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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    I still haven't heard anything from the hypocritical rich liberals, or BLM and other left-wing terrorists about the death of Bernell Trammell, a black Trump supporter shot in broad daylight.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/killing-o...-investigation

    Also did you hear about how a Cuban American business owner was harassed and basically a victim of extortion? It's ok though because BLM is the one committing the extortion

    https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...DBIb4RQP1ytiWc

    Anyone who still thinks BLM is an organization fighting racial injustice, and not a criminal terrorist organization using the idea of fighting racial injustice as a cover for committing crimes and terrorizing innocent people for their own political gain and power play is operation under delusion.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

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    To be fair, everyone and every side does it. It’s about whether you’re ever willing to at least consider you’re doing it. Stereotypes allow us a crutch to quickly categorize information. Just gotta be aware we’re doing it.
    I would say that the right has made a profession of it. Blacks, Mexicans, liberals, food stamp/SNAP recipients, so on and so forth. It's their bag. It's what they're about.

    Edit to add: And BTW, studies have shown that this predilection is what got Trump elected. They see it in Trump and they like it.
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Two bags are guarenteed to fit all sizes ,or your money back. If you are not completely satisfied call 1-800-GOO-DHELL We show 5 bags to choose from,most problems only need 2 bags .

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    Me thinks Worst President in American History should just focus on eulogizing

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    https://apple.news/Ap0v2vfkPRe6npcxCbQn59Q

    Someone must’ve told Trump he needs old folks in Florida to vote for him. The ones that overwhelmingly want mail in ballots.

    Now it’s all good? Funny how electoral college math changes political opinions.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    https://apple.news/Ap0v2vfkPRe6npcxCbQn59Q

    Someone must’ve told Trump he needs old folks in Florida to vote for him. The ones that overwhelmingly want mail in ballots.

    Now it’s all good? Funny how electoral college math changes political opinions.
    It doesn't change my opinion. The Electoral College is there for a reason. I know the Left hates it.... they would like for California, New York and New England to decide every Presidential election. There are 40 more states that get a say in it... regardless of how much the Left doesn't agree with it. The Framers were very smart men.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    It doesn't change my opinion. The Electoral College is there for a reason. I know the Left hates it.... they would like for California, New York and New England to decide every Presidential election. There are 40 more states that get a say in it... regardless of how much the Left doesn't agree with it. The Framers were very smart men.
    Nothing meant against the electoral college. But the winning map for Trump requires Florida. So now he’s down with mailing ballots? He’s a buffoon.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    Me thinks Worst President in American History should just focus on eulogizing
    Yeah they really are quite despicable.Turning a funeral into a rally for O'Biden,while they want to lock everyone else down and no one else can go to a gym or church or even have an outdoor picnic,all while they encourage thousands to riot across the country,and even allow people to go to casinos.But you can't go to the voting polls to vote because it's much to dangerous.How f$#king pathetic. Meanwhile Trump is setting them up by saying it's ok to have mail in voting in Florida a state that has done so for years and is equipped for it.Nevada sends out millions of ballots overnight without telling anyone.But we've never done that......hey just do it.We must continue to create chaos,that's our only hope to win this thing.We need those ballots that we can harvest here in Nevada along with those from our sanctuary cities.
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Who stands up and gives a standing ovation at a funeral. Classless



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    Ok, is there any liberal on here who speaks Biden that can provide an English translation to this?

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    I couldn't stop laughing @ 4:35 i had to freeze it. My ribs hurt. I want that meme.
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

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    Ok, is there any liberal on here who speaks Biden that can provide an English translation to this?
    I'm not one, but I can speak Liberal:

    "Vote for whoever the party tells you to, just because it's not Trump. We are 100% trolling you by force-feeding you the most obvious hack who will be a puppet of party bosses, but you will totally vote for him anyway out of blind obedience. Lol, twice in a row, too - can you believe these people? They'll fall for anything we tell them! ... (pause) ... Oh shit, what do you mean the mic's still on? They weren't supposed to hear that part! ... (pause) ... Yeah, I guess you're right, it won't matter. Anyway folks, ignore that last part - still vote Biden!"
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

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    Ok, is there any liberal on here who speaks Biden that can provide an English translation to this?
    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    I'm not one, but I can speak Liberal:

    "Vote for whoever the party tells you to, just because it's not Trump. We are 100% trolling you by force-feeding you the most obvious hack who will be a puppet of party bosses, but you will totally vote for him anyway out of blind obedience. Lol, twice in a row, too - can you believe these people? They'll fall for anything we tell them! ... (pause) ... Oh shit, what do you mean the mic's still on? They weren't supposed to hear that part! ... (pause) ... Yeah, I guess you're right, it won't matter. Anyway folks, ignore that last part - still vote Biden!"
    I have no idea what I just witnessed. Elder abuse maybe?


