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    Team Needs - Discussion - Post Combine/Free Agency

    Players currently on the roster

    Offensive (25)

    Quarterbacks - Roethlisberger, Rudolph, Dobbs, Roback

    It looks to me like we're solid here.

    Runningbacks - Conner, Samuels, Nix, Edmunds, Webb, Williams

    3 solid spots filled and 3 more young guys fighting for one spot. (IMO - RB NEED)

    Tightends - McDonald, Grimble, Hodges, Rader, Scotland-Williamson

    We have one solid, yet oft injured player with two more borderline players and another two more young depth players. (IMO - TE NEED)

    Wide Receivers - JUJU, Moncrief, Washington, Switzer, Rogers, Griffey, Jones, Spencer, White

    I think that this group of five players could get by, improving as the year moves on, but I think that adding a potential Starter would be nice. (IMO - WR NEED)

    Offensive Tackles - Feiler, Villanueva, Okorafor, Hawkins, Prince, Banner

    We have two starters and a young depth guy but need another player if Hawkins isn't healthy. (IMO - OT NEED)

    Offensive Guards - DeCastro, Foster, Finney

    I know the team like Finney but I'm not a fan, plus Foster is nine hundred years old. IMO we need a future starter here but it might now be an immediate need. (IMO - OG NEED)

    Offensive Centers - Pouncey, Morris


    Defensive (25)

    Defensive Ends - Heyward, Tuitt, Alualu, Hooks, Sheehy

    again with three solid starting caliber players but a fourth depth option is needed. (IMO - DE NEED)

    Defensive Tackles - Hargraves, McCullers

    McCullers has all the ability in the world but needs to finally live up to it.

    Outside Linebackers - Watt, Dupree, Chickillo, Adeniyi

    Watt is money, Dupree is an ok starter but Chickillo is depth only and Adeniyi has yet to earn a spot. (IMO - OLB NEED)

    Inside Linebackers - Shazier-IR, V.Williams, Barron, Matakavich, Bostic, Scales, SpillaneRyan isn't coming back. I'm not a Vince fan, don't know what Barron has and Tyler is a back up. (IMO - ILB NEED x2)

    Cornerbacks -
    Haden, Hilton, Nelson, Sutton, Burns, B.Allen, Waters

    Nelson and Haden are starters, Sutton and Hilton are slot players. We need future starters and more talent (IMO - CB NEED)

    Safeties - Davis, Edmunds, M.Allen, Burnett, Dangerfield

    Burnett is on his way out, Dangerfield is a PS talent, and I don't know what the other three offer yet...still young and unproven. (IMO - S NEED)


    Special Teams (3)

    Kickers - Boswell, McCrane

    Punters - Berry

    Long Snappers - Canaday


    GREEN - Should make the roster

    BLUE - Borderline roster spot

    RED - Injured Reserve


    Team Needs


    Immediate - ILB, TE, DL

    Moderate - WR, CB, S

    Future/Depth - EDGE, OT, OG, RB, ILB


    TDN - Predictive - MOCK DRAFT - based off need vs. BPA

    RD1 - TE - TJ Hockenson - Iowa

    RD2 - WR - Riley Ridley - Georgia

    RD3 - S - Taylor Rapp - Washington
    RD3 - DL - Khalen Saunders - W.Ill

    RD4 - ILB - Germaine Pratt - NC State

    RD5 - OG/C - Michael Jordan - OSU

    RD6 - EDGE - Carl Granderson - Wyoming
    RD6 - CB - Jamal Peters - Miss. St.
    RD6 - OT - Mitch Hyatt - Clemson

    RD7 - RB - Bryce Love - Stanford

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    Re: Team Needs - Discussion - Post Combine/Free Agency

    I don’t necessarily love the draft but I do love the format and post. Well done.

