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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Antifa isn't an organization in the same way the Crips aren't an organization. Sure, they don't have a national office and a CEO, but damned if they don't all show up together in well-supplied violent mobs to start shit for liberal causes. As a bonus, they even have their own logo, matching outfits and official social media accounts. It's like a really stupid Project Mayhem. But all this about them being our "imaginary friends" is nonsense, and another one of those things where anyone can see it.
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    What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Antifa isn't an organization in the same way the Crips aren't an organization. Sure, they don't have a national office and a CEO, but damned if they don't all show up together in well-supplied violent mobs to start shit for liberal causes. As a bonus, they even have their own logo, matching outfits and official social media accounts. It's like a really stupid Project Mayhem. But all this about them being our "imaginary friends" is nonsense, and another one of those things where anyone can see it.
    Well the Crips are a highly organized and hierarchical organization. So not sure the comparison holds up.

    And if the left has to answer for ANTIFA, why does the right not have to answer for the Proud Boys, all the boogaloo folks, or the white supremacists that show up at political events and protests for their side?

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Six Rings View Post
    According to polls, they prefer socialism over capitalism?
    This can't be correct, I doubt most in the poll understand what socialism really is.


    Then we have the angry Islamic tyyes, one of which recently said she was at five with the Nazi holocaust. A racist statment, which was not even called out by Democrat leaders.


    What's going on here?
    the Democratic Party ceased being democratic a long time ago, this is hardly our fathers’ or fathers’ fathers’ party that helped the middle class rise out of the ashes of the Great Depression. I tend to go with Carlin’s idea now : it’s a big party, and unless your a fat cat, your not invited. Political parties have become largely irrelevant.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Trump stole Hillarys' chair. He pulled it out right as she was bending to sit down. How dare the american people steal "elect" a loud mouth non-politician to sit in that chair that gives him enough power to dig into,and uncover some of the immense corruption of the Obama administration? How dare that be allowed to happen? Even some on the Republican party side seemed to be appalled. So it seems that Obama and V.P. took immediate actions to begin a smear campaign that has been on going even before the newly elected had a chance to take his seat in the oval office.104 allegations ensued. Each one proven wrong time and time again. Well lets go back to more Russia allegations,but lets link it it to the men who fight for our country.That just might do the trick. In the mean time lets keep pushin this corona thing that China seems to have unleashed onto the globe because that's an ingenious way that we can keep our candidate out of the public eye, plus we can pick questions that will be ask by only the media we chose and here are the answers Joe. I'm not a teacher by any means,but i know there are those that are. Isn't that called cheating? Boy we are in for some really big news to break any day now.
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by cold-hard-steel View Post
    ...............................In the mean time lets keep pushin this corona thing that China seems to have unleashed onto the globe because that's an ingenious way that we can keep our candidate out of the public eye, plus we can pick questions that will be ask by only the media we chose and here are the answers Joe. I'm not a teacher by any means,but i know there are those that are. Isn't that called cheating? Boy we are in for some really big news to break any day now.

    Huh?

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    V.P. candidate must be Female and one of color. So lets discriminate on sex and color of skin and leave out the content of character part that we so strongly support.

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    lol! Shouldn't you be down in Florida sniffing and being in charge of handling Toms' jock?
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by cold-hard-steel View Post
    lol! Shouldn't you be down in Florida sniffing and being in charge of handling Toms' jock?
    Ah duh, shouldn't you be down in Florida sniffing and being in charge of handling Toms' jock?, duh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom444 View Post
    Ah duh, shouldn't you be down in Florida sniffing and being in charge of handling Toms' jock?, duh.
    1) What has Joe done for the good of the Black community?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom444 View Post
    Ah duh, shouldn't you be down in Florida sniffing and being in charge of handling Toms' jock?, duh.
    I would never want your job. never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    2) What has Joe done for the good of the Black community?
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by cold-hard-steel View Post
    V.P. candidate must be Female and one of color. So lets discriminate on sex and color of skin and leave out the content of character part that we so strongly support.



    lol! Shouldn't you be down in Florida sniffing and being in charge of handling Toms' jock?
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    Someone is off their TDS meds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Well the Crips are a highly organized and hierarchical organization. So not sure the comparison holds up.

    And if the left has to answer for ANTIFA, why does the right not have to answer for the Proud Boys, all the boogaloo folks, or the white supremacists that show up at political events and protests for their side?
    Why doesn't the right have to answer for it? Because groups like the Proud Boys and white supremacists are condemned and marginalized by other conservatives. That's their answer for it.

    Antifa is widely supported and defended by leftists, and public officials in Democrat-controlled cities and states give them the green light with a wink and a nod. Others on the left try to wave off their violence as a right-wing conspiracy theory - and if I had to guess why, it's because they are in an uncomfortable situation where they can see what is happening is wrong, but since they are on the same side, they try to bury their heads in the sand and downplay it. Ends justify the means and all, so if we just deny and delay for a little while longer, justice will be served in November and all will be right with the world, so then we can put all this ugliness behind us and pretend it never happened.

    The "Boogaloo" was another 4chan prank that made its way into the mainstream, who completely fell for it - like the "OK" sign meaning "white power," or the "Islam is right about women" posters. Not that the bogaloo people were really central to the point, but just in case you or anyone else weren't aware that thing in particular was a complete joke.

    As for the Crips, you may be right. I remember back a few years ago, I was looking for Crips gear for a Christmas present, but I was having problems ordering off their website. So I called their 800 number, and their phone menu was really easy and got me to a live person in just a couple of minutes. She was super helpful, and explained that they were having problems with their online store's credit card processing, but she was able to have my order delivered to the Crips Store in Los Angeles for pick-up the next day. Overall a much smoother and more professional experience than trying to order from Antifa, where their support team just called me a racist and sent someone to throw a bottle at me.
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by cold-hard-steel View Post
    V.P. candidate must be Female and one of color. So lets discriminate on sex and color of skin and leave out the content of character part that we so strongly support.


