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David Carr needs to do better at everything he is trying to do right now.
Who really cares what David Carr wants?
Fuck David Carr
"Zeds dead baby, Zeds dead." - Butch
OK, nice thread for posters to just criticize David Carr and avoid the actual topic. Just classic.
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Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson
Carr has a long history of posting nonsense. He doesn't deserve the credibility you are trying to give him.
I didn't even read it because I won't click any more of his hot takes to keep him relevant.
I just find it amusing that if anybody like David Carr or Dan Orlovsky says anything that isn't appealing to fans, they just instantly discredit them for being marginal NFL backup QB's, whether they have a point or not. If they say something they like, then its full on slobber treatment.
Its pretty much in line with all those that praised guys when they were Steelers, but then hack on them because they left in free agency.
So how many people here actually listened to the entirety of David Carr's shows before passing judgement on his comments?
and nah, Joe Montana is not one of the top 10 all-time great QBs...
David Carr just don't know how to judge a QB...
Bucky Brooks once compared Jarvis Jones first step quickness to that of Von Miller, during the draft process. Mike Mayock once said Alex Mack isn't that good of a O lineman, because he ends up on the ground too much in his Cal tape. Does that mean we should disregard any thought that Bucky Brooks and Mike Mayock have going forward?
I say no, but I definitely do temper it when talking about the areas they don't seem to show great ability to judge or evaluate.
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Maybe Skip Bayless or Colin Cowherd had something to do with this!!!
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I hear you, but the difference is everyone has had Joe Montana's entire career to rate him and see what kind of a quarterback he really was. It's a lot more difficult evaluating a college player and trying to project their talent into the pros. Montana's greatness was there for everyone to see, and I mean everyone. He is an all-time great that played at the highest level for an extended period of time. For Carr to say that Joe Montana isn't one of the top 10 quarterbacks of the Super Bowl era, he either believes that or he doesn't. With either position he completely discredits himself.
That's part of what I was referring to when I stated that Carr doesn't deserve to get his links clicked on. I've read a few of them, and most of what he says is either pure stupidity, or he's trying to piss people off to get more action. Either way, I can't stand people like that.
Big Ben may need to improve on making the simple plays, but Carr's opinion won't sway me because I gave him a chance to be credible....and he just isn't.
I would consider your opinion on the subject much more valid than his.
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Never been a fan of Bucky Brooks, but big difference between judging a player or a team before the facts that after the facts.
Hmmm............. two Super Bowl wins and multiple division and Conference Championships. Yea, he sucks. I can only hope my QB can suck at the same level.
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Some opinions and editorials just make no sense, that’s all. I had a Steeler fan tell me just this week he thinks the Steelers need to start the Mason Rudolph era already. His reason was because Ben is not a running QB and the defense knows how to attack him. See I would have listened to him even in disagreement if he made any sense. But a start Rudolph because Ben isn’t mobile enough conversation is simply one I have no patience for. And that is pretty much my feelings on the Carr hot takes as well.
I agree, once someone says something really stupid to me I'm not that inclined to hear her/his next opinion...
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3 Reel Treasure Slots Champion!So I guess we are just your 52 kids? Seriously, could you be more condescending? Why do you give a rip what posters think on this topic and why do you feel the need to judge everyone that thinks Carr is an idiot?
Just as commical as the people who go full on slobber to defend someone like David Carr or anybody else if they say anything controversial about Ben or defend the actions of AB.
I am on record as thinking AB is a great player on the field but and pure dickhead for how he left the team. Bell was just as fun to watch but seems to me was soley focused on Money and not much else. I actually believe he wanted to leave the Steelers a loooong time ago, but that's just a gut reaction.
As for JH he will always be remembered fondly by me and even though some things he has said and done have diminished what he accomplished he will always be a great player in my books
Others that have been discussed - ARE he got a ton of money from Dan Snyder and left the team on good terms no heartache here. Plex was not going to get paid and moved on to a team that would pay him. Always wished him the best when he left and welcomed him back when he finished his career with us was also a plus that he played a part in beating the cheats in the superbowl. I had no issues with Vrabel when he went to play for the cheats, as once again he left on good terms, and even had Cowher's blessings.
So your general statement about guys who praised Steeler players turning on them when they leave does not hold water here.
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What in particular did you hear that was worth defending?So how many people here actually listened to the entirety of David Carr's shows before passing judgement on his comments?
and nah, Joe Montana is not one of the top 10 all-time great QBs...
When we say something negative on Bell and Brown, it's not because we think they were not great player .... they were great players, among the best or even the best at their position in their peak but it's how they left and how they acted for the most part especially at the end
I was tired of the drama that the steelers had in their team for many years .... Brown and Bell was not the only reason, but they were still one of the reasons of this major problem.
GoSlash27 wants to see David Carr STFU.
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
nothing, I was just being sarcastic. should have put this:What in particular did you hear that was worth defending?
David Carr, the Winged God of Routine Play QBing
David Carr Super Bowl Ring ( ONE )
Carry received a Super Bowl ring as a backup for the Giants after their victory over the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XLVI
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I was talking talking about Ben, not Carr.
oh ok my bad sorry about that .
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Yeah, I agree that Montana is more likely in the top 3, not outside the top 10 and that kind of statement definitely makes you question if the guy is a hater or was backtracking from an omission or something.
But, I bet if Carr said something like "Ben poised to have breakout year with fresh young talent around him!" ...at least 50% of those Steeler fans bashing on him would be all over what he has to say.
Not unless Kevin Colbert says I have 52 kids on this board, which doesn't look like its gonna happen.
I find it amusing that by looking at the title of the thread, the majority of the posts would not be about the actual article from SteelersDepot, but about bashing David Carr because he supposedly wants to see "Big Ben Do Better Making Routine Plays". How dare an NFL analyst suggest that the QB who lead the league in INT's could "Do Better".
Or on the other hand perhaps we recognize Carr as just another self-aggrandizing media jackwad and don't care what he has to say. That's a possibility too.
In fact... That seems much more likely to me.
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
The fact that he stated that his brother Derek is better than Ben, lost any credibility for me.
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