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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    As opposed to the other fully coherent old man running for the office.

    https://youtu.be/zaaTZkqsaxY

    At this point, we really need to vote for the meteor. Only the meteor can save us.

    "Read the manuals...Read the books."

    "You don't know that South Korea had 300 cases."

    And that is just the tip of the iceberg with the casual relationship to the truth displayed by the current POTUS. Let alone, possible cognitive deficits. Honestly, if you want to argue that Biden is manipulated as a tool of the party due to his age and mental infirmities - not sure that same argument can not be as easily hung around Trump's neck as well. They are only 3 years apart in age. Trump clearly just Tweets and speaks the last talking point someone put in his head. Biden, who knows? He just says seemingly random things. If Biden is a mouthpiece for the DNC, then Trump is a similar mouthpiece for first Bannon and now Miller.

    There is little difference between the two EXCEPT what platforms their various behind the scenes players would attempt to use them to implement. We've had 4 years of this toilet bowl. Might as well see if the other one is any nicer.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    As opposed to the other fully coherent old man running for the office.

    https://youtu.be/zaaTZkqsaxY

    At this point, we really need to vote for the meteor. Only the meteor can save us.

    "Read the manuals...Read the books."

    "You don't know that South Korea had 300 cases."

    And that is just the tip of the iceberg with the casual relationship to the truth displayed by the current POTUS. Let alone, possible cognitive deficits. Honestly, if you want to argue that Biden is manipulated as a tool of the party due to his age and mental infirmities - not sure that same argument can not be as easily hung around Trump's neck as well. They are only 3 years apart in age. Trump clearly just Tweets and speaks the last talking point someone put in his head. Biden, who knows? He just says seemingly random things. If Biden is a mouthpiece for the DNC, then Trump is a similar mouthpiece for first Bannon and now Miller.

    There is little difference between the two EXCEPT what platforms their various behind the scenes players would attempt to use them to implement. We've had 4 years of this toilet bowl. Might as well see if the other one is any nicer.
    That is the opinion of a mindless drone. I thought you had the ability to do better than that.

    What are the Democrats offering that I should be running toward, other than the fact that they insist insist INSIST Trump is evil and crazy - and that they have been screaming this for 4 years in an increasingly crazy and violent way?

    What does Biden offer? What's his compelling plan? Nothing. He throws out a few vague party-line talking points and the occasional Orange Man Bad.

    Is this what I am supposed to be running to? No, all the left is giving me are reasons why I should be running FROM this horrible disaster that has been the Trump presidency. Why? Well, because they said so, of course.

    Where are all these terrible policy failures? Where are all these examples of where the country is struggling along miserably because of Trump and the Republicans? Surely if he was as bad as the left says, they would be everywhere. But instead, the only change for the worse in the last 4 years is that the left has completely lost their shit, and has thrown a nonstop temper tantrum, which at first just made things a bit uneasy, like your bipolar ex who's off her meds, but has escalated into actual mayhem and unmasked evil.

    All these great failures of American policy - oh noooo, the European leftists don't like Trump either, what will we do. Blah blah blah the rich. Blah blah blah the corporations. omg I don't like the education secretary because she's a billionaire, even though it hasn't changed a thing. What a fiasco!

    Meanwhile, again - what is Joe Biden offering me? Well, from the look of it, his candidacy appears to simply be a proxy for DNC party bosses. It is the boldest request in U.S. history to blindly give unchecked power to a general political party. And in case you haven't been paying attention, that particular party has become unstable and dangerous, and is actively displaying it in the streets and through dictatorial one-man rule on a daily basis in case you forgot. You are voting to give power to the mob.

    What will happen if the Democrats somehow steal the election? Likely they will quickly move to establish permanent one-party rule. All mail-in elections with ballot harvesting, soft abolishment of the electoral college with the popular vote compact, and a declaration of amnesty and citizenship for all 30 million or so illegal immigrants. Possibly the state of emergency will be made nationwide and extended to accomplish this.