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    Revised - TDN - Predictive - MOCK DRAFT - (based off need vs. BPA)

    RD1 - ILB - Devin Bush - Michigan

    RD2 - TE - Irv Smith Jr. - Alabama

    RD3 - OLB - Chase Winovich - Michigan
    RD3 - WR - Riley Ridley - Georgia

    RD4 - S - Chauncey Gardner-Johnson - Florida

    RD5 - OG/C - Michael Jordan - OSU

    RD6 - RB - Bryce Love - Stanford
    RD6 - DE - Jonathon Ledbetter - Georgia
    RD6 - CB - Mark Fields - Clemson

    RD7 - OT - Mitch Hyatt - Clemson

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    Re: Team Needs - Discussion - Post Combine/Free Agency

    The more game tape I watch on Greedy, White, Murphy, Sweat, Bama, etc, the more impressed I have become with Auburn QB Stidham. If he’s still there in the 5th/6th I would have to consider him.

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    Re: Team Needs - Discussion - Post Combine/Free Agency

    Quote Originally Posted by BEERgods225 View Post
    Players currently on the roster

    Offensive (25)

    Quarterbacks - Roethlisberger, Rudolph, Dobbs, Roback

    It looks to me like we're solid here.

    Runningbacks - Conner, Samuels, Nix, Edmunds, Webb, Williams

    3 solid spots filled and 3 more young guys fighting for one spot. (IMO - RB NEED)

    Tightends - McDonald, Grimble, Hodges, Rader, Scotland-Williamson

    We have one solid, yet oft injured player with two more borderline players and another two more young depth players. (IMO - TE NEED)

    Wide Receivers - JUJU, Moncrief, Washington, Switzer, Rogers, Griffey, Jones, Spencer, White

    I think that this group of five players could get by, improving as the year moves on, but I think that adding a potential Starter would be nice. (IMO - WR NEED)

    Offensive Tackles - Feiler, Villanueva, Okorafor, Hawkins, Prince, Banner

    We have two starters and a young depth guy but need another player if Hawkins isn't healthy. (IMO - OT NEED)

    Offensive Guards - DeCastro, Foster, Finney

    I know the team like Finney but I'm not a fan, plus Foster is nine hundred years old. IMO we need a future starter here but it might now be an immediate need. (IMO - OG NEED)

    Offensive Centers - Pouncey, Morris


    Defensive (25)

    Defensive Ends - Heyward, Tuitt, Alualu, Hooks, Sheehy

    again with three solid starting caliber players but a fourth depth option is needed. (IMO - DE NEED)

    Defensive Tackles - Hargraves, McCullers

    McCullers has all the ability in the world but needs to finally live up to it.

    Outside Linebackers - Watt, Dupree, Chickillo, Adeniyi

    Watt is money, Dupree is an ok starter but Chickillo is depth only and Adeniyi has yet to earn a spot. (IMO - OLB NEED)

    Inside Linebackers - Shazier-IR, V.Williams, Barron, Matakavich, Bostic, Scales, SpillaneRyan isn't coming back. I'm not a Vince fan, don't know what Barron has and Tyler is a back up. (IMO - ILB NEED x2)

    Cornerbacks -
    Haden, Hilton, Nelson, Sutton, Burns, B.Allen, Waters

    Nelson and Haden are starters, Sutton and Hilton are slot players. We need future starters and more talent (IMO - CB NEED)

    Safeties - Davis, Edmunds, M.Allen, Burnett, Dangerfield

    Burnett is on his way out, Dangerfield is a PS talent, and I don't know what the other three offer yet...still young and unproven. (IMO - S NEED)


    Special Teams (3)

    Kickers - Boswell, McCrane

    Punters - Berry

    Long Snappers - Canaday


    GREEN - Should make the roster

    BLUE - Borderline roster spot

    RED - Injured Reserve


    Team Needs


    Immediate - ILB, TE, DL

    Moderate - WR, CB, S

    Future/Depth - EDGE, OT, OG, RB, ILB


    TDN - Predictive - MOCK DRAFT - based off need vs. BPA

    RD1 - TE - TJ Hockenson - Iowa

    RD2 - WR - Riley Ridley - Georgia

    RD3 - S - Taylor Rapp - Washington
    RD3 - DL - Khalen Saunders - W.Ill

    RD4 - ILB - Germaine Pratt - NC State

    RD5 - OG/C - Michael Jordan - OSU

    RD6 - EDGE - Carl Granderson - Wyoming
    RD6 - CB - Jamal Peters - Miss. St.
    RD6 - OT - Mitch Hyatt - Clemson

