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    Ramon Foster and Cam Heyward reject suggestions that Steelers need to be reined in by Mike Tomlin

    In a rousing endorsement of Mike Tomlin during OTAs on Monday, Ramon Foster made it clear that it was on the players to police themselves this season.

    If you had listened to all the noise coming from outside the Pittsburgh Steelers organization this offseason, you would assume that the Steelers are on the verge of collapse having said goodbye to Antonio Brown and Le’Veon Bell this year. But for those players that remain, the perspective from inside the locker room is markedly different.

    When not blaming Ben Roethlisberger or Kevin Colbert for the dysfunction that has seemingly plagued the Steelers as of late, Mike Tomlin is the one who has often come in for the most criticism. Accused of being too close to his players and lacking in discipline, the actions of Brown and Bell have landed at the feet of a coach labelled an enabler, while the behavior of the individuals concerned has largely been given a free pass.

    But while outsiders may expect Tomlin to adjust his coaching style in 2019, that does not match with the expectations of veteran leaders like Ramon Foster and Cameron Heyward. When speaking to reporters during practice on the first day of OTAs, both players made it very clear that there was no need for Tomlin to change the way he manages his team.

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    Re: Ramon Foster and Cam Heyward reject suggestions that Steelers need to be reined in by Mike Tomlin

    I do not agree 100% with that

    The Reply of Bud Dupree on Mark Kaboly was ridiculous...For those who have not seen this ...


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    Re: Ramon Foster and Cam Heyward reject suggestions that Steelers need to be reined in by Mike Tomlin

    Chickillo is the new AB on social media...he’s going to be a problem there...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Ramon Foster and Cam Heyward reject suggestions that Steelers need to be reined in by Mike Tomlin

    Chickillo/Chick-fil-a is CLOSED on Sundays.

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    Re: Ramon Foster and Cam Heyward reject suggestions that Steelers need to be reined in by Mike Tomlin

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Chickillo/Chick-fil-a is CLOSED on Sundays.
    Funny...seems like he holds true to that rule...

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    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Ramon Foster and Cam Heyward reject suggestions that Steelers need to be reined in by Mike Tomlin

    Up to the players to police themselves? That is a joke.

    If its Ben and 52 kids, then he should be the top cop to be policing and that didnt happen. He read out the crime stats on the radio show. If Brown was given special treatment like a rental house at St. Vincent College and the ability to slide into meetings late, then he was on the take and wasnt going to police anything.

    That leaves things up to the so called veteran leadership of guys like Foster, Pouncey, Heyward. They didnt keep anything in check, slap anybody around or mediate any kind of trouble that was brewing. Somebody has to keep things in line and Tomlin has to facilitate it happening from the top down.

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    Re: Ramon Foster and Cam Heyward reject suggestions that Steelers need to be reined in by Mike Tomlin

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Up to the players to police themselves? That is a joke.

    If its Ben and 52 kids, then he should be the top cop to be policing and that didnt happen. He read out the crime stats on the radio show. If Brown was given special treatment like a rental house at St. Vincent College and the ability to slide into meetings late, then he was on the take and wasnt going to police anything.

    That leaves things up to the so called veteran leadership of guys like Foster, Pouncey, Heyward. They didnt keep anything in check, slap anybody around or mediate any kind of trouble that was brewing. Somebody has to keep things in line and Tomlin has to facilitate it happening from the top down.
    Wait aren't you the one who says these are grown men? If they are as you say grown men shouldn't they be able to police themselves or are you buying into the Ben's 52 kids that need policing? You can't have it both ways.

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    Re: Ramon Foster and Cam Heyward reject suggestions that Steelers need to be reined in by Mike Tomlin

    Tomlin isn't the type head coach that can rein players in. So Foster and Heyward are not wrong.

    The smartest thing Tomlin could do is hire a time out sand challenge red flag coach ( Tomlin is like 1 for 9 on last ten red flags ) and let Ben handle the leadership and locker room stuff.

    This team has too much talent not to make the playoffs and win a game once they get there.

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    Re: Ramon Foster and Cam Heyward reject suggestions that Steelers need to be reined in by Mike Tomlin

    I’m not sure the players are wrong on this point.

    If Tomlin doesn’t have any problem players anymore, why should he change his style?

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    Re: Ramon Foster and Cam Heyward reject suggestions that Steelers need to be reined in by Mike Tomlin

    Quote Originally Posted by Six Rings View Post
    Tomlin isn't the type head coach that can rein players in. So Foster and Heyward are not wrong.

    The smartest thing Tomlin could do is hire a time out sand challenge red flag coach ( Tomlin is like 1 for 9 on last ten red flags ) and let Ben handle the leadership and locker room stuff.

    This team has too much talent not to make the playoffs and win a game once they get there.
    Then he shouldn’t be a head coach.

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    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Ramon Foster and Cam Heyward reject suggestions that Steelers need to be reined in by Mike Tomlin

    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    Wait aren't you the one who says these are grown men? If they are as you say grown men shouldn't they be able to police themselves or are you buying into the Ben's 52 kids that need policing? You can't have it both ways.
    Yes, for the most part these are grown men(other than the guys fresh out of college). They don't need college rah-rah motivation in order to play the game of football, or for coaches to treat them like 16 year olds and make them run gassers or do pushups and other stupid motivational tactics.

    They need somebody to act as a mediator, or manager, or officer to them at times of disorganization...just like in the adult workplace. I have worked in environments where a colleague is respected and managed to lead by example and been in other environments where that was done by managers.

    Last years Steelers was clearly a case where there were no players acting as leaders like that of the 2000's Steelers, so it should have been on the Coach to facilitate that leadership, either directly by stepping in, or indirectly by having senior leaders like Pouncey, Heyward, Foster refocus the locker room.

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