Dobbs was a Volunteer in college. Plus, Dobbs is like a space science guy... four plus four & Klingons & stuff. How many R1 picks we got next year???
    Lol. Youíre not always ďall thereĒ...lol


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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Colbert Comments On Battle So Far Between Dobbs, Rudolph For No. 2 QB Job

    “Well, just to go back last year at this time Landry [Jones] was our clear number two from the previous season and Joshua put together a great preseason and won the number two job,” Colbert said. “And I think Mason, having watched that, understands that, hey, I watched a guy do that, why can’t I do it? So, he and Joshua are going through a real good competition and they’ll get their work in the preseason because Ben will just get what he needs and those other two they’ll sort it out and fight it out. And so far it’s been good.”

    According to our own Alex Kozora and his daily training camp reports, Rudolph has been the better of the two quarterbacks to date. That said, Kozora was careful to write just the other day that the battle between Rudolph and Dobbs is far from over. In his recent interview, Colbert pretty much echoed what all Kozora has written about the backup quarterback battle since training camp got underway at Saint Vincent College.

    “Mason’s done some nice things, obviously still things he needs to work on,” Colbert said. “Joshua, Josh never really looks as good as he does in practice as he does in the games, because when you add that breakdown, when something’s not there and he can break a defense down with his running, it’s a whole different game. So, exciting for both of those two but I can’t tell you how it’ll sort out yet.”

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Lol. You’re not always “all there”...lol
    I tell you what, man... you know who’s not “all there” is AB. He’s got a foot fungus or he’s getting a pedicure or something. I don’t really know - it’s wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    I tell you what, man... you know who’s not “all there” is AB. He’s got a foot fungus or he’s getting a pedicure or something. I don’t really know - it’s wild.
    Simms: Antonio Brown’s got frostbitten feet in a cryotherapy machine

    Posted by Mike Florio on August 6, 2019

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...erapy-machine/

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Alex Kozora
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    Rudolph struggle to move offense in no huddle. Six straight plays with no completion. Kelly breaks up final pass.
    that's only because our secondary is sooooo awesome!

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    With all the talk about Rudolph taking over for Ben when he retires. Would be funny if Hodges ends up being the guy.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue View Post
    With all the talk about Rudolph taking over for Ben when he retires. Would be funny if Hodges ends up being the guy.
    The next QB for the steelers after Ben era is surely not on this roster right now ... The Steelers just need to not make the same mistake as in 1983 if they have the opportunity to have a special QB in a draft.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    The next QB for the steelers after Ben era is surely not on this roster right now ... The Steelers just need to not make the same mistake as in 1983 if they have the opportunity to have a special QB in a draft.
    Sounding more and more like thatís the case.


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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    The next QB for the steelers after Ben era is surely not on this roster right now ... The Steelers just need to not make the same mistake as in 1983 if they have the opportunity to have a special QB in a draft.
    The Franchise Quarterback isn't the end-all be-all thing for team success. Everything has to come together for the Steelers to win. The Steelers have been to a Super Bowl without a "franchise" guy.

    Just as how you can't win Super Bowls with Neil O'Donnells and Kordell Stewarts of the world, Dan Marino won nothing ever, Ben hasn't won anything of note in a decade. The Great Aaron Rodgers hasn't done anything in nearly as long. Patrick Mahomes crashed and burned in the playoffs despite his record-setting season.

    If there is a special quarterback within reach of the Steelers, by all means take him, but that opportunity has to be there.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by Edman View Post
    Patrick Mahomes crashed and burned in the playoffs despite his record-setting season.
    you mean the game against the Cheatriots where he threw for 352 yards and 4 TDs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    you mean the game against the Cheatriots where he threw for 352 yards and 4 TDs?
    Just like Ben threw for 5 touchdowns and 460+ yards against the Jaguars a January prior. Both results were the same: They lost. The Pats went on to the Super Bowl to represent the AFC. Again.

    What I'm saying is that the franchise Quarterback is not the cure-all for Super Bowl wins.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    you mean the game against the Cheatriots where he threw for 352 yards and 4 TDs?
    Exactly. The reason the Chiefs lost that game was because they lost the OT coin flip.

    Kinda funny how the Patriots always seem to win postseason coin flips, particularly against opponents with suspect defenses.
    (see also: SB vs. Atlanta)

    Also funny how the Brett Favre/Peyton Manning Playoff OT Rule that was meant to ensure that both teams get the ball at least once in overtime (because the old sudden death rule was soooooo unfair) has continually failed to do so.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    KC Lost the game after Brady was intercepted which would have ended the game. Refs had to call a meaningless neutral zone call. After that you knew Pats are guaranteed to win in OT!.

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    Re: Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

    Quote Originally Posted by Edman View Post
    The Franchise Quarterback isn't the end-all be-all thing for team success. Everything has to come together for the Steelers to win. The Steelers have been to a Super Bowl without a "franchise" guy.

    Just as how you can't win Super Bowls with Neil O'Donnells and Kordell Stewarts of the world, Dan Marino won nothing ever, Ben hasn't won anything of note in a decade. The Great Aaron Rodgers hasn't done anything in nearly as long. Patrick Mahomes crashed and burned in the playoffs despite his record-setting season.

    If there is a special quarterback within reach of the Steelers, by all means take him, but that opportunity has to be there.
    If you have a very good QB with a very good roster, the chances are much better....Nothing is guaranteed but the odds are much better.

    It was the first time in almost 50 years that the Chiefs had been close like that to go in the Super Bowl and Mahomes was the reason why ... Mahomes and the Chiefs had no control over the Coin toss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Exactly. The reason the Chiefs lost that game was because they lost the OT coin flip.

    Kinda funny how the Patriots always seem to win postseason coin flips, particularly against opponents with suspect defenses.
    (see also: SB vs. Atlanta)

    Also funny how the Brett Favre/Peyton Manning Playoff OT Rule that was meant to ensure that both teams get the ball at least once in overtime (because the old sudden death rule was soooooo unfair) has continually failed to do so.
    In the Brady era, yes the Pats have won 3 times the coin toss in the playoffs (vs OAK in 2001,2016 vs ATL and 2018 vs KC) and 3 times, the opponents have not had the ball once ... .

    It's a stupid rule!

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