Leveon Bell is a Free Agent

[steelreserve]

I’ve said since September (?) that Bell will likely end up with the Colts. They have the cap space to pay him $25 million, and he’d be the perfect weapon for Luck (whose talents are being wasted).

Calling it now, Bell will end up with the Dolphins and it will be for less than $10M a season. Certainly less than $12M. Most of it will be guaranteed and he will point to that as a "win" even though he lost $20M or more overall with the holdout.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Calling it now, Bell will end up with the Dolphins and it will be for less than $10M a season.

I don't necessarily disagree with the Dolphins but I definitely disagree with the less than $10 million/season. people are going to be surprised at how much $ some team will offer him.

[Born2Steel]

Since it seems to be the guaranteed part of contracts that are the cause of a lot of the disgruntlement, who gets the blame for these guys acting out/holding out? If the rest of the NFL is guaranteeing a larger percentage of long term contracts, are the Steelers merely being called out for being ‘cheap’? OR do we have diva players that are just trying to squeeze more guaranteed money out of what will probably be their last NFL contract? It could be some of both or none of the above but I tend to think if the money got right for both sides everyone would right back in love again.

[Mojouw]

Since it seems to be the guaranteed part of contracts that are the cause of a lot of the disgruntlement, who gets the blame for these guys acting out/holding out? If the rest of the NFL is guaranteeing a larger percentage of long term contracts, are the Steelers merely being called out for being ‘cheap’? OR do we have diva players that are just trying to squeeze more guaranteed money out of what will probably be their last NFL contract? It could be some of both or none of the above but I tend to think if the money got right for both sides everyone would right back in love again.

We have a winner! Even the dumbest of these guys can figure out the difference between guaranteed and not guaranteed cash. If not, their agent will certainly explain it to them.

These guys are increasingly aware that they are one violent play away from not making any more $$$ playing in the NFL. So why play for a team that isn't willing to share that risk? Especially when 80% or so of the rest of the league is willing to do so.

That and the more ego driven "star" players in the league are starting to push back hard against the idea that the QB has to make the most money and be catered to the most. We are going to keep seeing versions of this across the league between now and the next CBA. And then the next CBA is going to be a bitter negotiation that could alter things as much as the rookie wage scale did last time.

[steelreserve]

I don't necessarily disagree with the Dolphins but I definitely disagree with the less than $10 million/season. people are going to be surprised at how much $ some team will offer him.

Yeah, you're right. Surprised at how little they offer him!

Sorry, but I just do not see a bidding war erupting for the services of Mr. Bell-Einstein. Maybe he cracks the $10M mark by a little, but ... he is basically the same as the guys who were getting $12M or whatever last year, only with a ton more baggage, a year away from the field, and a lot of liabilities. Whatever he's getting though, it sure ain't 25.

We have a winner! Even the dumbest of these guys can figure out the difference between guaranteed and not guaranteed cash. If not, their agent will certainly explain it to them.

These guys are increasingly aware that they are one violent play away from not making any more $$$ playing in the NFL. So why play for a team that isn't willing to share that risk? Especially when 80% or so of the rest of the league is willing to do so.

That and the more ego driven "star" players in the league are starting to push back hard against the idea that the QB has to make the most money and be catered to the most. We are going to keep seeing versions of this across the league between now and the next CBA. And then the next CBA is going to be a bitter negotiation that could alter things as much as the rookie wage scale did last time.

Regarding the first part of your post - it is precisely because Bell is dumb, and because his agent is also dumb, that he could not figure out the first $40M of his contract offer WAS guaranteed, even in case of catastrophic injury, just because of the horrific cap implications of terminating the contract early. Only a drug suspension would've been likely to change that. Really a case of being too dumb to see what's in your own best interest.

Having said that, the second part of what you said is right on, and unfortunately it overrides the first, because at the end of the day, if you don't have a deal because the person on the other side of the negotiating table is stupid - well, you still don't have a deal. Even if guaranteed money works a little differently in our contracts than elsewhere, if nobody understands that because it takes 15 minutes to grasp and they are only interested in the 30-second sound bite ... we are absolutely at a disadvantage.

Guaranteed money is going to be the big sticking point for the next few years, it is going to get ugly in the next CBA, and it is a shame because there really is no reason not to. Probably the cap rules will get even more convoluted. The one saving grace may be if it causes a prolonged dispute thst leads to Goodell getting fired. One can only hope.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Yeah, you're right. Surprised at how little they offer him!

Sorry, but I just do not see a bidding war erupting for the services of Mr. Bell-Einstein. Maybe he cracks the $10M mark by a little, but ... he is basically the same as the guys who were getting $12M or whatever last year, only with a ton more baggage, a year away from the field, and a lot of liabilities.

Le'Veon will crack the $10M mark by a lot...

[steelreserve]

Le'Veon will crack the $10M mark by a lot...

Sorry, don't think so. If he does, it will not be by a lot.

[teegre]

Calling it now, Bell will end up with the Dolphins and it will be for less than $10M a season. Certainly less than $12M. Most of it will be guaranteed and he will point to that as a "win" even though he lost $20M or more overall with the holdout.

The Dolphins??? How banal. I would have bet that you would have posted something much more clever, like...