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    lol! Shouldn't you be down in Florida sniffing and being in charge of handling Toms' jock?
    Yeah, Mike Pence is the gold standard for VP candidates.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by FrancoLambert View Post
    Yeah, Mike Pence is the gold standard for VP candidates.
    3) What has Joe done for the good of the Black community?
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    Someone is off their TDS meds.
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by tom444 View Post
    thats a big crowd depicted in the picture. I bet 45 is proud of it.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Use your brain? How novel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    Speaking of using your brain... I love how they are still allowing alcohol and food to be sold, but technically, it can't be consumed as a person must unmask in order to consume it.

    Who says you're not allowed to unmask to eat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    Speaking of using your brain... I love how they are still allowing alcohol and food to be sold, but technically, it can't be consumed as a person must unmask in order to consume it.

    So if somebody wears a cloth mask to reduce the amount of airborne droplets they emit, but then grabs that mask by the cloth part of it to take it off and eat or drink, then they just contaminated their hands and everything they touch will spread some virus, until they wash their hands.

    While masks can prevent spread, people that arent going to bother and educate themselves on how to handle it and not cause further spread, nor use diligent hand hygiene and still respect distancing guidelines, will still spread the virus. Its not a matter of politics, but rather science. So a stupid Republican wearing a mask in Florida is going to spread as much virus as the stupid Democrat that wears a mask in Florida. It should still be less than if they aren't wearing a mask.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    So if somebody wears a cloth mask to reduce the amount of airborne droplets they emit, but then grabs that mask by the cloth part of it to take it off and eat or drink, then they just contaminated their hands and everything they touch will spread some virus, until they wash their hands.

    While masks can prevent spread, people that arent going to bother and educate themselves on how to handle it and not cause further spread, nor use diligent hand hygiene and still respect distancing guidelines, will still spread the virus. Its not a matter of politics, but rather science. So a stupid Republican wearing a mask in Florida is going to spread as much virus as the stupid Democrat that wears a mask in Florida. It should still be less than if they aren't wearing a mask.
    Anything less is more at this point. If people want to go back to work and school - wear a mask even if badly done.

    I can not wrap my head around the idea that we are willing to do active shooter drills in elementary schools and discuss bullet stopping backpacks for kindergartners but putting essentially an elastic bandanna over your mouth and nose is too far for many people to consider.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    Speaking of using your brain... I love how they are still allowing alcohol and food to be sold, but technically, it can't be consumed as a person must unmask in order to consume it.


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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Anything less is more at this point. If people want to go back to work and school - wear a mask even if badly done.

    I can not wrap my head around the idea that we are willing to do active shooter drills in elementary schools and discuss bullet stopping backpacks for kindergartners but putting essentially an elastic bandanna over your mouth and nose is too far for many people to consider.
    Why can you not wrap your head around it? Mathematically, an individual American high school can expect a mass shooting on average once every 8,000 years; for all schools it would be about once every 40,000 years.

    One out of every few million students is a crazed killer - not really out of line with what you would expect in society in general. Yet you would think it was everywhere, a critical problem out of control.

    People have no idea just how incredibly huge the country is, or what a million actually means. It has been figured out by some that if you make enough noise over individual events, people will have no idea whether it is rare or common, but will tend toward thinking it is far more common than it actually is. In terms of people's gut feeling about how "big" something is, there is no appreciable difference between one-in-a-million and one-in-a-hundred. But it is a very effective tool for persuasion.

    In that respect, the parallel between the outsized recations to both school shootings and the coronavirus makes a lot of sense. Although the conclusion is obvious: We don't really need active shooter drills.
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Anything less is more at this point. If people want to go back to work and school - wear a mask even if badly done.

    I can not wrap my head around the idea that we are willing to do active shooter drills in elementary schools and discuss bullet stopping backpacks for kindergartners but putting essentially an elastic bandanna over your mouth and nose is too far for many people to consider.
    I agree with this. I will happily wear a mask if I can go back to work. I don't believe the masks make a damn bit of difference, but if that's what it takes, I'll wear one.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    I agree with this. I will happily wear a mask if I can go back to work. I don't believe the masks make a damn bit of difference, but if that's what it takes, I'll wear one.
    Agreed. If more people had just had that attitude the last several months, we would be talking about putting this in the rearview instead of confronting it all over again.

    I think it is pretty darn telling that McConnell, Pence, Cruz, DeSantis, etc are all pushing masks big-time the last week or so. Previously none of them had or had even done the opposite. I strongly suspect that political leadership across the spectrum is getting briefings that are scaring the hell out of them.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    I agree with this. I will happily wear a mask if I can go back to work. I don't believe the masks make a damn bit of difference, but if that's what it takes, I'll wear one.
    Imagine?

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    I agree with this. I will happily wear a mask if I can go back to work. I don't believe the masks make a damn bit of difference, but if that's what it takes, I'll wear one.
    Yeah, I don't get the mask outrage either, just another political argument far removed from the real issue. If you want to require me to wear a mask to enter your store, then fine, whatever. (Even though the governor has no legal authority to do it, you still have the right to refuse service. You could require customers to wear shoes on their heads or leave if you wanted to.)

    The symbolism is pretty unmistakable, but if you have half a brain, you can see the mask itself is not the issue, it is just a microcosm of the bigger problem. People get distracted by that shit and look stupid, fighting a mostly useless argument anyway.
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Consumer confidence and spending are the keys to economic recovery. So mask refusal seem to cutting of your nose to spite your face.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Imagine?
    All the people?

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