I distinctly remember a Steeler fan at the bar who wanted the Steelers to put in Dobbs when were down late and playing the Jags...I literally laughed out loud.Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson
I distinctly remember a Steeler fan at the bar who wanted the Steelers to put in Dobbs when were down late and playing the Jags...I literally laughed out loud.
I also hated this pick since day one, same thing for Rudolph, but it was not because of the player (especially in the case of Rudolph) but because the steelers did not need a QB right now .... But at the same time, the threat of retirement of Ben Roethlisberger's was one of the reasons why the steelers had drafted his 2 QBs, but I think the only reason why Ben had talked about retiring after the 2016 season was because of Todd Haley .
That’s my point, if We couldn’t get anything for an established backup , how would we get something for a third string unproven. I actually thought Landry would land somewhere, not the worst back up in league for sure.
Turnertheburner.com is a real thing ... trust me I have been a fan since Northern Illinois ...wanted the steelers to draft him in the worst kind of way ...Impressive!!! Truly. Not many outside of San Diego know how good The Burner was. This post made my day.
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now
Ben's word is law in the Steelers clubhouse. If he is talking retirement, especially out in the open to the media, then you can't just dismiss it as fluff. Todd Haley or no.
Very few QB would have been able to endure Todd Haley for 6 long years.
It's not the only time a QB forces an organization to do something ... Tom Brady had forced the pats to trade Jimmy Garoppolo 2 years ago..The important thing that happens very rarely something like that and that happened very rarely for Ben a thing like that
So true, Ben's talking of retirement had to be seriously considered and having a viable #2QB on the roster was made necessary as soon as that discussion was out there.
I didn't like the drafting of Dobbs, because he wasn't ever looking worthy of being anything more than a backup QB, IMO. He didn't look like a starting NFL QB in the Senior Bowl or college. Rudolph at least has the footwork, arm strength, productivity and other intangibles as leadership, 3 seasons at Manning Passing academy, etc....that make him look like he will be able to start games in the NFL.
which he has ZERO productivity of at the NFL level but you're right he's a 'leader'. Feel like im watching NFL Network with Tomlinson...'he looks like a player' well no shit sherlock lol how about some actual analysis.
Rudolph is becoming my backup version of Aaron Rodgers being grossly overrated without justification. It's just here say and fluff like this to boost stature into the upper echelon that makes me vomit.
And the Manning thing is fucking hilarious!
I'm 6'4 230...I bet if I attended his academy it would make me look like I could start in the NFL too LOL!
How about people learn to accept that he's not the guy to take over he's a back up nothing more.
I'd pick Hodges before Rudolph because I can't stand the fictitious hype.
I mean if you are going to put someone on blast for lacking in actual analysis, it might be useful to offer some in your own reply.
But what do I know.
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Well, it is his second year. He proactively went out and got a QB coach to work on his issues and his progress from last preseason to this preseason is visibly better. Better footwork, very good accuracy, checking down, better fundamentals. He appears to be in command in the huddle and the players work to make plays for him (which speaks to leadership). Obviously he doesn’t have years of NFL experience to grade him on, however based on the above, he looks to be the real deal. What is not to like? Dobbs is more mobile and has decent long ball accuracy, but based on last season and this preseason, is completely inaccurate on the short crossing routes, he also doesn’t set his feet before some of his throws (see int against KC) so he needs to improve his fundamentals (something Rudolph did on his own remember). I wasn’t able to see Hodges play against KC (thanks NFL network) but from the first game, he played well also. If I had to make the cuts today, I would keep Rudolph and Hodges honestly, can’t have those big misses like Dobbs has on the short crossing routes.
Somebody piss in your corn flakes this morning?
Have you watched any interviews of Rudolph during the draft process? The interviews at the Senior Bowl with Mike Mayock and Charles Davis?, The pre draft QB session with Steve Mariucci? The 30 minute QB2QB show last year with Russell Wilson and Mason Rudolph? All are some good sources to gain insight into qualities that cannot be found on the stat sheet.
As for the Manning Passing Academy, I think being invited to be a Camp Counselor there is an honor and an opportunity to learn from greats and pass on to the younger generation of QB registrants. The starters at Ole Miss and Tennessee get automatic invites, while guys like Rudolph (who attended 3 seasons in a row) have to be selected. I don't see the reason for hate on guys that are selected multiple times to be part of counselling future college QB's. But have at it.
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Checking in @ 3'6" and 550. I agree El.
Checking in @ 3'6" and 550. I agree El.Is that in bare feet, or with the Shoes on? Either way, very imposing in a B.J. Raji kind of way.
5'11-3/4", 230 and just sitting around waiting for my invite to camp.
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That would be "Shoes" on and besides that I have no opinion on Steeler TE position.
5'11-3/4", 230 and just sitting around waiting for my invite to camp.
I'm leaning towards Rudolph right now. Dobbs just hasn't impressed me at all, I just don't think he could win games if Ben went down. The long scoring drive that Rudolph had against KC proved it to me. It seems that the player's are comfortable with him, he checks the whole field, reads the defenses, and looks to handle the plays with confidence. Hodge also seems to deserve some serious looks and snaps as a 3rd. Dobbs just looks like a simple, average QB ( not franchise) to me. Just my opinion. Keep Rudooph as back up and battle out Hodge vs Dobbs for possible 3rd.
OK, but you do know that the Steelers could have passed on Dobbs and instead selected George Kittle in the 4th round in 2017?That would be "Shoes" on and besides that I have no opinion on Steeler TE position.
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.OK, but you do know that the Steelers could have passed on Dobbs and instead selected George Kittle in the 4th round in 2017?
Nice to see you. Must have been vacationing in Nova..
Sold.
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There's no trade market for Dobbs. The same people were saying trade Landry Jones for a 4th lol.
Nailed it.
me too, I'll take a conditional 7th round draft pick in 2029 for Dobbs...
Randy Fichtner Breaks Down The Rudolph Vs Dobbs Battle
ByAlex Kozora
Mike Tomlin framed it as an ongoing battle.
And Randy Fichtner provided the update.
Speaking with Steelers.com’s Missi Matthews, Fichtner gave his evaluation of Mason Rudolph and Josh Dobbs.
“They’re both different types of quarterbacks,” Fichtner explained. “Josh is very mobile and he’s not afraid to break it down with his legs. He’s made some really big plays for us.”
Dobbs’ mobility is unique for a quarterback and he’s already dazzled when pulling the ball down. His 49 yards rushing on three carries makes him the leader in rushing yards through two games. But Dobbs doesn’t look to exclusively run either. He’s shown the ability to hang in the pocket and run only when he has to, not at the first sign of trouble.
Fichtner then discussed Rudolph’s progression in that critical Year One to Year Two jump.
“Mason’s done a nice job improving on pocket passing, pocket movement, delivery of the football and making better decisions. I told him in the beginning protecting the ball will be as important as anything.”
Nowhere was Rudolph’s pocket presence more evident than this 3rd down completion to Xavier Grimble Saturday night. The slide to his left to avoid the blitzing DB, buying enough time to get the ball out.
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The coaches see the that the quarterback competition is heated and want to start pushing them more. Rudolph and Hodges are red-hot, and Dobbs is trying, but is so far unable to keep up.
Rudolph has been playing great but just have a feeling that Hodges maybe the best of the bunch.
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