“Top Five teams Bell will play for during 2019 season”:

5. Cincinnati Bengals
4. Atlanta Legends
3. San Jose Sabrecats
2. Thunder Down Under (Las Vegas)
1. Steve’s “Basement of Debauchery” fetish dungeon (floor mopper)

[steelreserve]

The Dolphins??? How banal. I would have bet that you would have posted something much more clever, like...

“Top Five teams Bell will play for during 2019 season”:

5. Cincinnati Bengals
4. Atlanta Legends
3. San Jose Sabrecats
2. Thunder Down Under (Las Vegas)
1. Steve’s “Basement of Debauchery” fetish dungeon (floor mopper)

Ok, fine:

1. Oakland Weed Raiders
2. Miami Weed Dolphins
3. New York Weed Jets
4. Kansas City Weed Chiefs
5. CAROLINA SEX PANTHERS

[SteelMember]

Sex Panther is a formidable scent. 60% of the time, it works every time...

[Fire Goodell]

The Dolphins??? How banal. I would have bet that you would have posted something much more clever, like...

“Top Five teams Bell will play for during 2019 season”:

5. Cincinnati Bengals
4. Atlanta Legends
3. San Jose Sabrecats
2. Thunder Down Under (Las Vegas)
1. Steve’s “Basement of Debauchery” fetish dungeon (floor mopper)

Birmingham Iron! For 88k a year

[tube517]

Leave'on is in the wrong sport.


Bryce Harper hit .249 last year and is getting $330 million.

[86WARD]

Leave'on is in the wrong sport.


Bryce Harper hit .249 last year and is getting $330 million.

13 years. $330M. No opt out clauses. As a Phillies fan, I hate that deal. As a Phillies fan, I’m happy to see Bryce Harper on the roster.

[tube517]

13 years. $330M. No opt out clauses. As a Phillies fan, I hate that deal. As a Phillies fan, I’m happy to see Bryce Harper on the roster.

I still remember Magic Johnson signing his 25 year $25 million contract in 1981 and people flipping out over that.

#weareold

[vasteeler]

13 years. $330M. No opt out clauses. As a Phillies fan, I hate that deal. As a Phillies fan, I’m happy to see Bryce Harper on the roster.

As a Philly fan mice elf, I agree with what you said

[86WARD]

As a Philly fan mice elf, I agree with what you said

Although, it’s not my money so who cares!! Lol

[hawaiiansteeler]

13 years. $330M. No opt out clauses.

I wonder what Harper's batting average will be 13 years from now?

[NCSteeler]

I wonder what Harper's batting average will be 13 years from now?

I don't understand baseball. How much value can one player bring to the bottom line? Those owners make more than NFL?

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[86WARD]

I wonder what Harper's batting average will be 13 years from now?

What’s funny is when Harper gets his last paycheck from the Phillies, the Mets will still be paying Bobby Bonilla for another 4 years...

[hawaiiansteeler]

Sorry, don't think so. If he does, it will not be by a lot.

how about if Le'Veon gets less than $12 million/year you win the bet and if he receives over I win?

sound fair?

[hawaiiansteeler]

[steelreserve]

how about if Le'Veon gets less than $12 million/year you win the bet and if he receives over I win?

sound fair?

You got yourself a bet there, fat boy!

[AtlantaDan]

Another cautionary tale for Bell's drive for a Todd Gurley size payday

The question of whether or not Todd Gurley is healthy has been one of the biggest mysteries in the NFL over the past few months and although the team won't come out and say it, there's definitely some concern inside the organization about his left knee....

A team source also said that the team is concerned about the amount of hits that Gurley is taking.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...ing-offseason/

Bell's value is as an every down back. The Gurley concerns about injury along with wear and tear are a good fit for Bell as well.

[hawaiiansteeler]

You got yourself a bet there, fat boy!

I'm actually in pretty good shape and not fat at all, my body fat % was tested last month at 24 Hours Fitness and I'm in the "athletic" category.

but I will drink a couple of beers to celebrate my winning bet with you once Le'Veon signs his ridiculous contract that some team will give him.

[steelreserve]

I'm actually in pretty good shape and not fat at all, my body fat % was tested last month at 24 Hours Fitness and I'm in the "athletic" category.

but I will drink a couple of beers to celebrate my winning bet with you once Le'Veon signs his ridiculous contract that some team will give him.

How about the loser has to make Tom Brady their avatar for a month? Gayest picture you can find.

[hawaiiansteeler]

How about the loser has to make Tom Brady their avatar for a month? Gayest picture you can find.

there's some damn gay Tom Brady pics out there too.

got yourself a deal, never thought I would ever root for Bell-Einstein to get a big contract...

[pczach]

there's some damn gay Tom Brady pics out there too.

got yourself a deal, never thought I would ever root for Bell-Einstein to get a big contract...

What a sellout!!

[86WARD]

there's some damn gay Tom Brady pics out there too.

got yourself a deal, never thought I would ever root for Bell-Einstein to get a big contract...

Witness.

[hawaiiansteeler]

What a sellout!!

would you want a gay Tom Brady avatar pic for a month?

[pczach]

would you want a gay Tom Brady avatar pic for a month?

No.....I most certainly would not!