    RD7 - RB - Bryce Love - Stanford

    good work , I would argue that TE or DL is not any bigger need than S or Edge ... in fact I would say Edge and S are bigger needs than DL ...Davis final year of his rookie deal and likely wont be returning , Dupree on his 5th year option and likely gone after this year and both could afford to be upgraded anyways getting a guy a year early and working him in when ready instead of forcing him into action is our normal MO


    Taylor Rapp no way slides to round 3 IMO ( unless he got busted for something in the past week that I am not aware of )
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    I list EDGE and S as moderate, IMO, because both positions have bodies but are young and really have left us in limbo not knowing what their worth is. Yes we need someone to step up at those positions but there are bodies there that we hope can fill those voids. We don't know just yet. At TE, we have one good TE (WHEN HEALTHY) and nothing behind him. A good TE opens the entire field of play up for the offense. I think that's important, especially in the endzone where Ben has been struggling for a few seasons now. DL has us with solid/great starters and even one starting caliber back up but McCullers has been a let down every year since being drafted and there is no depth at DE.

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    Re: Team Needs - Discussion - Post Combine/Free Agency

    Quote Originally Posted by BEERgods225 View Post
    I list EDGE and S as moderate, IMO, because both positions have bodies but are young and really have left us in limbo not knowing what their worth is. Yes we need someone to step up at those positions but there are bodies there that we hope can fill those voids. We don't know just yet. At TE, we have one good TE (WHEN HEALTHY) and nothing behind him. A good TE opens the entire field of play up for the offense. I think that's important, especially in the endzone where Ben has been struggling for a few seasons now. DL has us with solid/great starters and even one starting caliber back up but McCullers has been a let down every year since being drafted and there is no depth at DE.

    TE from what I witnessed at camp last year ( and the fact they kept him on the PS all year ) I think many get surprised by Hodges ... he gives you the mismatch your looking for in the passing game but his blocking was poor being the knock ... that blocking vastly improved during camp and with the entire season on the PS and another off season and camp I look for him to make the 53 and contribute


    DE Tyson Alualu , Lavon Hooks ( whom I like )

    DT Alualu is pos flexible and able to play all across the line in a 3-4 ( so McCullers is never the first guy off the bench unless someone is hurt and Alualu is now starting )

    N Hargrave ............ Alualu / McCullers

    I think this is a strong group and they will likely draft someone middle rounds or later or add a vet at cutdown ...

    we can find bigmen what we have lacked the ability to find are quality secondary players and inside linebackers who can cover and still tackle in the run game without being drug or run over and hanging on for the tackle 5 yards later
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    Re: Team Needs - Discussion - Post Combine/Free Agency

    If Devin White is not there at 20, how would you guys feel about taking Blake Cashman there? I doubt he’s on the board at pick 52. I understand other players on the board and all. Asking from an ILB pov. Cashman at 20, yes or no? I would take him depending on the board.

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    Re: Team Needs - Discussion - Post Combine/Free Agency

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    If Devin White is not there at 20, how would you guys feel about taking Blake Cashman there? I doubt he’s on the board at pick 52. I understand other players on the board and all. Asking from an ILB pov. Cashman at 20, yes or no? I would take him depending on the board.
    In order to take Cashman at 20, numerous other players would have to be off the board first. (In no particular order)

    ILB Devin White
    ILB Devin Bush
    ILB Mack Wilson

    DT Quinnen Williams
    DT Ed Oliver
    DT Christian Wilkins
    DT Jeffrey Simmons
    DT Dexter Lawrence
    DT Jerry Tillery

    EDGE Nick Bosa
    EDGE Josh Allen
    EDGE Rashan Gary
    EDGE Montez Sweat
    EDGE Clelin Ferrell

    TE TJ Hockenson
    TE Noah Fant

    WR AJ Brown
    WR Deebo Smauels
    WR Riley Ridley

    CB DeAndre Baker
    CB Byron Murphy
    CB Greedy Williams
    CB Rock Ya-Sin

    OG Cody Ford
    OG Garrett Bradbury

    IF all of the above 25 listed players are off the board at 20, then I would contemplate taking Cashman at 20. I not saying all of the above listed player fit a need but they would be a more highly rated option at that position.

