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    Yet you have Affirmative Action and many government programs made just for being a certain race. Blacks even get bonus SAT points just for being Black. Liberals believe Blacks are inferior to others. If they didn't then have these things?
    Good point. It's white conservatives that should have these things before they fall too far behind. Of course that's the real reason you elected Trump. He's affirmative action for poorly educated whites.

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    No, not yet, but you're gathering the building materials. However, I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. It's over your head.

    Talk about a lack of self-awareness ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Talk about a lack of self-awareness ...
    See what I mean? You couldn't even comment on it. Just another big zero.

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    See what I mean? You couldn't even comment on it. Just another big zero.
    Comment on what, you demonstrating that you don't know what "fascist" means? That was done hours ago; everyone else has moved on while you're still looking for the starting line.
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Now that's weird, it says "far-right" and then lists exactly the things that the left is doing.

    Well, I guess this settles it, guys. We're the fascists, and the ones who want authoritarian government, suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy AREN'T fascists, because they called us that first and have stupid Handmaid's Tale memes. They're the good guys, time to forget it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Comment on what, you demonstrating that you don't know what "fascist" means? That was done hours ago; everyone else has moved on while you're still looking for the starting line.
    Again nothing. Let me help you out.


    Fascism Scholar Says U.S. Is 'Losing Its Democratic Status'

    James DoubekSeptember 6, 2020 7:50 PM ET

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    Since it was first popularized by Italian dictator Benito Mussolini in the 1920s, fascism, and accusations of it, have been a common theme in American political discourse.

    Voices on the left warned of fascism in the form of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush; conservatives have accused liberals of actually being the ones to embrace the far-right ideology.


    Historians have noted similarities between Donald Trump and Mussolini since before the 2016 election. Some of the racial justice protesters this summer have said they are fighting fascism in the form of President Trump. And the presence of antifa — anti-fascist — protesters at some demonstrations has upped attention to the word.


    But what is and isn't fascist isn't even agreed upon by scholars.


    Jason Stanley, a professor of philosophy at Yale University, offers one perspective on the word. He defines fascism as "a cult of the leader who promises national restoration in the face of humiliation brought on by supposed communists, Marxists and minorities and immigrants who are supposedly posing a threat to the character and the history of a nation."


    Stanley, who is the author of the 2018 book How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them, tells NPR's All Things Considered: "The leader proposes that only he can solve it and all of his political opponents are enemies or traitors."
    Stanley says recent global events, including the pandemic and the protests, have substantiated his concern about how fascist rhetoric is showing up in politics and policies around the world.

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    On what has changed between when he first wrote the book in 2018 and now

    Well if someone described to you, "Here's country X. The leader of country X claims that he is going to remain in power for many years beyond what is legal. He sends federal forces in to quell largely peaceful protests for racial justice in his country. His attorney general seems dedicated to him over the rule of law. The major political party that controls the courts and most of the government has, as their entire platform, devotion to him."


    What would you think about that country? Where would you think the direction of that country was headed? I would think that country was losing its democratic status, especially when it had a history of voter suppression and the highest incarceration rate in the world as background conditions.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/06/91032...ocratic-status

    Sound familiar?

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    It sounds exactly like the Left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    It sounds exactly like the Left.
    This sounds like the left to you?

    He defines fascism as "a cult of the leader who promises national restoration in the face of humiliation brought on by supposed communists, Marxists and minorities and immigrants who are supposedly posing a threat to the character and the history of a nation.
    No wonder you're a Raiders fan.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by tom444 View Post
    This sounds like the left to you?



    No wonder you're a Raiders fan.
    Why do you think there are so many silent Trump supporters? Are you really that fucking stupid?


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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by tom444 View Post
    This sounds like the left to you?



    No wonder you're a Raiders fan.
    Actually, the left is the communists, marxists that are posing a threat to the character and history of this nation. It's pretty plain to see.............. unless you are one of them, eh Tom???

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    Actually, the left is the communists, marxists that are posing a threat to the character and history of this nation. It's pretty plain to see.............. unless you are one of them, eh Tom???

    thanks for making the point



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    Why do you think there are so many silent Trump supporters?
    Because they're really that fucking stupid.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Who is more worrisome, Trump, or the Republican party?

