Tomlin and Ben are terrible leaders

[hawaiiansteeler]

[Edman]

Do we need yet another reminder how that season went after that game?

The Steelers never looked or played that good ever again. Sounds to me that they got too high off of their own hype and press clippings and fell apart. Couldn't handle their own success. Sounds like poor leadership to me.

But I what do I know. Ironically the Panthers collapsed after that game too.

[vasteeler]

Ha ha..."man, stop trippin" & "gosh dangit "

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Do we need yet another reminder how that season went after that game?

The Steelers never looked that good ever again. Sounds to me that they got too high off of their own hype and press clippings and fell apart.

Sounds like poor leadership to me, but I what do I know.

[DesertSteel]

Says "Blocked by NFL" when I hit play........

[hawaiiansteeler]

Says "Blocked by NFL" when I hit play........

click on "Watch on You Tube"

[smokin3000gt]

Those pieces of shit!

Do we need yet another reminder how that season went after that game?

The Steelers never looked or played that good ever again. Sounds to me that they got too high off of their own hype and press clippings and fell apart. Couldn't handle their own success. Sounds like poor leadership to me.

But I what do I know. Ironically the Panthers collapsed after that game too.

[st33lersguy]

No one ever accused Tomlin of not being an emotional ra-ra type of guy.

[Shoes]

always thought this was funny.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...dnt-make-sense

[tube517]

always thought this was funny.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...dnt-make-sense

Bert is correct. Lewis never made any sense. Not always the sharpest knife in the kitchen.

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[Shoes]

Bert is correct. Lewis never made any sense. Not always the sharpest knife in the kitchen.

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I see what you did there!

[Bluecoat96]

For sure. His Hof speech really left me confused....but hey....he was passionate. And sweaty. Really sweaty.

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[teegre]

always thought this was funny.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...dnt-make-sense

The Knife’s ramblings always made me think of this...

[86WARD]

Half of Tomlin’s leadership comes from behind closed doors. I think that’s what is mostly in question with him and his sidekick Colbert.

[Born2Steel]

Yesteday on the way home from work there was a dead racoon in the road.

[Hawkman]

Bert is correct. Lewis never made any sense. Not always the sharpest knife in the kitchen.

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Does anyone give credit to the half dull knife........just wondering........it is the off season?

[Fire Goodell]

I hope this season is gonna be our version of spygate where we take all this disrespect out on teams we play and smash them

[FrancoLambert]

Do we need yet another reminder how that season went after that game?

The Steelers never looked or played that good ever again. Sounds to me that they got too high off of their own hype and press clippings and fell apart. Couldn't handle their own success. Sounds like poor leadership to me.

But I what do I know. Ironically the Panthers collapsed after that game too.

Mystery solved. The season went down the tubes after that game because we exhausted all of our bluster.

[tube517]

Does anyone give credit to the half dull knife........just wondering........it is the off season?

I"m sure Ray would take a stab at it...

[Hawkman]

I"m sure Ray would take a stab at it...

[Born2Steel]

Can one of these 'bad culture' fans please explain to me why they think any game day goes any differently than that on the Steelers sideline? Football is not what your Madden game says it is, it is not what fantasy sports click says it is, football is played by guys that work together. When guys stop trying to be part of the team is when it goes bad. Has little to do with that man running things in the cool shades. Has everything to do with that guy that quit on US. Need more guys that play for team(it's not a quality you teach btw) and we keep moving forward. Football is and always will be just football. Nothing bigger than that.

[DesertSteel]

Can one of these 'bad culture' fans please explain to me why they think any game day goes any differently than that on the Steelers sideline? Football is not what your Madden game says it is, it is not what fantasy sports click says it is, football is played by guys that work together. When guys stop trying to be part of the team is when it goes bad. Has little to do with that man running things in the cool shades. Has everything to do with that guy that quit on US. Need more guys that play for team(it's not a quality you teach btw) and we keep moving forward. Football is and always will be just football. Nothing bigger than that.

But that's what bad culture is, so I don't understand your question.

[Born2Steel]

But that's what bad culture is, so I don't understand your question.

Explain how it gets blamed on Tomlin or Ben. I know the thread title is ironic, but that has been the overall blame game on here.

[DesertSteel]

Explain how it gets blamed on Tomlin or Ben. I know the thread title is ironic, but that has been the overall blame game on here.

Behavior is on the player. Culture is on the leader. That’s Culture 101.

[hawaiiansteeler]

No one ever accused Tomlin of not being an emotional ra-ra type of guy.

[Born2Steel]

Behavior is on the player. Culture is on the leader. That’s Culture 101.

Got it. So now that I pass 101 what is Culture 201?

[86WARD]

http://team.fastmodelsports.com/2018...lture-success/

[DesertSteel]

Got it. So now that I pass 101 what is Culture 201?

Enforcing the boundaries with EVERY PLAYER - even the star ones. I get it that Jimmy Johnson treated the triplets different and so on. But they were winning Super Bowls. Until that happens again in Pittsburgh, no exceptions. Privileges are earned - and not just through stats. I'm not trying to be condescending at all - it's just my strong opinion about culture and leadership.

[Mojouw]

Enforcing the boundaries with EVERY PLAYER - even the star ones. I get it that Jimmy Johnson treated the triplets different and so on. But they were winning Super Bowls. Until that happens again in Pittsburgh, no exceptions. Privileges are earned - and not just through stats. I'm not trying to be condescending at all - it's just my strong opinion about culture and leadership.

I've never been part of a team or organization where the rules are the same for everyone. maybe the military?

I'm just wondering if what you're advocating for ever really takes place?

[DesertSteel]

I've never been part of a team or organization where the rules are the same for everyone. maybe the military?

I'm just wondering if what you're advocating for ever really takes place?

I expect that it does in some places. Certainly the variances aren't always as great as they were in Pittsburgh in recent years.

[Mojouw]

I expect that it does in some places. Certainly the variances aren't always as great as they were in Pittsburgh in recent years.

That's hopefully true.

Interesting question. Yes or no. Has anyone ever worked for anyplace where certain people didn't have the same rules as everyone else?

I never have.