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Tom, what does Biden bring to the table that is worthy of a vote in November?Originally Posted by tom444
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And meanwhile Biden is being asked questions by "undecided" voters that are Democratic plants. The woman that asked the question about her "transgender" 8 year old daughter is married to a prominent Democrat.
Joe is saying it's OKAY for an 8 year old to pick their gender. Seriously is your hatred of Trump this bad that you would openly vote for a guy that thinks an 8 year old can pick whether they are a boy or girl? 30 years ago that woman would have had her children taken from her for child abuse and been arrested. Will you be okay when a transgender girl with a dick is getting changed in the locker room with your 14 year old daughter because Joe and his sick Democratic friends think it's okay?
Just watch Biden's answer to that woman's question. He hits the trifecta of pandering. He supports Transgenders, blacks and gays all in one answer. He rambled on about how in around 1960 he saw two black men kiss and his father said, "that's love" all while getting an application at an "African American" pool to work as a lifeguard, then said hey it's okay to let your 8 year old lop his dick off if he thinks he's a girl.
And people say Trump lies... when Joe's rambling were complete fabrication. Do you really think his Catholic father in 1960ish time frame was okay with two men kissing in public? I didn't know African American's had black only pools in Delaware. What complete and utter bullshit his whole answer was. And the whole time the "moderator" George Clintonopolis just sat there and didn't say a word. But over at the Trump town hall Savannah Guthrie was interrupting Trump's answers and inserting herself into everything instead of just moderating the questions from the VOTERS not herself. And of course some people here lapped that up as "She got Trump".
And finally the fact that he didn't call this woman out for allowing an 8 year old just shows where he stands. He's bought and pandered for and a coward.
And for the record I have nothing against transgender ADULTS. If you want to be the other sex after puberty and adulthood go for it (it apparently is working for Tom444) but to do this to a child is disgusting. There is a reason an 8 year old isn't allowed to drive, buy cigarettes, buy beer, vote or do a lot of things an adult can do. Their brains aren't developed and allowing them to live like this is horrifying.
Here's the whole video.
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Well said!
Gender is not the same as sex. Sex is not the same as gender. No one is chopping body parts of an 8 year old; despite what the internet, tv, or politicos tell you.
Seriously? I don't give a crap what you define gender or sex as. You have no problem with an 8 year old with male genitalia living as a girl? If we were standing in the same room you would have no problem looking me in the eye and saying, "Sure this is normal and this woman is a great parent."
Gender is not the same as sex. Sex is not the same as gender. No one is chopping body parts of an 8 year old; despite what the internet, tv, or politicos tell you.
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Since you believe in science. How many genders are there?
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Sure. What's the problem? If you talk with transgendered and transsexual people it is pretty obvious that forced conformity is far worse than whatever challenges a child may face as being different. I don't get the hang-up in genitalia. If you are concerned with someone sharing a locker room or a bath room with someone they are sexually attracted to; that already happens. In most cases the trans person is not going to be attracted to other members of their same gender. But guaranteed that there is already people of the same gender attracted to other people in their locker room. That's been working out fine. So what's the big deal?
If you go outside of America and Western Europe; very few other cultures limit gender to two options that directly align with what is between your legs. So why assume we go it right?
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Depends on how you culturally define them. Biological sex is not the same as gender. There are two biological sexes. There are as many genders as a given culture allows. Most non-western cultures have at least 3 and many have over 5. It is extremely common for traditional cultures to recognize, acknowledge, and encourage a triad of genders (men, women, and mixed). Often people in the third gender category are considered extremely powerful and necessary to balance things in a society.
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The answer is 2
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<-- Look over here. Even this website defines your Gender as either Male or Female (try changing it to something else, you cannot).
Spare me the argument on gender vs sex. I just was at the Dentist filling out paper work and the question about gender was M or F. Because that's it. You can make up anything you want but in the end there are two.
But getting back to the original woman and her planted question. Name me ONE right Trump has taken away from Transgender people since 2017 when he took office? Just one.
I've traveled all over Western Europe for work (Sweden, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Czech Republic, Norway, Great Britain, Scotland and more). This simply is not true. Have you ever been to Europe? I'm not talking vacation I'm talking living and working in these cultures you are talking about. And if you move towards Eastern Europe or the Middle East (I've also worked in Turkey) this is DEFINITELY not the norm and even illegal in some countries.
And again I already said I don't care what you do as an adult but when you allow an 8 year old to live like this I view it as child abuse.