    Trump announced a 'surge' of federal agents to cities led by Democrats. The author of 'How Fascism Works' says Trump is 'performing fascism.'

    Charles Davis
    Jul 23, 2020, 2:12 AM



    Federal officers deployed huge quantities of CS tear gas in Portland, Oregon, on Tuesday. John Rudoff/Getty Images
    • Jason Stanley, a professor of philosophy at Yale University, is the author of 2018's "How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them."
    • Stanley spoke with Business Insider about the deployment of federal agents in US cities; what "fascism" would look like if it came to America; what happens if the president is reelected; and why he is more worried about the Republican Party than he is about Donald Trump.
    • "I'm not saying that Trump is a fascist," he said. "Trump is certainly performing fascism — it's performative fascism that we're seeing. It's the tropes of fascism, and I think that's worrisome enough."
    • Visit Business Insider's homepage for more stories.



    https://www.businessinsider.com/is-t...uestion-2020-7

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Politics & Policy

    Authoritarianism, Not Just Trump, Is Up for Re-Election


    Fear of fascism is no longer alarmist.

    By Francis Wilkinson
    September 20, 2020, 8:00 AM EDT





    Americans who think the coming election is their last chance to save the republic from authoritarianism — Americans, until recently, like me — are almost certainly wrong. Authoritarianism is already here, and what Americans will decide in November is whether it will grow more deeply entrenched.


    According to a new report, the U.S. is undergoing “substantial autocratization” — so much so that only one in five similarly damaged democracies has been able to reverse such decline. President Donald Trump’s administration is consuming democratic capacity at about the same pace that wildfire has been destroying the West.[/QUOTE]

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...thoritarianism

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Neither. The Democrat party is far more worrisome at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    Neither. The Democrat party is far more worrisome at this time.
    Ah huh, but Trump will promise "national restoration in the face of humiliation brought on by supposed communists, Marxists and minorities and immigrants who are supposedly posing a threat to the character and the history of a nation."

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Small example of humiliation brought on by communists, Marxists, domestic terrorists.









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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach1 View Post
    Small example of humiliation brought on by communists, Marxists, domestic terrorists.
    Ah huh, but Trump will promise "national restoration in the face of humiliation brought on by supposed communists, Marxists and minorities and immigrants who are supposedly posing a threat to the character and the history of a nation."

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Meanwhile, their presidential candidate is still out there campaigning hard for our votes.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Either way he will fail:

    Why Fascists Fail

    History’s autocrats have been the architects of their own demise. Even if he seizes power, so will Trump.

    Michael HirshJuly 21, 2020, 11:14 AM
    Italy’s Benito Mussolini addresses a crowd in Rome on April 15, 1934. ullstein bild via Getty Images
    Joe Biden, who is way ahead in the polls, has called it his “single greatest concern.” What if Donald Trump refuses to leave office freely if Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, wins the November election? Last weekend, the president openly suggested to Fox News that he might not accept the results, declaring: “I’m not going to just say yes. I’m not going to say no.” Indeed Trump is already working to invalidate the 2020 tally, accusing Democrats of plotting fraud through mail-in voting that might be needed because of the pandemic, and legal challenges by his allies are mounting at an unprecedented rate. Moreover, Trump has spent his entire first term trampling over the institutions of American democracy, obstructing justice and defying Congress and the courts and crying “coup!” every time he’s investigated.

    Alternatively, what if Trump doesn’t seize power illegally but is actually reelected? Surely that would amount to a virtual mandate, in his mind, to ignore the Constitution and the law of the land altogether. Plenty of fascists past and present—from Benito Mussolini to Vladimir Putin—have made mincemeat of vulnerable democratic systems to install themselves as autocrats. For more than four years, legions of Trump critics have accused him of having fascist tendencies, and American democracy now appears badly wounded, if not broken, and vulnerable to further manipulation, especially since Trump has turned the Republican Party into little more than a cheerleader for his personal aggrandizement. Only this week, in a move that echoed past fascist practices, Trump threatened to send in additional federal forces to American cities such as New York and Chicago that he said were run by the “radical left,” even without the cooperation of their elected officials.

