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    If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    1) Arizona - Kyler Murray QB Oklahoma
    2) SF 49ers - Nick Bosa DE/OLB Ohio St
    3) NY Jets - Josh Allen DE/OLB Kentucky
    4) Oakland - Quinnen Williams DT/DE Alabama
    5) Tampa Bay - Devin White ILB LSU
    6) NY Giants - Jonah Williams OT Alabama
    7) Jacksonville - Jawaan Taylor OT Florida

    So who would go at number 8 to the Lions if the Steelers don't trade up to this spot?

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Lions LOVE pass catching TE's and could use an upgrade there , they could also use a #1 WR ....

    so Metcalf or Hockenson but can never rule out a top flight corner when A. Rod is in your division
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    If the Lions go defense the value is at edge here. FSU's Burns and Clem's Ferrell are both available. If going pass catcher here there are Metcalf, Butler, and Hockenson that carry top10 value on some boards. If the Steelers were drafting at 8 they would probably take Devin Bush or maybe Brian Burns.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    Lions LOVE pass catching TE's and could use an upgrade there
    Jesse James is offended

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    Lions LOVE pass catching TE's and could use an upgrade there , they could also use a #1 WR ....

    so Metcalf or Hockenson but can never rule out a top flight corner when A. Rod is in your division
    None of these WRs should go first round.

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    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    None of these WRs should go first round.
    Some team will reach on Metcalf because of his freakishness and happens every year on players like that. I remember TE Matt Jones was a huge reach for the Jags.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    So you guys are thinking Metcalf could still be available when the Steelers pick at 20? That is an interesting way to look at it. If the Steelers don't trade up to the 8th spot then I don't think they will get Brian Burns though because I think the Lions will draft him at #8 overall.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    So you guys are thinking Metcalf could still be available when the Steelers pick at 20? That is an interesting way to look at it. If the Steelers don't trade up to the 8th spot then I don't think they will get Brian Burns though because I think the Lions will draft him at #8 overall.
    Metcalf reminds me of David Boston, no thanks.

    and I think Montez Sweat is a wildcard here, some teams reportedly have him completely off their draft board but he's a heckuva player.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue View Post
    Some team will reach on Metcalf because of his freakishness and happens every year on players like that. I remember TE Matt Jones was a huge reach for the Jags.

    he was a QB convert ( Arkansas I think ) was WR with the Jags .... they spent a ton of resources on him based on his 40 time

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    Metcalf reminds me of David Boston, no thanks.

    and I think Montez Sweat is a wildcard here, some teams reportedly have him completely off their draft board but he's a heckuva player.
    Boston was one hell of a player for what 2 years ( and then the roids showed up and he was finished quickly after that )
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    This is my favorite thing that has ever happened here.

    Sweat is plummeting and reportedly has cancelled plans to attend the draft. (hint, hint, Colbert). So I think the Lions address other needs and go edge rusher with Ferell over Gary.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    I think DK Metcalf has a ton of upside. His ceiling is as high as it gets. He may have a low floor if you think he's juicing but his size and speed are rare. Scouts compare him to Josh Gordon(without the drug test fails) and Damarius Thomas. I see him more like Julio Jones in that when he's out there he will demand doubles and still produce for big plays. But like Jones he will have games off to recuperate a couple times a season.(He didn't play a full season in college due to injury issues, like Jones). Taking Metcalf at 20 gives you an X receiver that is also a constant deep threat, plus you get that 5th year option. If he's physically spent after 4 you let him become a free agent. I'm not saying he should definitely be the choice at 20, but I would rather have him on my team than face him twice a year. (Although I like AJ Brown better of the 2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    This is my favorite thing that has ever happened here.

    Sweat is plummeting and reportedly has cancelled plans to attend the draft. (hint, hint, Colbert). So I think the Lions address other needs and go edge rusher with Ferell over Gary.
    I had the Lions making Burns unavailable for the Steelers but I could be persuaded to vote Ferrell.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I think DK Metcalf has a ton of upside. His ceiling is as high as it gets. He may have a low floor if you think he's juicing but his size and speed are rare. Scouts compare him to Josh Gordon(without the drug test fails) and Damarius Thomas. I see him more like Julio Jones in that when he's out there he will demand doubles and still produce for big plays. But like Jones he will have games off to recuperate a couple times a season.(He didn't play a full season in college due to injury issues, like Jones). Taking Metcalf at 20 gives you an X receiver that is also a constant deep threat, plus you get that 5th year option. If he's physically spent after 4 you let him become a free agent. I'm not saying he should definitely be the choice at 20, but I would rather have him on my team than face him twice a year. (Although I like AJ Brown better of the 2)

