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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Again, your position is that the FBI Director (who took office under Trump) is blatantly lying under oath to Congress? Because he is saying the exact opposite of everything you have posted. The entire basis of your position is that you have access to more insight and information than the head of the FBI regarding domestic terrorism? That is what you are asking us to believe?

    From: https://www.npr.org/2021/03/02/97253...capitol-attack

    "He said violent extremists with ties to right-wing militias and white supremacy were involved in the violence, and are facing federal charges for their alleged roles.
    So far, more than 300 people have been charged in connection with the insurrection. They include members of the Oath Keepers paramilitary group and the Proud Boys."

    ""We have not to date seen any evidence of anarchist violent extremists or people subscribing to antifa in connection with the sixth," he said. That doesn't mean we're not looking, and we'll continue to look, but at the moment we have not seen that.""

    And from: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/n...2-62fd7019f291

    Wray again: "“The problem of domestic terrorism has been metastasizing across the country for a long time now, and it’s not going away any time soon,” Wray said. “We viewed it as such a critical threat that back in June 2019 we elevated racially and ethnically motivated violent extremism to our highest threat priority, on the same level as ISIS and homegrown violent extremists.”

    Wray said racially motivated violent extremism, specifically violent white supremacy, is the biggest chunk of the FBI’s domestic terrorism case portfolio. He also said white supremacists are responsible for the most lethal attacks over the last decade."

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Again, your position is that the FBI Director (who took office under Trump) is blatantly lying under oath to Congress? Because he is saying the exact opposite of everything you have posted. The entire basis of your position is that you have access to more insight and information than the head of the FBI regarding domestic terrorism? That is what you are asking us to believe?

    From: https://www.npr.org/2021/03/02/97253...capitol-attack

    "He said violent extremists with ties to right-wing militias and white supremacy were involved in the violence, and are facing federal charges for their alleged roles.
    So far, more than 300 people have been charged in connection with the insurrection. They include members of the Oath Keepers paramilitary group and the Proud Boys."

    ""We have not to date seen any evidence of anarchist violent extremists or people subscribing to antifa in connection with the sixth," he said. That doesn't mean we're not looking, and we'll continue to look, but at the moment we have not seen that.""

    And from: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/n...2-62fd7019f291

    Wray again: "“The problem of domestic terrorism has been metastasizing across the country for a long time now, and it’s not going away any time soon,” Wray said. “We viewed it as such a critical threat that back in June 2019 we elevated racially and ethnically motivated violent extremism to our highest threat priority, on the same level as ISIS and homegrown violent extremists.”

    Wray said racially motivated violent extremism, specifically violent white supremacy, is the biggest chunk of the FBI’s domestic terrorism case portfolio. He also said white supremacists are responsible for the most lethal attacks over the last decade."
    My position is that the FBI director is a stooge who is participating in partisan political theater, and that you are a hapless dupe.

    The simplest explanation is usually the right one, and what I just said is sure a hell of a lot more likely than these elaborate conspiracy theories about white supremacist groups scheming all their schemes and plotting all of these dastardly plots that, for some strange reason, never materialize. It makes a neat story, but for all your fire and brimstone, what you've got at the end of the day is the word of one guy who hates Trump and was playing to an audience.

    Meanwhile, the leftist hate groups commit violence and mayhem in plain sight for a full year, and oh well, no biggie. We're all just imagining it because we're crazy. What a joke.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    My position is that the FBI director is a stooge who is participating in partisan political theater, and that you are a hapless dupe.

    The simplest explanation is usually the right one, and what I just said is sure a hell of a lot more likely than these elaborate conspiracy theories about white supremacist groups scheming all their schemes and plotting all of these dastardly plots that, for some strange reason, never materialize. It makes a neat story, but for all your fire and brimstone, what you've got at the end of the day is the word of one guy who hates Trump and was playing to an audience.

    Meanwhile, the leftist hate groups commit violence and mayhem in plain sight for a full year, and oh well, no biggie. We're all just imagining it because we're crazy. What a joke.

    I've said it before, and it's true now more than ever: You are in a cult. You may not even realize it, but that's the hard truth. But damn, are you committed to it.
    So in order for what you are saying to be true, this is the sequence of events?

    Trump fires Comey for being a partisan hack.
    Trump hires Wray.
    But Wray was secretly MORE of a parisan hack than Comey.
    Wray lies under oath to Congress as part of the Deep State ploy to exaggerate the threat of white hate groups in order to advance the Deep State/Shadow Left's play for permanent one party rule.

