andy reid is the gm correct?
Chiefs moves so far make no sense. They are a team with lots of money and they are steady dropping decent players and getting no draft picks for them . IDK, seems like a defense implosion
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He's no Artie Burns, so there's that.
OK, we'll see how this goes.
My favorite thing this week is how the talking heads have said that Nelson is being signed as a nickel back because the Steelers have Haden and Burns starting outside. You know that first round draft pick Artie Burns from a couple years ago...(Brady Quinn being a major one). It just continues to show that no one prepares for their job and if they don’t know the answer, instead of saying they don’t know, they just spew some facts that are so far untrue...
Fair enough. I found this earlier https://arrowheadaddict.com/2018/11/...-nelson-2019/:
"There’s also the fact that Nelson has finally stuck to a specific role instead of moving back and forth between the boundary and slot positions. Playing in a boundary role helps Nelson’s style of play using that boundary as another defender considering he tends to play more aggressively."
No idea if that is a decent report or not.
As to the 14.1 #, I didn't find that. I found a variety of #'s listed around 12 yards. I did see somewhere that not only did Nelson face more pass targets than any other DB, but they were deeper than any other DB as well. He did have a fairly high incompletion rate on those targets. So, maybe he actually defends a # of passes, but if they are all 10, 20, or more yards downfield, any completions you do allow are going to spike that yard per reception #?
Hard to tell because some much of these advanced stats are behind pay-walls.
He’s going to wear 22.
With the Steelers able to start Nelson and Haden on the outside how important does it become to get Sensabaugh re-signed to back up either/both? Just talking boundary defense Allen or one of the safeties is all there is behind them. Colbert and Tomlin were both at LSU, Clemson, Michigan, and Notre Dame pro days which puts guys like Greedy Williams, Trayvon Mullen, and Julien Love in the mix for 1st round possibilities if tradition continues. I have paid Nelson zero attention for his career so I have no idea how to expect him to play for us.Is he head and shoulders better than Sensabaugh? Does signing Nelson take the 1st round CB draft prospects off the Steelers board? For me this signing helps solidify depth but how do you guys feel moving forward at boundary?
Nelson I think lessens the need for a corner. Depth is still an issue but I don't consider a round 1 presser of a need. For round 1, I would like to see some others areas addressed such as TE (who plays when Vance goes down), Safety, a OLB (don't tell me Bud Dupree is a viable answer as a starting OLB, 4 years and he hasn't made an impact), ILB (Not sold on Barron as more than depth). With Moncrief I would also wait on WR ((especially since I am not sold on this WR class)
In your opinion is Nelson a good enough signing to take the top listed boundary CBs off the Steelers 1st round board? Sensabaugh is not re-signed at this time, and Brian Allen is the only CB behind Nelson and Haden at this time. How much dropoff in boundary CB talent between the 1st round and the 3rd round? I think Nelson is a very good, much needed signing. I just don't know if it does lessen the need for a boundary CB moving forward, or if it does lessen the need, to what extent. Not trying to turn this into another draft thread, I am asking about what Nelson brings to the position.
Depth is still an issue, and yes I am well aware that free agency is no sure thing but they have Haden and Hilton already and now they are paying over $8 million a year on Nelson. With some measures it seems on paper they addressed no. 2 CB and if they aren't sold on Nelson that they still want to spend a 1st round pick on a corner, why pay him $25 million over 3 years especially with other positions that still need immediate starters
As for the 'why', Colbert never goes into a draft with a position empty. Comparatively the Nelson signing is inexpensive for a boundary CB to a boundary CB hungry team. My previous thought was the same as what you are saying here too. Why sign Nelson to a multi-year deal if he's not at least your 2019 starter? I just no longer think this signing drops the need for a boundary CB enough to take one off the 1st round board, or at least makes me question that move if it does.
Haden is approaching the “drop off” point in his career. So, a CB is still a very real option at 20.
I mean, we have had two good CBs in the past twenty years... so, I wouldn’t stop trying to fill that void (just because we just signed Nelson). Personally, I’d draft a CB (by the end of R3) every single draft.
Sidenote: I could see Haden switching to FS (in 2020).
I wonder if Haden moving to FS after this season is a viable option? Sean Davis' contract is up after this year I believe, and I am not sure he is the long term answer at that spot. I could see Haden going the Rod Woodson route and switching to FS for the remainder of his career. I think CB is a definite possibility in the first round.
(OK, just saw Teegre's post after writing the above.......so obviously some of you all are thinking like me regarding Haden and the FS spot).
Counting on Haden for much beyond this year is unwise, in my opinion. DB play quality and injury seems to fall off a cliff at some random point over 30 years old. Haden turns 30 in April. Revis fell out of the league starting in his age 31 season. Richard Sherman began to break down and struggle with injuries at 29. Of course the Woodsons (Rod and Charles) and Darell Green played forever, so who knows? But I would start throwing draft picks higher than the 4th round at the situation immediately. Burns is toast unless Austin is the same level of position coach that Munchak was. Sutton is not even close to what he was billed as being. Allen just never panned out. That is about as bad as the LB room.
Agree with this. At 20 I would look for Greedy, Mullen, Love, possibly Murphy, Gardner-Johnson, or Bush/Wilson. I think the need is simply too great to find somebody at CB and ILB that the Steelers are forced to go there at 20. 31 players will come off the board before they pick again.
Haden has even said he expects to make the move to FS later in his career so that wouldn't surprise a bit.
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LOL! I didn't forget him, I actually no longer count on him at this point.
Could just throw spaghetti at the walls. Draft nothing but DBs from rnd 4 on.surely one of them will be decent
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