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    I had the Lions making Burns unavailable for the Steelers but I could be persuaded to vote Ferrell.
    I forgot that Burns was still available for the Steelers to trade up for. I think he would be the guy that would make the Lions GM put the phone down on Colbert and instead turn the card into the commissioner. Honestly, I think the Lions would rather have any of the 3 big name pass rushers left (Burns, Gary, Ferrell) than the Steelers 1st and 3rd round pick.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I forgot that Burns was still available for the Steelers to trade up for. I think he would be the guy that would make the Lions GM put the phone down on Colbert and instead turn the card into the commissioner. Honestly, I think the Lions would rather have any of the 3 big name pass rushers left (Burns, Gary, Ferrell) than the Steelers 1st and 3rd round pick.
    it would take our 1(20), 2(52) and 3(83) picks to move up to 1(8).

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    it would take our 1(20), 2(52) and 3(83) picks to move up to 1(8).
    Who would you want at #8?

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    Who would you want at #8?
    the only player I would consider it for would be Devin White if he were still available, but imo that price is too steep even for him.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

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    he was a QB convert ( Arkansas I think ) was WR with the Jags .... they spent a ton of resources on him based on his 40 time

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    Boston was one hell of a player for what 2 years ( and then the roids showed up and he was finished quickly after that )
    Yea Jones turn out to be a huge bust and had off field issues after they drafted him As for Boston, he did have a few good years and remember cause I had him on my fantasy team. Yea he was into the Roids big time and even did the saving his blood then put it back in him later like Lance Armstrong.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    As for Metcalf I never seen him play but what I read he sounds like a project and may have two huge games out of the year and very little production in others and just my opinion what I read. Also in my opinion after seeing his physique, He has to be having help and very rare to get that big and cut without. Knock on Boston was why he fizz out quick. He put to much muscular weight on his frame and his bones and joints couldn't handle it.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue View Post
    As for Metcalf I never seen him play but what I read he sounds like a project and may have two huge games out of the year and very little production in others and just my opinion what I read. Also in my opinion after seeing his physique, He has to be having help and very rare to get that big and cut without. Knock on Boston was why he fizz out quick. He put to much muscular weight on his frame and his bones and joints couldn't handle it.
    Injuries have ended two out of his three seasons at Ole Miss, this past season with a neck injury and his true freshman season with a broken foot.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    Injuries have ended two out of his three seasons at Ole Miss, this past season with a neck injury and his true freshman season with a broken foot.
    That there is more then enough to be leery. Some team will still take a chance on him in the 1st though and again probably earlier then expected.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    I can see the Lions taking Hock, he's a sure a thing The Lions haven't had much success at the TE position in past drafts.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    I can see the Lions taking Hock, he's a sure a thing The Lions haven't had much success at the TE position in past drafts.
    Not saying the Lions will draft Metcalf but that is the perfect type team that will. Ain't going to do much next year and able to gamble on him.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    Injuries have ended two out of his three seasons at Ole Miss, this past season with a neck injury and his true freshman season with a broken foot.
    My gut feeling is his injury issues will follow him to the NFL.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    the only player I would consider it for would be Devin White if he were still available, but imo that price is too steep even for him.
    I agree. White is who I would consider, but that is a lot to give up.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    I agree. White is who I would consider, but that is a lot to give up.
    I wouldn't do it either and if White or Hock are still around in the teens, sure wouldn't take a ton to move up. Moving up into the top ten like that really only should be for a franchise QB or one missing piece that can can send a team over the hump to a title.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    I’d take Hockenson 100 times out of 100.

    As Hawaii stared: DK Metcalf is David Boston, part II.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    I’d take Hockenson 100 times out of 100.

    As Hawaii stared: DK Metcalf is David Boston, part II.
    Unless he is the next Gronk not worth moving up in the top ten to get him IMO. If he is that next Heath and sounds more like what he will be, okay moving up in the teens to get him.

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    Re: If the Steelers don't trade up to spots 1-19 or back to 21-32 in the first round, the players they most likely missed on are...

    Quote Originally Posted by JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue View Post
    Unless he is the next Gronk not worth moving up in the top ten to get him IMO. If he is that next Heath and sounds more like what he will be, okay moving up in the teens to get him.
    1. We're talking abput pick #8 (Lions)... Metcalf vs. Hockenson.

    2. Since you brought it up, if Hockenson drops anywhere near 15, I'd trade up for him.

    2. I'd take another Heath Miller. I loved that guy.

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