    I guess if wasn't a low IQ liberal cult member, I would totally see how that wasn't crazy pants.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    So in order for what you are saying to be true, this is the sequence of events?

    Trump fires Comey for being a partisan hack.
    Trump hires Wray.
    But Wray was secretly MORE of a parisan hack than Comey.
    Wray lies under oath to Congress as part of the Deep State ploy to exaggerate the threat of white hate groups in order to advance the Deep State/Shadow Left's play for permanent one party rule.

    I guess if wasn't a low IQ liberal cult member, I would totally see how that wasn't crazy pants.
    Yes, check out this totally radical and delusional theory:

    They were both partisan hacks. Many high-ranking bureaucrats are partisan hacks.

    Wray knows what his bosses want to hear, so he tells them that. The end.

    See how simple that is? Doesn't even require anyone lying to Congress. Just being dramatic and playing up certain angles as more important than they really are. You ought to be very familiar with this; you do it all the time, it's like your bread and butter. Like, even just the way you repeatedly hammer on "Lying To Congress" (caps intentional), as if by saying it enough, it will be so shocking that you can wrestle the narrative over to the other side being crazy and they have the burden of proving that they are not. It's a real nice try, but just more weasel words. And Wray is still just a partisan hack playing in partisan political theater.

    Now let's think about why a guy like Wray would be inclined to suck up to the Democrats and their single unifying theory that the white supremacist boogeyman is behind everything. Well, does he like being FBI director, or not? If so, it's not a great idea to publicly say that your boss is full of shit, and basically the same to the people running the hearings. Democrats want people to think that right-wing extremists are the biggest threat in the world, so they got a guy to say that right-wing extremists are the biggest threat. Very straightforward.

    It's certainly way more rational than your crackpot conspiracy theories about actual white supremacists running around everywhere. A real red-alert threat, always just an inch away from destroying us all, but miraculously we never even get a whiff of it. Rats, foiled again, huh?

    Now why would the left want to say such a thing, and insist on pushing it in our faces, if it wasn't the truth? Ah, that's right, they've been saying for a long time that conservative ideas are dishonorable - now they want to say they are dangerous. Make it official, just lump it all in with white supremacists, and you can go after anyone you want who is not in compliance with liberal doctrine. I mean, you don't even have to do anything legally or officially to get the effect that you want. If the grandstanding is enough to fire up the cancel culture liberal hate mob, then you've already succeeded in ostracizing your opponents and making them more hesitant to speak up about anything. Political theater.

    It is easy to understand the appeal of a cult that tells you that you are smarter than everyone else, and that all the problems in the world are just because all the stupids won't listen to you. That if you fail, it's ok because it's someone else's fault, and they deserve to pay. That jealousy and spite are ok, and that it's fine to hate people and want revenge on them. That you're justified in doing almost anything in order to get what you want. That you are special and the world owes you something. An appeal to all of your most base desires, and all that's demanded in return is adherence. As long as there are enough members who are all in it together, they have a safe space and they will go to extreme lengths to defend it - even if it means twisting logic and standing reality on its head. You defend your safe space more viciously than almost anyone I have seen. But then, liberals aren't exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer.
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Yes, check out this totally radical and delusional theory:

    They were both partisan hacks. Many high-ranking bureaucrats are partisan hacks.

    Wray knows what his bosses want to hear, so he tells them that. The end.

    See how simple that is? Doesn't even require anyone lying to Congress. Just being dramatic and playing up certain angles as more important than they really are. You ought to be very familiar with this; you do it all the time, it's like your bread and butter. Like, even just the way you repeatedly hammer on "Lying To Congress" (caps intentional), as if by saying it enough, it will be so shocking that you can wrestle the narrative over to the other side being crazy and they have the burden of proving that they are not. It's a real nice try, but just more weasel words. And Wray is still just a partisan hack playing in partisan political theater.

    Now let's think about why a guy like Wray would be inclined to suck up to the Democrats and their single unifying theory that the white supremacist boogeyman is behind everything. Well, does he like being FBI director, or not? If so, it's not a great idea to publicly say that your boss is full of shit, and basically the same to the people running the hearings. Democrats want people to think that right-wing extremists are the biggest threat in the world, so they got a guy to say that right-wing extremists are the biggest threat. Very straightforward.

