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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

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    Do the defense and team a favor and fire butler before TC and he can take Bud with him since he likes him so much.
    I want that Butler be fired since the AFC title game in 2016...No good reason that Butler is still our DC in 2019.

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

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    I want that Butler be fired since the AFC title game in 2016...No good reason that Butler is still our DC in 2019.

    I don't even think he is a good LB coach.

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    So is he playing outside? They did just select another ILB after him and they need edge rushers

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    This exactly highlights the no. 1 problem with this team, their tendency to stubbornly stick with what isn't working while simultaneously denying when there is a problem. Not to mention you depth at the position as well

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

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    So is he playing outside? They did just select another ILB after him and they need edge rushers

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    This exactly highlights the no. 1 problem with this team, their tendency to stubbornly stick with what isn't working while simultaneously denying when there is a problem. Not to mention you depth at the position as well
    I agree and they are not just stubborn about the players .... Just look at the coaching staff ...


    It's going to be the 5th year for Butler as DC even if this job is way too big for him and we kept Todd Haley for 6 years (and Haley only kept his job for 8 games with the Browns after)

    And I do not understand why the steelers are loyal to Danny Smith even if we have one of the worst field positions in the NFL year after year.The steelers have their strength, but their stubbornness is very frustrating sometimes!

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Pittsburgh Steelers: Sutton Smith, DE/OLB, Northern Illinois B+ Grade

    Based on his production and 3-cone time, Sutton Smith would be a first-round prospect. Unfortunately, he's extremely undersized. He's just 6-0, 233, so it's difficult to envision where he'll fit in as a pro. However, I could see him being a third-down specialist, and I think this is the correct time to select him; I had him slotted two picks earlier in my mock.

    http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftgrades6.php

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    I am still in the learning phase on this guy, but the more I learn the more I like him. I really hope his game translates to the NFL. A lot to root for.

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    I'm excited to see these young fast linebackers.
    1. Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia 2. Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia 3. Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan 3. ​Renardo Green, CB, FSU 4. Mo Kamara, OLB, Colorado State 6. Logan Lee, DT, Iowa 6.Khristian Boyd, NT, Northern Iowa

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Kevin Colbert Confirms Steelers Viewing Sutton Smith At Outside Linebacker

    By Matthew Marczi
    Posted on May 1, 2019

    There wasn’t a lot of clarity about why the Pittsburgh Steelers drafted Northern Illinois defensive end Sutton Smith in the sixth round of the 2019 NFL Draft. A vastly undersized player at his position, he would even be on the small side to convert to outside linebacker in a 3-4 system such as the Steelers.

    So it wasn’t obvious what position he would play, with defensive coordinator Keith Butler talking about the possibility of him being able to play both outside and inside, and how they got a look at him doing inside linebacker drills during the Senior Bowl week.

    to read rest of article:

    https://steelersdepot.com/2019/05/ke...de-linebacker/

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    I think this kid has a few rpms on Watt.

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    I shouldn't get so excited about this 6th round pick, but I feel like this guy could take on Kuhn-like properties....in my mind at least. I'm definitely on the Sutton Smith hype train....for now. Lol

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Reminds me of Tomlin’s love affair with Stevenson Sylvester. 😩
    Or was it Sylvester Stevenson? 🤔

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Yeah, he is an all hustle guy that had a couple blocked kicks on punt rush in college. I think that if he shows the ability to cover in the special team game, he will push Dirty Red off the roster.

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    Pittsburgh Steelers: Sutton Smith, DE/OLB, Northern Illinois B+ Grade

    Based on his production and 3-cone time, Sutton Smith would be a first-round prospect. Unfortunately, he's extremely undersized. He's just 6-0, 233, so it's difficult to envision where he'll fit in as a pro. However, I could see him being a third-down specialist, and I think this is the correct time to select him; I had him slotted two picks earlier in my mock.

    http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftgrades6.php
    So if he was one inch taller and 10 pounds heavier he'd be all-world? I love it when guys like Sutton prove the experts wrong!