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    Fascism, as the Yale University scholar Jason Stanley has written, “is not a new threat, but rather a permanent temptation.” And Trump’s words and actions indicate that he’s sorely tempted to emulate autocrats he admires around the world. One never knows for sure when Trump is joking—he insists he is whenever he is criticized for saying something especially controversial—but in 2018 Trump spoke glowingly of Xi Jinping’s brutal consolidation of power in China and his title of “president for life.” “I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot someday,” Trump said.

    So let’s suppose the worst: Trump—whom his niece, the author Mary Trump, calls the “world’s most dangerous man”—really does attempt to embrace his inner fascist in the coming months. The good news is that history tells us he will almost certainly fail in the end, especially since Trump possesses nothing like the fearsome competence or detailed programs of fascists past.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/07/21...cism-autocrat/

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Meanwhile, their presidential candidate is still out there campaigning hard for our votes.


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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    More lockdowns coming.


    How it all went wrong (again) in Europe as second wave grips continent

    (CNN) -- After successfully tamping down the first surge of infection and death, Europe is now in the middle of a second coronavirus wave as it moves into winter -- raising questions over what went so wrong.

    Daily case numbers in the European Union and United Kingdom this week reached record highs of more than 45,000 on a 14-day notification rate, according to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC), and new restrictions are being imposed in places that were well into reopening. Leaders have raised fears over the pressure that hospitals could face in coming months and the looming prospect of new national lockdowns.
    https://www.wfsb.com/how-it-all-went...dc0d93ce3.html

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    Oh well. Who cares? Cases don't matter.

    What went wrong is that lockdowns don't work and should never be done. It's been well established by now - you know, by science and stuff - that they just get you to the same place slower. So that's what they're seeing. Shouldn't have been done then and shouldn't be done now. Remove all Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Oh well. Who cares? Cases don't matter.

    What went wrong is that lockdowns don't work and should never be done. It's been well established by now - you know, by science and stuff - that they just get you to the same place slower. So that's what they're seeing. Shouldn't have been done then and shouldn't be done now. Remove all Democrats.

    Of course ^^^'s just BS pulled out of Rush, aren't you dead yet, Limbaugh's ass.

    There are trends that may explain the deterioration. The surge comes just after the summer vacation season, as workers return to city centers and children go back to school. The World Health Organization has suggested the increase could be partly down to the relaxation of measures and people dropping their guard, and evidence indicates young people are driving the second surge in Europe.

    Despite the rising numbers of cases, and recent deaths in Europe, the continent still compares favorably to the United States. Europe has reported 4.4 million cases and 217,278 deaths among a population of 750 million, while the US has reported 6.7 million cases and 198,000 deaths in a population of 330 million.
    https://www.wfsb.com/how-it-all-went...dc0d93ce3.html

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by tom444 View Post
    Of course ^^^'s just BS pulled out of Rush, aren't you dead yet, Limbaugh's ass.



    https://www.wfsb.com/how-it-all-went...dc0d93ce3.html
    You are the just best little Libby..lol. Do what you're told, fall in lock step with the party line... no matter how ridiculous, and chastise any that disagree with you. You are exactly what the Left loves.... a controllable minion.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    You are the just best little Libby..lol. Do what you're told, fall in lock step with the party line... no matter how ridiculous, and chastise any that disagree with you. You are exactly what the Left loves.... a controllable minion.


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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    You are the just best little Libby..lol. Do what you're told, fall in lock step with the party line... no matter how ridiculous, and chastise any that disagree with you. You are exactly what the Left loves.... a controllable minion.
    Actually the left calls them useful idiots.


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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach1 View Post
    Actually the left calls them useful idiots.


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    https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/senate...5iHqb0xTBhbiYw

    Could this be why there wasn't a word about human trafficking from the DNC while it was a targeted subject at the RNC?

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    Could this be why Donald and Melania sleep in different bedrooms? Is Melania an eastern European prostitute involved in human trafficking?

    The November 1992 tape in the NBC archives shows Trump with Epstein more than a decade before Epstein pleaded guilty to felony prostitution charges in Florida.
    https://www.facebook.com/nbcnightlyn...7785700703689/

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