    It's certainly way more rational than your crackpot conspiracy theories about actual white supremacists running around everywhere. A real red-alert threat, always just an inch away from destroying us all, but miraculously we never even get a whiff of it. Rats, foiled again, huh?

    Now why would the left want to say such a thing, and insist on pushing it in our faces, if it wasn't the truth? Ah, that's right, they've been saying for a long time that conservative ideas are dishonorable - now they want to say they are dangerous. Make it official, just lump it all in with white supremacists, and you can go after anyone you want who is not in compliance with liberal doctrine. I mean, you don't even have to do anything legally or officially to get the effect that you want. If the grandstanding is enough to fire up the cancel culture liberal hate mob, then you've already succeeded in ostracizing your opponents and making them more hesitant to speak up about anything. Political theater.

    It is easy to understand the appeal of a cult that tells you that you are smarter than everyone else, and that all the problems in the world are just because all the stupids won't listen to you. That if you fail, it's ok because it's someone else's fault, and they deserve to pay. That jealousy and spite are ok, and that it's fine to hate people and want revenge on them. That you're justified in doing almost anything in order to get what you want. That you are special and the world owes you something. An appeal to all of your most base desires, and all that's demanded in return is adherence. As long as there are enough members who are all in it together, they have a safe space and they will go to extreme lengths to defend it - even if it means twisting logic and standing reality on its head. You defend your safe space more viciously than almost anyone I have seen. But then, liberals aren't exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer.
    So how do you explain that Wray and the FBI were saying all this left wing partisan hackery while they were working under a right wing majority from 2017-2020? Did they want to displease Congress and the President then? Was Wray not under threat of being fired then? But now they are eager to please that they are willing to just make up facts?

    Again...I am clearly too stupid to understand the 4D chess logic that is operating right in front of me....

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    So how do you explain that Wray and the FBI were saying all this left wing partisan hackery while they were working under a right wing majority from 2017-2020? Did they want to displease Congress and the President then? Was Wray not under threat of being fired then? But now they are eager to please that they are willing to just make up facts?

    Again...I am clearly too stupid to understand the 4D chess logic that is operating right in front of me....
    Don't worry, you're not too stupid to understand 4D chess logic. You're just so committed to your cult that you are too stupid even to see reality.

    Maybe stupid isn't the right word. What's your real IQ - well, it doesn't matter whether it's 101 or 120 or 160. If you're a liberal, it all comes out looking like 50.

    Wray is on the liberals' side playing liberal political theater. I won't pretend to know how he got there, other than maybe he didn't look that way at first. Maybe as a compromise by Trump (another outrageous conspiracy theory, I know). From what I recall, he was on thin ice for a lot of that time.

    Anyway, enough of playing these stupid games where the burden is on everyone else to disprove your crazy conspiracy theories. How about YOU explain why the real world looks exactly the opposite of what you and Wray are describing?

    I mean, this is the number one threat to our country, there should be evidence of it all over the place, right? Shouldn't that mean there would be hundreds, probably thousands of violent incidents happening all over the country? I mean, the leftist hate mobs carried out at least that many attacks, and we're told they're no higher than #2, right? So where is everybody?

    No, really, it's the number one threat to the country. Surely we would all be aware it was a huge problem without needing anyone to tell us. After all, we are acutely aware of all this other violence and mayhem that is apparently just minor little things. Where is everybody?

    Oh, that's right, they're just your imaginary friends in your imaginary fantasyland. I forgot to include that about your cult. They even have their own angels and their own devils. They'll tell you they're lurking right there, just over that next hill. They will even point.
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    So more lies, liberal fantasies, and inventions of our shared safe spaces?

    https://www.csis.org/analysis/escala...-united-states

    "In 2019, domestic extremists killed at least 42 people in the United States in 17 separate incidents. This number makes 2019 the sixth deadliest year on record for domestic extremist-related killings since 1970" - https://www.adl.org/media/14107/download


    It is a fairly extraordinary claim that law enforcement from the local to the federal level as well as the Republican controlled Senate (in 2019-20) all agreed that this was a significant issue...but they were all lying?


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    Imagine left wing domestic terrorists rioting and burning for 8 months straight, but is somehow not being reported by the main stream media. Thats basically whats happening in Portland.



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    Imagine left wing domestic terrorists rioting and burning for 8 months straight, but is somehow not being reported by the main stream media. Thats basically whats happening in Portland.