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    So if he was one inch taller and 10 pounds heavier he'd be all-world? I love it when guys like Sutton prove the experts wrong!
    Nope, more like 2 inches taller and 20lbs heavier and this kind of stuff wont happen to him. https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1088247982938558464?lang=en
    https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status...558464?lang=en

    I don't know how to post a tweet, but its a video of him getting rag dolled at the Senior Bowl by an O lineman.

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Nope, more like 2 inches taller and 20lbs heavier and this kind of stuff wont happen to him. https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1088247982938558464?lang=en
    https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status...558464?lang=en

    I don't know how to post a tweet, but its a video of him getting rag dolled at the Senior Bowl by an O lineman.
    Looked like a good holding call in a real game, no?

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Looked like a good holding call in a real game, no?
    I wouldn't call it. OT had his right hand inside Smiths frame and on his chest...when Smith spins, the OT just throws him to the ground. Either way...there are at least 2 more reps on video where Smith just got manhandled. One he was trying to run the arc and the OT just two-handed pushed him into the turf.

    Smith isn't going to be effective on the edge unless he hits the gym like Deebo. He needs to run around the OT and that isn't a great thing in the NFL. On a RB or TE he is fine.

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    I wouldn't call it. OT had his right hand inside Smiths frame and on his chest...when Smith spins, the OT just throws him to the ground. Either way...there are at least 2 more reps on video where Smith just got manhandled. One he was trying to run the arc and the OT just two-handed pushed him into the turf.

    Smith isn't going to be effective on the edge unless he hits the gym like Deebo. He needs to run around the OT and that isn't a great thing in the NFL. On a RB or TE he is fine.
    hopefully he won't be on the edge. Seems like they are going for speed at every position hoping one of these guys will slip through

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    hopefully he won't be on the edge. Seems like they are going for speed at every position hoping one of these guys will slip through
    I rewatched his Combine workout. Daniel Jeremiah said " he shows some suddenness and burst out of his stance, doesn't he". If only he said glide.

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

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    I wouldn't call it. OT had his right hand inside Smiths frame and on his chest...when Smith spins, the OT just throws him to the ground. Either way...there are at least 2 more reps on video where Smith just got manhandled. One he was trying to run the arc and the OT just two-handed pushed him into the turf.

    Smith isn't going to be effective on the edge unless he hits the gym like Deebo. He needs to run around the OT and that isn't a great thing in the NFL. On a RB or TE he is fine.
    At only 233lbs he is going to get manhandled by OTs. The combine bench press is basically him holding a 10lb weight. With Bud, Watt, Ola, Chick, and Adams currently under contract I don't think Smith sees the field at OLB in 2019. Maybe in obvious pass rush situations but I think he is headed to special teams first until he gets 'bigger/stronger' or injury forces him on the field. Even if he moves inside he's only blitzing Hilton style, don't you think?

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    This is probably the pick I'm most intrigued by. Imo, if you give this guy 20 lbs and 2 inches he's a 1st rd pick. His tape really jumps out at you. He absolutely dominated his competition. I realize it was mostly MAC competition, but his tape and the instincs he shows is impressive.

    I do not forsee him translating that production against NFL OTs. I doubt anyone does. I believe eventually he will slide inside. However, it won't be the first time he's switched positions. He was recruited to NIU as a RB. I think he's capable of making the transition. I see a lot of "dog" in this one. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say we got 2 ILBs for the future in this draft.

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    At only 233lbs he is going to get manhandled by OTs. The combine bench press is basically him holding a 10lb weight. With Bud, Watt, Ola, Chick, and Adams currently under contract I don't think Smith sees the field at OLB in 2019. Maybe in obvious pass rush situations but I think he is headed to special teams first until he gets 'bigger/stronger' or injury forces him on the field. Even if he moves inside he's only blitzing Hilton style, don't you think?
    Is that how you think Bench Press works? That your body weight is free? Lol

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    At only 233lbs he is going to get manhandled by OTs. The combine bench press is basically him holding a 10lb weight. With Bud, Watt, Ola, Chick, and Adams currently under contract I don't think Smith sees the field at OLB in 2019. Maybe in obvious pass rush situations but I think he is headed to special teams first until he gets 'bigger/stronger' or injury forces him on the field. Even if he moves inside he's only blitzing Hilton style, don't you think?
    I think he beats Adams out for the 53 based on special teams prowess. Will have to see, but I think he has a quick first step and might give some RT's in the league a challenge, but think the #5 OLB on the roster isn't going to be a large impact in the pass rush.

