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    Re: Are the Steelers preparing for a big trade up in the draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    If they trade down everyone will argue that it was dumb because they need immediate help because SB. If they stay put it will be bad because they’ll just reach for a guy that could’ve been on the board 4 rounds later. If they trade up it’ll be bad because they’re gonna be giving up too much to get a raw player who needs coaching the team doesn’t have.

    Should be a fun weekend.

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    Re: Are the Steelers preparing for a big trade up in the draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    If they trade down everyone will argue that it was dumb because they need immediate help because SB. If they stay put it will be bad because they’ll just reach for a guy that could’ve been on the board 4 rounds later. If they trade up it’ll be bad because they’re gonna be giving up too much to get a raw player who needs coaching the team doesn’t have.

    Should be a fun weekend.
    Unfortunately the win now game plan took a major hit when AB forced his way off the team but with an aging OL and QB that still is where this team is at

    I would be very surprised if they traded down even if from a straight value standpoint that might be the appropriate move with the available talent at pick #20 - if the two Devins go off the board before the Steelers make a move to trade up Thursday night will be when the flamethrowers come out

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    Re: Are the Steelers preparing for a big trade up in the draft?

    10 picks. Surely they select 1 or 2 players that will be useful going forward. The OL is aging but the rest of the offense has gotten younger. Have to think Rudolph is the heir to the throne or at least the plan. I can see a versatile OG/C being selected this draft, I thought one would be selected last draft but went with Chuks instead. Going forward(after Foster, Pouncey, Decastro retire) OL looks like AV, Finney, not on team yet, Feiler, Chuks?
    JuJu, Wash, Moncrief(maybe), not on team yet as the new young WRs. Conner and Samuels already have a firm grip on the RB corps moving forward. The future of this offense is already taking shape.

    The defense is maybe in the last year under the current DC. Have to be a little more patient on that side until there is a clear direction and plan. As for now we fans really have no idea what the future is on the defensive side of things. Could be in much better shape than we think, or maybe not. Just need better players right now.

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    Re: Are the Steelers preparing for a big trade up in the draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    SI throws a curve and rather than having the Steelers trade up has the Steelers trading down and out of the first round in this mock draft
    I would not mind trading down from 20, and also, simultaneously trading up from R4 & R5... collecting as many picks between 33 and 102 as possible.

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    Re: Are the Steelers preparing for a big trade up in the draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    I would not mind trading down from 20, and also, simultaneously trading up from R4 & R5... collecting as many picks between 33 and 102 as possible.
    A bunch of 2nd and 3rd rounders would look good to me...

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    Re: Are the Steelers preparing for a big trade up in the draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    A bunch of 2nd and 3rd rounders would look good to me...
    IMO, that is the "sweet spot" of the draft: not too much cost, but still a lot of highly-skilled players.

    In other words, you can gamble on "fringe" players without setting yourself back if you do indeed whiff. Plus, the averages say that if you have two R2 picks (versus one R1 pick), you are more likely to "hit" on one of those two. Of course, the ceiling is higher for a R1 pick (for obvious reasons), but sometimes those R2 guys are just as good (but simply did not produce well enough in college to warrant a R1 draft slot).

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    Re: Are the Steelers preparing for a big trade up in the draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    IMO, that is the "sweet spot" of the draft: not too much cost, but still a lot of highly-skilled players.

    In other words, you can gamble on "fringe" players without setting yourself back if you do indeed whiff. Plus, the averages say that if you have two R2 picks (versus one R1 pick), you are more likely to "hit" on one of those two. Of course, the ceiling is higher for a R1 pick (for obvious reasons), but sometimes those R2 guys are just as good (but simply did not produce well enough in college to warrant a R1 draft slot).
    Colbert likes the fifth-year option that Round 1 draft picks have, it does provide additional value.

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    Re: Are the Steelers preparing for a big trade up in the draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    Colbert likes the fifth-year option that Round 1 draft picks have, it does provide additional value.
    Yes! Where would we be without the 5th year on Bud?!

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    Re: Are the Steelers preparing for a big trade up in the draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    Colbert likes the fifth-year option that Round 1 draft picks have, it does provide additional value.
    It’s why there is so much action and talk at the ass end of the first round...people want that option year...it carries value and its part of the reason the “trade value chart” is a little out dated.

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    Re: Are the Steelers preparing for a big trade up in the draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    Colbert likes the fifth-year option that Round 1 draft picks have, it does provide additional value.
    Very true.

    Then again, the value at the top of R2 is insane. Teams have had 18 hours to reorganize their boards... and someone always drops... and, we’d be in position to nab him. Or, if one is willing to trade back, you can reap a nice haul.

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    Re: Are the Steelers preparing for a big trade up in the draft?

    the Steelers are working to get a new deal for Ben done before the draft, could they be possibly exploring creating enough cap room to trade for Patrick Peterson or maybe clearing a trade up scenario for a LB?

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    Re: Are the Steelers preparing for a big trade up in the draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    the Steelers are working to get a new deal for Ben done before the draft, could they be possibly exploring creating enough cap room to trade for Patrick Peterson or maybe clearing a trade up scenario for a LB?
    I think they want to go into this draft with all optional open and for once looks like they have. There should be no reaching for players and etc.

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    Re: Are the Steelers preparing for a big trade up in the draft?

    Under Tomlin, the steelers have never made a trade up or down in the first round .... the safe bet is that the steelers will stay put again!

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    Re: Are the Steelers preparing for a big trade up in the draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Under Tomlin, the steelers have never made a trade up or down in the first round .... the safe bet is that the steelers will stay put again!
    Most likely the case this draft as well. Now though they have the option to inquire and listen to phone calls and act if they are interested.

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