    Come to think of it, if all 25 of those players are off the board at 20 then I'd probably take Chase Winovich or even maybe Brian Burns first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    TE from what I witnessed at camp last year ( and the fact they kept him on the PS all year ) I think many get surprised by Hodges ... he gives you the mismatch your looking for in the passing game but his blocking was poor being the knock ... that blocking vastly improved during camp and with the entire season on the PS and another off season and camp I look for him to make the 53 and contribute
    So, what are you thinking it looks like?

    Team Needs

    Immediate - ILB, CB

    Moderate - S,
    TE, EDGE, WR

    Future/Depth - DL, OT, OG, RB, ILB

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    Re: Team Needs - Discussion - Post Combine/Free Agency

    Quote Originally Posted by BEERgods225 View Post
    So, what are you thinking it looks like?

    Team Needs

    Immediate - ILB, CB

    Moderate - S,
    TE, EDGE, WR

    Future/Depth - DL, OT, OG, RB, ILB

    I think we can not rule out any of the following ( in no specific order ) CB /ILB/ S /Edge

    and I would not be surprised if the first 4 picks off the board for the steelers consist of at least 3 of those 4 slots ( WR perhaps taking the 4th spot )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    I think we can not rule out any of the following ( in no specific order ) CB /ILB/ S /Edge

    and I would not be surprised if the first 4 picks off the board for the steelers consist of at least 3 of those 4 slots ( WR perhaps taking the 4th spot )
    Seems like a solid plan. Any idea that they grab another DL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEERgods225 View Post
    In order to take Cashman at 20, numerous other players would have to be off the board first. (In no particular order)

    ILB Devin White
    ILB Devin Bush
    ILB Mack Wilson

    DT Quinnen Williams
    DT Ed Oliver
    DT Christian Wilkins
    DT Jeffrey Simmons
    DT Dexter Lawrence
    DT Jerry Tillery

    EDGE Nick Bosa
    EDGE Josh Allen
    EDGE Rashan Gary
    EDGE Montez Sweat
    EDGE Clelin Ferrell

    TE TJ Hockenson
    TE Noah Fant

    WR AJ Brown
    WR Deebo Smauels
    WR Riley Ridley

    CB DeAndre Baker
    CB Byron Murphy
    CB Greedy Williams
    CB Rock Ya-Sin

    OG Cody Ford
    OG Garrett Bradbury

    IF all of the above 25 listed players are off the board at 20, then I would contemplate taking Cashman at 20. I not saying all of the above listed player fit a need but they would be a more highly rated option at that position.

    Come to think of it, if all 25 of those players are off the board at 20 then I'd probably take Chase Winovich or even maybe Brian Burns first.
    I love that you put so much into this response but it wasn’t necessary. I have the list of players too. As I asked in my post, from an ILB point of view. So if Devin White and Devin Bush are gone at 20, who at ILB would you consider taking at 20?
    1. I think ILB is at such a need right now a bit of reach is allowable to get someone that can play.

    2. I also think there are ILBs in this draft that are not as much of a reach as the rest of you guys, so it seems.

    3. Mack Wilson has been completely shot down on this forum. Blake Cashman is the next ILB ‘I’ personally think is exactly the type LB the Steelers need.

    4. I don’t think White, Bush, Wilson, or Cashman will be there at 52. Thus I give those 4 ILBs, reach or not, a first round value for the Steelers.