Spare me the argument on gender vs sex. I just was at the Dentist filling out paper work and the question about gender was M or F. Because that's it. You can make up anything you want but in the end there are two.
But getting back to the original woman and her planted question. Name me ONE right Trump has taken away from Transgender people since 2017 when he took office? Just one.
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What fucking business is it of yours sweetie pie?
So if the Hunter Biden allegations were proven to be 100% true tomorrow and Joe Biden profited off his VP spot would you still vote for him?
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He would follow along like a good little sheep.
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"No, you see, I have gone through years and years of mental gymnastics in order to construct my fantasy world, so here is my retarded term paper about why common sense is ignorant and outdated. Psssht! You still think there's such a thing as common sense. Backwards peon! What do you spend your whole day doing, banging rocks together? You must also think it's the 1950s, like a white supremacist. Everyone except liberal Democrats in the last 10 years was a white supremacist. Really, we're not the ones who are out of our minds - you are!"
Trust me, he's not voting for Biden. The only president he gets to vote for is student council president.
Maybe if you're lucky, you'll get another picture of one of his role models.
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I mean just cause you feel certain about something; doesn't mean you are right about it. I guess I just got indoctrinated by radical leftists while I fucked off and got a degree in this very thing. Gender definitions and laws proscribing sexuality are wrapped up in a ton of things besides biological sex - mostly to do with religion and determinations of legitimate offspring for the transference of wealth. I have attempted to avoid bringing any of that into this because that gets into difficult issues where different faiths and how to live those faiths intersect.
There are two biological sexes. In American english we typically refer to those as "gender". That does not mean that they are the same. For instance almost all Native American cultures recognize people that were of "two spirits" - meaning a third "mixed" gender. In Oman, prior to the adoption of Islam as a state religion (meaning it influences legal codes), there were 3 genders. In India, there are 3 genders (sometimes more) and the third gender is typically legally recognized and acknowledge by the government.
But again, what do I know? Surely nothing. I mean I read it in books, learned it from a University, and talked with people living different experiences. All known sources of radical extreme viewpoints. Better check and see what YouTube has to say on the issue.
Notice, that I also never indicated that anyone had to change how they thought or reacted to the issue. Nor did I attempt to tie it to casting votes in any manner. All I attempted to do was to point out that some of what people seem to express concern/fear/anxiety about is maybe something that they don't have to be afraid of? But, many seem to like being afraid of anything different or outside their experience.
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Trump International Hotel Washington DC
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So your a science denier. The correct answer is 2, not 53.
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Easiest way to put all this:
Biological sex: your specific naughty bits. There are only two of these. This is the only part of this entire conversation that has anything to do with "science".
Gender: how you want to live in society. How you wish to dress, talk, walk, act, etc. There are as many of these as a given society wishes to recognize. Typically your biological sex and gender match up, but for a measurable percentage of folks they don't align.
Sexuality: this is what you want to do with your naughty bits and who you want to do it with. There are a great # of sexual orientations out there. I mean, you've looked for porn right?
Typical leftist, change the subject, not answer and blame some other equivalent. Trump has that hotel in DC BEFORE he ran.Oh no, someone profited from being president or vice president or a congressman. What will we do?
Trump International Hotel Washington DC
So if Hunter was ILLEGALLY selling his father's access that's not a bridge too far.
Leftists sure love that word, "afraid." You don't agree with my bullshit, so you must be afraid. Uh, ok. Still haven't figured out that fear is not the same thing as thinking someone is full of shit.
I don't think anyone doubts that people may "feel" differently from their biological sex, or act that way. But ultimately, scientifically (you know, science!) what you have is a biological male attempting to change his phenotype, or the female equivalent of that.
No one is saying there is anything "wrong" with being an effeminate man, or a masculine woman, or anything in between. But when you ask - no, demand - that everyone stand language and science and common sense on their heads in order to accommodate your world view, people don't like that. Especially when the manner in which you do so is through toxic, hostile condescension. So - expect pushback.
Sadly, I think the massive push by the left to mainstream or even glorify transgender status leads a lot of people to go that route for all the wrong reasons - that is, somewhat unstable people who are looking for attention or acceptance, and making decisions that they later regret. While there were transgender people long before the current era, it was exceedingly rare compared to the social "trend" it has been made into now, and I think the fallout from that is an unmitigated disaster.