    Then comes the fun part: revenge and punishment. Large payouts to favored groups, funded by confiscatory levies on the rich white bogeyman, South Africa style. Strict controls on behavior and expression ay every level. We will be reassured that it can't happen here, we have our guaranteed rights to protect us, but ... some will make it through the courts and some won't. Overall, a loss. Then, the soft eradication of religion, soft requirements for orthodoxy of opinion to participate in public life, official favoritism based on minority status or political affiliation, and last but not least, the government getting out of the way when non-favored groups or individuals are attacked, violently or otherwise.

    That is the path of Democratic rule left unchecked. Four years of chaos driven by jealous rage, and at the end, who knows what will be left, or if there will even be the possibility of voting for anything different. You should be ashamed of yourself for aligning with such a thing.

    Man, that ranch in Wyoming is sounding like a lot less of a crazy pipe dream these days.
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    As opposed to the other fully coherent old man running for the office.

    https://youtu.be/zaaTZkqsaxY

    At this point, we really need to vote for the meteor. Only the meteor can save us.

    "Read the manuals...Read the books."

    "You don't know that South Korea had 300 cases."

    And that is just the tip of the iceberg with the casual relationship to the truth displayed by the current POTUS. Let alone, possible cognitive deficits. Honestly, if you want to argue that Biden is manipulated as a tool of the party due to his age and mental infirmities - not sure that same argument can not be as easily hung around Trump's neck as well. They are only 3 years apart in age. Trump clearly just Tweets and speaks the last talking point someone put in his head. Biden, who knows? He just says seemingly random things. If Biden is a mouthpiece for the DNC, then Trump is a similar mouthpiece for first Bannon and now Miller.

    There is little difference between the two EXCEPT what platforms their various behind the scenes players would attempt to use them to implement. We've had 4 years of this toilet bowl. Might as well see if the other one is any nicer.
    We've had over 40 years of the toilet bowl that is Biden in politics including 8 years as VP, and not once had he shown an ability to lead America or heck do anything other than put his foot in his mouth, plagiarize, and sniff and molest females of a variety of ages

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Then comes the fun part: revenge and punishment. Large payouts to favored groups, funded by confiscatory levies on the rich white bogeyman, South Africa style. Strict controls on behavior and expression ay every level. We will be reassured that it can't happen here, we have our guaranteed rights to protect us, but ... some will make it through the courts and some won't. Overall, a loss. Then, the soft eradication of religion, soft requirements for orthodoxy of opinion to participate in public life, official favoritism based on minority status or political affiliation, and last but not least, the government getting out of the way when non-favored groups or individuals are attacked, violently or otherwise.
    And that is where we differ. That is what you see when you look at the American Left. I see a vote for the installation of competent people at all levels of government. Currently, massive sections of crucial federal posts are left vacant. Most of the people who actually get things done at the State Department resigned; leaving a crucial arm of government rudderless and ineffective. I see it as a vote for Cabinet heads that will be around for more than 6 months and will have a boss that won't crap all over them if they have an independent thought. I see it as a vote for policies that will actually help someone, anyone besides the heads of corporations and the names at the top of the donor list.

    Just as you call me a "mindless drone" I could call you a "faux intellectual tin-foil hat Libertarian" who has substituted Internet driven conspiracy theories and lazy, reductive characterizations for actual critical thought.

    It is all a matter of perspective.

    Any way you slice it, both parties are flawed. Both candidates are unexciting at best. One could argue that Trump's entire platform was and still is "Obama Bad. Trump do different. All Obama gone root and branch."

    Like I said, METEOR 2020!

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    That is the opinion of a mindless drone. I thought you had the ability to do better than that.

    What are the Democrats offering that I should be running toward, other than the fact that they insist insist INSIST Trump is evil and crazy - and that they have been screaming this for 4 years in an increasingly crazy and violent way?

    What does Biden offer? What's his compelling plan? Nothing. He throws out a few vague party-line talking points and the occasional Orange Man Bad.

    Is this what I am supposed to be running to? No, all the left is giving me are reasons why I should be running FROM this horrible disaster that has been the Trump presidency. Why? Well, because they said so, of course.