    I’m just asking to see if anyone agrees or if not, what are the reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    If Devin White is not there at 20, how would you guys feel about taking Blake Cashman there? I doubt he’s on the board at pick 52. I understand other players on the board and all. Asking from an ILB pov. Cashman at 20, yes or no? I would take him depending on the board.
    I'd take my chances later on ILB in your scenario. Cashman is a decent enough ILB, but imo, if you're going to reach for need, that is a proven fail... and honestly I have Pratt as a higher ranking than Cashman, so I don't think I reach for Pratt at 20 either. We need to stick with the BPA calculation. Only positions I would not consider on the board that early are QB and possible OL since we we already have a solid core under contract. For my money, if you're gonna make a reach that early, it better be for an edge guy. Which would put us in Winovich territory on most accounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelMember View Post
    I'd take my chances later on ILB in your scenario. Cashman is a decent enough ILB, but imo, if you're going to reach for need, that is a proven fail... and honestly I have Pratt as a higher ranking than Cashman, so I don't think I reach for Pratt at 20 either. We need to stick with the BPA calculation. Only positions I would not consider on the board that early are QB and possible OL since we we already have a solid core under contract. For my money, if you're gonna make a reach that early, it better be for an edge guy. Which would put us in Winovich territory on most accounts.
    I completely agree on BPA in the 1st. I believe that is where you get the game changers and generational talent guys. I very much dislike the idea of reaching for position of need in the first round. Watching game tape though I don’t see guys like Wilson, Cashman, or maybe even Pratt, as a much bigger reach than “the Devins”. I don’t see anything in “the Devin’s” game tape that says “game changer or generational talent”. I’m not sure either would have been first round guys at all in last year’s draft. I would put them behind Roquan Smith, LVE, and Evans at any rate. But that’s how the LB class falls this draft so I get it. But from a talent perspective I don’t see Wilson or Cashman as a dropoff from Bush. Somewhat a dropoff from White just because he is so big and fast. But he has his warts as well.

    I believe the target this year is Devin Bush. I think he’s a reach as well. I think the better option is offensive playmaker, or one of Greedy, Murphy, or Baker. Even a couple of the edge rushers make more sense to me than Devin Bush. Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Seems like a solid plan. Any idea that they grab another DL?
    I think we take one late if I am honest , and I also think we bring someone in at cutdown that forces that later round DL to the PS to learn the scheme and get up to speed ( see Keisel )
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    I cannot agree that DL is an immediate need and that ILB and Edge only go on as future/depth. DL is a strong point on the team at most there needs back end depth. ILB and OLB both need high impact starters/upgrades at the starting position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    I think we take one late if I am honest , and I also think we bring someone in at cutdown that forces that later round DL to the PS to learn the scheme and get up to speed ( see Keisel )
    I like it. Now if they just would ask...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I love that you put so much into this response but it wasn’t necessary. I have the list of players too. As I asked in my post, from an ILB point of view. So if Devin White and Devin Bush are gone at 20, who at ILB would you consider taking at 20?
    1. I think ILB is at such a need right now a bit of reach is allowable to get someone that can play.

    2. I also think there are ILBs in this draft that are not as much of a reach as the rest of you guys, so it seems.

    3. Mack Wilson has been completely shot down on this forum. Blake Cashman is the next ILB ‘I’ personally think is exactly the type LB the Steelers need.

    4. I don’t think White, Bush, Wilson, or Cashman will be there at 52. Thus I give those 4 ILBs, reach or not, a first round value for the Steelers.

    I’m just asking to see if anyone agrees or if not, what are the reasons.


    1. This team has so many needs (CB, TE, DL, EDGE, WR, S, ILB, ILB) that reaching when other talent is on the board is not a successful plan IMO.

    2. There are many options in this draft that I agree are not a reach.....later in the draft. IMO, there is no LVE in this draft. However should a Devin fall to us, I think the value is on point with the position.

    3. Mack Wilson is a viable option, as is Cashman and Pratt etc. etc..... but not in the first round. Realistically a CB is probably the most logical pick at 20 followed by a TE....If a Devin isn't on the board at 20.

    4. If I had to follow the rules of your question and select a LB without the Devins being on the board, then I think Chase Winovich would be my choice here at 20.

    ULTIMATELY without a Devin, LB is off the board IMO at 20.

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    Re: Team Needs - Discussion - Post Combine/Free Agency

    Quote Originally Posted by BEERgods225 View Post
    1. This team has so many needs (CB, TE, DL, EDGE, WR, S, ILB, ILB) that reaching when other talent is on the board is not a successful plan IMO.