    Check out “unmasked” by Andy Ngo. Pretty eye opening what goes on and shows how organized, violent and manipulative Antifa is. Especially for just an “idea” lol.Is almost comical how media ranted and raved about capital riots and nothing about these ongoing events with Antifa. Not to mention the lack of leadership from these city leaders and the lack of concern for citizens living or working in the areas Antifa took over.

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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    [QUOTE=steelreserve;764265]Yes, check out this totally radical and delusional theory:

    They were both partisan hacks. Many high-ranking bureaucrats are partisan hacks.


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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    So more lies, liberal fantasies, and inventions of our shared safe spaces?

    https://www.csis.org/analysis/escala...-united-states

    "In 2019, domestic extremists killed at least 42 people in the United States in 17 separate incidents. This number makes 2019 the sixth deadliest year on record for domestic extremist-related killings since 1970" - https://www.adl.org/media/14107/download


    It is a fairly extraordinary claim that law enforcement from the local to the federal level as well as the Republican controlled Senate (in 2019-20) all agreed that this was a significant issue...but they were all lying?

    lol, the Anti-Defamation League. Aren't you the one always railing against people for using biased sources with no credibility?

    It would seem that their assessment of the grave and rising threat of white nationalism is based mainly on one crazy person carrying out a mass shooting at a Wal-Mart. Occasionally, there is another crazy person who carries out another mass shooting, and that ends up being the biggest incident of the year. Who knows whether it will be a right-wing extremist or some other kind of crazy person. Roll the dice.

    I would say that neither of those indicates anything, because overall, mass shootings are exceedingly rare and an infinitesimally small threat. About the only pattern is that nearly all of them are carried out by crazy people. In that respect, I'm surprised it's not 90% liberals, but give them time.

    Over and over, you keep saying that I'm accusing people of lying. Stop saying that. It's like your new go-to thing this week, any time someone doesn't agree with your bullshit, it's because they're "accusing someone of lying." No, they're just full of shit. Learn the difference. Oh wait, you do know the difference, it's just more of your pathetic weasel words again, trying to blow everything up into some kind of wild accusation instead of just being wrong. You sure you're ok?
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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?

    Good to know the Anti-Defamation League is now a nest of fake news and liberal bias.

    The FBI says that "A" is a major law enforcement issue. You say it isn't "A" and anyone who makes that claim is living in a wholely invented fantasy world.

    Where I come from that's calling someone a liar.

    Again, the plain truth is that for your version to be both true and correct, multiple law enforcement agencies ranging from local yokel PD to the FBI to DHS have to have all collectively agreed on the same story/lie and stuck to it across both a GOP and Democratic administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Good to know the Anti-Defamation League is now a nest of fake news and liberal bias.

    The FBI says that "A" is a major law enforcement issue. You say it isn't "A" and anyone who makes that claim is living in a wholely invented fantasy world.

    Where I come from that's calling someone a liar.

    Again, the plain truth is that for your version to be both true and correct, multiple law enforcement agencies ranging from local yokel PD to the FBI to DHS have to have all collectively agreed on the same story/lie and stuck to it across both a GOP and Democratic administration.
    Well, wake me up when this becomes a major issue, or even a noticeable one. Until then, it's just another dumb shouting point for dumb liberals to make noise about, with their minds made up and their heels dug in.

    It really is impressive just how committed you and others are to believing in this alternate version of reality, where everything sucks, and boogeyman are real, and completely pedestrian things are cause for alarm and outrage. It just sounds exhausting.
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    https://youtu.be/YqktEsc6JYc

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    My position is that the FBI director is a stooge who is participating in partisan political theater, and that you are a hapless dupe.

    The simplest explanation is usually the right one, and what I just said is sure a hell of a lot more likely than these elaborate conspiracy theories about white supremacist groups scheming all their schemes and plotting all of these dastardly plots that, for some strange reason, never materialize. It makes a neat story, but for all your fire and brimstone, what you've got at the end of the day is the word of one guy who hates Trump and was playing to an audience.

    Meanwhile, the leftist hate groups commit violence and mayhem in plain sight for a full year, and oh well, no biggie. We're all just imagining it because we're crazy. What a joke.

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    The Hunter Biden Bill.


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    Re: What has happened to the Democratic party?





    Give a lib a fish--he eats for a day

    Teach a lib to fish--he is back the next day asking for more free fish.

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