    Where are all these terrible policy failures? Where are all these examples of where the country is struggling along miserably because of Trump and the Republicans? Surely if he was as bad as the left says, they would be everywhere. But instead, the only change for the worse in the last 4 years is that the left has completely lost their shit, and has thrown a nonstop temper tantrum, which at first just made things a bit uneasy, like your bipolar ex who's off her meds, but has escalated into actual mayhem and unmasked evil.

    All these great failures of American policy - oh noooo, the European leftists don't like Trump either, what will we do. Blah blah blah the rich. Blah blah blah the corporations. omg I don't like the education secretary because she's a billionaire, even though it hasn't changed a thing. What a fiasco!

    Meanwhile, again - what is Joe Biden offering me? Well, from the look of it, his candidacy appears to simply be a proxy for DNC party bosses. It is the boldest request in U.S. history to blindly give unchecked power to a general political party. And in case you haven't been paying attention, that particular party has become unstable and dangerous, and is actively displaying it in the streets and through dictatorial one-man rule on a daily basis in case you forgot. You are voting to give power to the mob.

    What will happen if the Democrats somehow steal the election? Likely they will quickly move to establish permanent one-party rule. All mail-in elections with ballot harvesting, soft abolishment of the electoral college with the popular vote compact, and a declaration of amnesty and citizenship for all 30 million or so illegal immigrants. Possibly the state of emergency will be made nationwide and extended to accomplish this.

    Then comes the fun part: revenge and punishment. Large payouts to favored groups, funded by confiscatory levies on the rich white bogeyman, South Africa style. Strict controls on behavior and expression ay every level. We will be reassured that it can't happen here, we have our guaranteed rights to protect us, but ... some will make it through the courts and some won't. Overall, a loss. Then, the soft eradication of religion, soft requirements for orthodoxy of opinion to participate in public life, official favoritism based on minority status or political affiliation, and last but not least, the government getting out of the way when non-favored groups or individuals are attacked, violently or otherwise.

    That is the path of Democratic rule left unchecked. Four years of chaos driven by jealous rage, and at the end, who knows what will be left, or if there will even be the possibility of voting for anything different. You should be ashamed of yourself for aligning with such a thing.

    Man, that ranch in Wyoming is sounding like a lot less of a crazy pipe dream these days.




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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    We've had over 40 years of the toilet bowl that is Biden in politics including 8 years as VP, and not once had he shown an ability to lead America or heck do anything other than put his foot in his mouth, plagiarize, and sniff and molest females of a variety of ages
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    And that is where we differ. That is what you see when you look at the American Left. I see a vote for the installation of competent people at all levels of government. Currently, massive sections of crucial federal posts are left vacant. Most of the people who actually get things done at the State Department resigned; leaving a crucial arm of government rudderless and ineffective. I see it as a vote for Cabinet heads that will be around for more than 6 months and will have a boss that won't crap all over them if they have an independent thought. I see it as a vote for policies that will actually help someone, anyone besides the heads of corporations and the names at the top of the donor list.

    Just as you call me a "mindless drone" I could call you a "faux intellectual tin-foil hat Libertarian" who has substituted Internet driven conspiracy theories and lazy, reductive characterizations for actual critical thought.

    It is all a matter of perspective.

    Any way you slice it, both parties are flawed. Both candidates are unexciting at best. One could argue that Trump's entire platform was and still is "Obama Bad. Trump do different. All Obama gone root and branch."

    Like I said, METEOR 2020!
    steelreserve shouldn't even bother to reply.

    I chuckle when the MAGA/KAGA crowd gloss over the continuous turnover in key staff positions during Donny's administration.
    Quite the coincidence to employ so many disgruntled employees. Gee....what have they seen and what do they know?

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    It is all a matter of perspective.

    Any way you slice it, both parties are flawed. Both candidates are unexciting at best. One could argue that Trump's entire platform was and still is "Obama Bad. Trump do different. All Obama gone root and branch."

    Like I said, METEOR 2020!
    And I would counter that by saying that even if Trump's ONLY accomplishment was undoing most of Obama's policies, that is an incredibly positive thing for the country. The previous administration took a "meh" situation and turned it into a five-alarm dumpster fire. At every turn, catastrophically failing and ruinously expensive policies. For eight years, a constant message of defeatism and demoralization. "Things are bad, they are always going to be bad, America sucks, the American dream is dead, no we can't. Big government is your only friend."