    2. There are many options in this draft that I agree are not a reach.....later in the draft. IMO, there is no LVE in this draft. However should a Devin fall to us, I think the value is on point with the position.

    3. Mack Wilson is a viable option, as is Cashman and Pratt etc. etc..... but not in the first round. Realistically a CB is probably the most logical pick at 20 followed by a TE....If a Devin isn't on the board at 20.

    4. If I had to follow the rules of your question and select a LB without the Devins being on the board, then I think Chase Winovich would be my choice here at 20.

    ULTIMATELY without a Devin, LB is off the board IMO at 20.
    I actually kind of agree about CB. By eliminating players from the board, when you take away both Devins before the 20th pick, CB is the most logical choice. As far as talent level at the position meets team need meets dropoff at the position at 52.

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    Re: Team Needs - Discussion - Post Combine/Free Agency

    Without ranking by position of need, each position and the players from that group that are options(In my opinion) at pick 20. I think the only position groups I would be disappointed with would be QB, RB, or Safety. QB because WHY? And Safety because we already have a round 1 and round 2. Maybe Gardner-Johnson because he is really that versatile.

    DL there are obviously a few guys in this group that if they fell to 20 would be awesome.
    OLB is a different criteria due to dropping into coverage s we like to do.
    ILB is our biggest need for a cover ILB. White, Bush, Wilson, or Cashman all fit the criteria for me.
    CB is pretty much Greedy or Murphy in the first for me. I think Mullen, Rock, or Love could be justified reaches.
    Safety as I said before only Gardner-Johnson would not be a disappointing pick.
    OL if the next Pouncey/Decastro should fall then why not. 2-3 years as a backup is the only why not.
    WR who is worthy of going in the first? Metcalf, Butler, AJ, Harry, Harmon, Samuel, Whiteside? All very productive. Which names would disappoint?
    TE is Hockenson or mid round IMO.

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    Re: Team Needs - Discussion - Post Combine/Free Agency

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Without ranking by position of need, each position and the players from that group that are options(In my opinion) at pick 20. I think the only position groups I would be disappointed with would be QB, RB, or Safety. QB because WHY? And Safety because we already have a round 1 and round 2. Maybe Gardner-Johnson because he is really that versatile.

    DL there are obviously a few guys in this group that if they fell to 20 would be awesome.
    OLB is a different criteria due to dropping into coverage s we like to do.
    ILB is our biggest need for a cover ILB. White, Bush, Wilson, or Cashman all fit the criteria for me.
    CB is pretty much Greedy or Murphy in the first for me. I think Mullen, Rock, or Love could be justified reaches.
    Safety as I said before only Gardner-Johnson would not be a disappointing pick.
    OL if the next Pouncey/Decastro should fall then why not. 2-3 years as a backup is the only why not.
    WR who is worthy of going in the first? Metcalf, Butler, AJ, Harry, Harmon, Samuel, Whiteside? All very productive. Which names would disappoint?
    TE is Hockenson or mid round IMO.
    I noticed you leave Baker off of your CB possibilities... I think that kid has some real talent, and the swagger/confidence of an Ike Taylor. He truly thinks he's the best. And while the "long speed" seems to be his biggest knock by most, it wasn't something that noticeable in his game file that turned me off. Most times he does well with his coverage, and even more times he wasn't even throw at... Personally, I'd consider him at 20.

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    Re: Team Needs - Discussion - Post Combine/Free Agency

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Cashman at 20, yes or no?
    WAY too early imo...

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    Re: Team Needs - Discussion - Post Combine/Free Agency

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    WAY too early imo...
    You're right. It's more I think the Steelers are less likely to take him at 20.

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    Re: Team Needs - Discussion - Post Combine/Free Agency

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelMember View Post
    I noticed you leave Baker off of your CB possibilities... I think that kid has some real talent, and the swagger/confidence of an Ike Taylor. He truly thinks he's the best. And while the "long speed" seems to be his biggest knock by most, it wasn't something that noticeable in his game file that turned me off. Most times he does well with his coverage, and even more times he wasn't even throw at... Personally, I'd consider him at 20.
    Oops, Baker should be on there.

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