As for transgender 8-year-olds ... well, you know what they say. Just like a vegan cat, you know who's really calling the shots.
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You do realize that being trans does not necessarily mean you will have, have had, or are even seeking surgical options to change your biological sex? You also, I mean you clearly are super well informed on this to hold such definitive and inviolable opinions, know that in order to even schedule surgical options, trans patients have to go through a lengthy psychological evaluation process and live as their preferred gender and sex for year(s) prior to any reputable surgeon agreeing to engage in medical/surgical treatment. Surely, you know all that. You are typically so informed.
Oh no, there are transgender people and Biden MIGHT have had something to do with his son's business dealings according to some Russian BS propaganda. Reelect Trump.
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It's NOT Russian propaganda. It was found on a HIS laptop in Delaware can we please stop the stupid narrative that everything bad that happens it he Russian's fault?
In fact, I knew all of that. Amazingly, many people still make decisions that they regret. Even the ones that do not go all the way through with surgery. But man, are you informed. You're the only one. We should all listen to you.
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Weird how you make arguments that no one is making. I've never said that people do not make decisions that they regret. But if an individual wants to live a few weeks, months, or years as a one gender or the other and then decides that wasn't the right decision for them...what's the harm? Like, literally, how does that impact you in any way? You constantly advocate for the rights of the individual over everything and anything else, but you are going to draw the line in the sand on trans? Why? Because you can't wrap your head around gender and biology not being the exact same things?
I didn't say that it was bad for someone to do that, or that there is no difference between biological sex and gender, the way that you think and act. (I mean, never mind that I said EXACTLY that when I said that biological males can be effeminate or women can be masculine. Nope - horrible backwards bigot, everyone except Mojouw is horribly misinformed!)
Where I do draw the line is at people trying to use biology and mental perception of gender interchangeably, or gender in place of biology. For example, biological men in women's sports. Or, insisting that a biological male who acts as a female, IS a female, and then forcing everyone else to say it and announce their allegiance to it. If I'm holding up four fingers, but The Party says it's five, how many fingers?
Liberals LOVE messing with the language and twisting words toward their own goals. Forcing people away from benign everyday terms - making the language itself into a tool to force compliance. Use the innocent words that have always been used with no ill intention? Nope, that's bigotry now - say this new word, you have to actively participate. We demand ACTIVE compliance. That should be condemned totally.
Or, where I draw the line is that the left's virtue signaling pushes people toward this "trans lifestyle" who really would not be doing that otherwise. And that is not always the greatest idea for people who are already mentally vulnerable or unsure of themselves; it certainly does not make life any easier in most cases.
As usual, the left goes around patting themselves on the back for their tolerance and open-mindedness, completely oblivious to the fact that their idea that was well-intentioned in theory has turned into a complete dumpster fire in real life. Everyone cas see it, but you have talked yourself out of it (again). Just like a thousand other liberal causes, once you are committed, you can't back down, because admitting you were wrong or your idea didn't work would be far too devastating. Yet people can still see that.
I really wonder what it must be like to have talked oneself into such a pretense of moral superiority - only for everyone who has two eyes and ears to be able to see that no, that's not how the world works at all. Over, and over, and over, and over. Just tell yourself that can't wrap their heads around it. That must be it.
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Again, you've created a series of benchmarks and perspectives that no one else but you is arguing for. There are a variety of issues to be worked out in sports and that process will play itself out. If bio Steve wants to present and be addressed as gendered Susan; what is the problem? Are we going to go into the bathroom thing? Are we really all that worked up about where someone pees?
I pointed out that gender and biological sex are different. Others claimed that they are not. I countered that, yes, they are. Then you flew off the handle with some anti-left rant that I suppose made you feel good but really didn't address anything that was under discussion.If you agree, which you just claimed to, that sex, gender, and sexual orientation are all different and not necessarily overlapping things...exactly what about what I actually said is freaking you out? Again, the words I actually typed. Not the political ideologies or lectures that you assume are behind them.
The arguments about the "trans lifestyle" that you are making are the same ones that I heard all my life about the "homosexual agenda". Yet I do not know a single person who came out as gay and then was like "Oops. That was just me being influenced by the media and political messaging!". Did it happen? No idea. Just feel like we might have heard about all these confused hetero folks who were pushed into a lifestyle that wasn't for them. I have a hard time believing, again anything is possible, that there are all these folks out there living in a way that adds roadblocks, challenges, and barrier to their everyday life because they were enticed by virtue signalling.
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