    Trump never could have been elected in the first place, nor could relatively simple common-sense measures have produced such radically different results, if Obama had not been a miserable failure as president and a complete joke of a man.

    Unfortunately, many of his followers are still stuck on that negative message of defeatism, because they do not like admitting that they were played by a smooth-talking politician.
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    I dunno. Again, I think it is about perspective. I heard something pretty positive, upbeat, and generally hopefully that things could get even better for 8 years. These catastrophic policies had enormous benefit to many people, myself included.

    I can not think of one group of people who are economically better off or more secure then 4 years ago. Maybe those with large stock portfolios and entrenched in the corporate bonus structure? Again, that is because I don't know all kinds of people. So a matter of perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrancoLambert View Post
    steelreserve shouldn't even bother to reply.

    I chuckle when the MAGA/KAGA crowd gloss over the continuous turnover in key staff positions during Donny's administration.
    Quite the coincidence to employ so many disgruntled employees. Gee....what have they seen and what do they know?
    I'm guessing we will never know. Or they will wait until after Trump leaves office and "courageously" write a book about their "brave" struggle to contain a wayward President.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Catastrophically expensive, huh?

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjo.../#4f99cc8a4819

    "When you compare the last three years of Obama’s Presidency vs. Trump’s first three years, Trump’s deficits will be almost $1 trillion greater at $2.47 trillion to $1.51 trillion for Obama. It doesn’t look like Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves."

    AND

    "...since 1970 the only times, until now, that the deficit has been above 4% of GDP is when there has been a recession."

    Unless Forbes is a biased creator of untrue facts, by GDP and national debt, Trump's first 3 years are an economic failure.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    I'm not very religious, understatement, but I would suggest that both sides get down on their knees and pray Trump is not reelected. Trust me, no one wants to turn that page.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Catastrophically expensive, huh?

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjo.../#4f99cc8a4819

    "When you compare the last three years of Obama’s Presidency vs. Trump’s first three years, Trump’s deficits will be almost $1 trillion greater at $2.47 trillion to $1.51 trillion for Obama. It doesn’t look like Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves."

    AND

    "...since 1970 the only times, until now, that the deficit has been above 4% of GDP is when there has been a recession."

    Unless Forbes is a biased creator of untrue facts, by GDP and national debt, Trump's first 3 years are an economic failure.
    And by every other measure, they are not.

    How about catastrophically expensive as in quadrupling my family's health insurance premiums, to the point where they would be completely unaffordable, almost $30,000 including the employer contribution? Oh, but that's just all right-wing propaganda. Surely the poverty-care program for all is the answer.

    Or, why not point out that federal spending increased by about $100 billion to $200 billion annually, a few percent per year ... until it suddenly jumped by 20 percent in 2009, which was supposed to be a one-time expense that was recovered (TARP loans) ... only Obama then made that level of spending permanent?

    Or ... Or! How about instead of cherry-picking Obama's last three years, how about his whole term, during which the national debt increased from $10 trillion to almost $20 trillion? Or how about Obama's first three years, when federal spending was nearly double federal income?

    Why, your hero is singlehandedly responsible for nearly half of the excess government spending in the country's entire history - in just eight years! More than double on average what Trump's budget has borrowed. Which in any case is largely a continuation of Obama- era spending increases. But let's just ignore all that. Surely the Congressional Budget Office is just pulling statistics out of their ass. Orange Man Bad.
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Catastrophically expensive, huh?

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjo.../#4f99cc8a4819

    "When you compare the last three years of Obama’s Presidency vs. Trump’s first three years, Trump’s deficits will be almost $1 trillion greater at $2.47 trillion to $1.51 trillion for Obama. It doesn’t look like Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves."

    AND

    "...since 1970 the only times, until now, that the deficit has been above 4% of GDP is when there has been a recession."

    Unless Forbes is a biased creator of untrue facts, by GDP and national debt, Trump's first 3 years are an economic failure.
    Economic failure? I think about that $1200 a month with a $10,000 deductible that I have to pay for every month if I want the "cheap" insurance.


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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    I dunno. I spent about 2 minutes on it and couldn’t find a fact based source that had the Trump economy performing better than the Obama economy.

    But apparently all these things exist. Maybe they’re on the secret internet?

    My health insurance premiums, employer cost, and deductibles all went down. Maybe your employer just sucks at negotiating?

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