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by stillers4me View Post
    That defensive pre snap look is a 4-5-2. Keep the film rolling.

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    I think he beats Adams out for the 53 based on special teams prowess. Will have to see, but I think he has a quick first step and might give some RT's in the league a challenge, but think the #5 OLB on the roster isn't going to be a large impact in the pass rush.
    Keion Adams is the Senquez of the OLB group.
    That’s how I see Smith too. Unless he’s lined up specifically to hit a hole on a blitz, he’s not going to fight his way to the QB. Not in 2019. He’s a ST until he can elevate his game. Hopefully sooner than later.
    Ola is a key ingredient in the OLB rotation this year. I’m really hoping he can stay healthy and get on the field. He’s the guy I’ll be watching this preseason.
    Chickillo is the only battle tested backup on this roster and got paid because of it. I think he is now as good as he’s going to get.
    Bud is better than guys on here give him credit for. After being severely limited by injury 2-3 seasons ago he has improved each year since. If you guys could understand his job is not as a pass rusher blitzburgh OLB style. Bud has a different role from that and does his job well. I still think this is most likely his last year if only because I hope Ola can do it as well and cheaper.
    TJ is the star of the room and he is only getting better.

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Keion Adams is the Senquez of the OLB group.
    That’s how I see Smith too. Unless he’s lined up specifically to hit a hole on a blitz, he’s not going to fight his way to the QB. Not in 2019. He’s a ST until he can elevate his game. Hopefully sooner than later.
    Ola is a key ingredient in the OLB rotation this year. I’m really hoping he can stay healthy and get on the field. He’s the guy I’ll be watching this preseason.
    Chickillo is the only battle tested backup on this roster and got paid because of it. I think he is now as good as he’s going to get.
    Bud is better than guys on here give him credit for. After being severely limited by injury 2-3 seasons ago he has improved each year since. If you guys could understand his job is not as a pass rusher blitzburgh OLB style. Bud has a different role from that and does his job well. I still think this is most likely his last year if only because I hope Ola can do it as well and cheaper.
    TJ is the star of the room and he is only getting better.
    I think Senquez was going to be a solid slot CB, but the Lisfranc injury and others derailed his career before it got started. Adams has size, but doesn't have quickness off the line, where Smith has quickness and motor, but not the size to set the edge or counter inside if big OT's get their hands on him. I think he can be that pesky situational edge rusher who's speed can give some OT's problems or another backup ILB that is a core special teamer.

    Either way, I like Smith as a solid football player, with good speed and quickness that has a big motor. You really cant not-like any of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    That defensive pre snap look is a 4-5-2. Keep the film rolling.
    Its actually a 3-4, but Iowa is running double TE set, so the CB on the bottom of the screen just pinches in. The CB on the top of the screen is locked up with the only WR in the formation and the safeties are looking cover 2 alignment.

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    I mean its a 4-3.

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    I think Senquez was going to be a solid slot CB, but the Lisfranc injury and others derailed his career before it got started. Adams has size, but doesn't have quickness off the line, where Smith has quickness and motor, but not the size to set the edge or counter inside if big OT's get their hands on him. I think he can be that pesky situational edge rusher who's speed can give some OT's problems or another backup ILB that is a core special teamer.

    Either way, I like Smith as a solid football player, with good speed and quickness that has a big motor. You really cant not-like any of that.

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    Its actually a 3-4, but Iowa is running double TE set, so the CB on the bottom of the screen just pinches in. The CB on the top of the screen is locked up with the only WR in the formation and the safeties are looking cover 2 alignment.

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    I mean its a 4-3.
    Against this ‘22’ personnel is where an OLB of the size/speed combo of Smith will excel. His initial burst will beat most TEs at the snap. His short area quickness will serve if the TE matadors the block and steps out for a pass.

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    Re: Steelers select Sutton Smith, OLB, Northern Illinois #175 overall.

    Does anyone know if Smith dropped in coverage at all either in college or during the Senior Bowl?

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