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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    personally, I would much rather draft a CB in Round 1 (we have a hole the size of the Grand Canyon opposite Joe Haden) or a speedy 3-down ILB that can go sideline to sideline and has coverage skills than a WR or TE in Round 1.


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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Whether the Steelers keep or trade AB or clean out the TE room, the possibility of drafting a WR or TE in this upcoming draft is very real.
    yes, it is.

    since 2005, the Steelers have taken at least one WR in every draft except in 2011 and over the past 30 seasons, they've taken at least one WR in all but four of the drafts.

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Glad you saw this guy and posted his highlights. He was the next one i was going to put on here too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKWVUrdmXyc

    And from WalterFootball:
    2/2/19: Smith was excellent in 2018 as a mismatch weapon for Alabama. He is a shifty route-runner with quickness down the seam, good hands, and the size to be dangerous after the catch. He seems to have one speed and is not on the bigger side of tight ends, hence he is not a top-20-caliber specimen. In 2018, Smith caught 44 passes for 710 yards and seven touchdowns. Smith has upside to grow as he gains more playing experience. Sources say they think Smith is likely to return to Alabama for 2019.

    Smith's father was a first-round pick out of Notre Dame by the Saints in the 1993 NFL Draft. Irv Smith Jr.'s uncle, Edward Smith, also played tight end in the NFL with the Atlanta Falcons, so he has a NFL pedigree that could help him to assimilate to the pro game.

    8/28/18: Smith flashed some real receiving ability in 2017, but Alabama's passing offense really struggled with Jalen Hurts at quarterback. For the year, Smith totaled 14 catches for 127 yards and three touchdowns. He was capable of producing a lot more if he had been given more targets. Smith is the son of Irv Smith Sr., who was a top-20 pick in the 1993 NFL Draft out of Notre Dame.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Glad you saw this guy and posted his highlights. He was the next one i was going to put on here too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKWVUrdmXyc

    And from WalterFootball:
    2/2/19: Smith was excellent in 2018 as a mismatch weapon for Alabama. He is a shifty route-runner with quickness down the seam, good hands, and the size to be dangerous after the catch. He seems to have one speed and is not on the bigger side of tight ends, hence he is not a top-20-caliber specimen. In 2018, Smith caught 44 passes for 710 yards and seven touchdowns. Smith has upside to grow as he gains more playing experience. Sources say they think Smith is likely to return to Alabama for 2019.

    Smith's father was a first-round pick out of Notre Dame by the Saints in the 1993 NFL Draft. Irv Smith Jr.'s uncle, Edward Smith, also played tight end in the NFL with the Atlanta Falcons, so he has a NFL pedigree that could help him to assimilate to the pro game.

    8/28/18: Smith flashed some real receiving ability in 2017, but Alabama's passing offense really struggled with Jalen Hurts at quarterback. For the year, Smith totaled 14 catches for 127 yards and three touchdowns. He was capable of producing a lot more if he had been given more targets. Smith is the son of Irv Smith Sr., who was a top-20 pick in the 1993 NFL Draft out of Notre Dame.


    Hockenson & Fant are R1 picks, Smith could move up to R1 also as said your vid link. I have a hard time thinking 3 TE will be drafted in R1, just hope we can get one of them. Thanks for the vid link.

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    Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa St.

    My favorite receiver in this draft. Size, hands, speed, power... he’s got it all.

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post



    Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa St.

    My favorite receiver in this draft. Size, hands, speed, power... he’s got it all.
    Dang!

    https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/01/...hakeem-butler/
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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

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    Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa St.

    My favorite receiver in this draft. Size, hands, speed, power... he’s got it all.
    That was an insane play. I want to see more on Butler.

    Here is a DK Metcalf look. Guy had a terrible neck injury requiring surgery. He may not get a combine invite because of rehabbing that surgery. If not, he may slide down boards and be available in the mid rounds. (Hope, hope, hope)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9tfZyomswM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdrVCHId7pA

    Info on Metcalf's injury:
    https://www.clarionledger.com/story/...as/1648730002/

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...eceiver-class/

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Hockenson & Fant are R1 picks, Smith could move up to R1 also as said your vid link. I have a hard time thinking 3 TE will be drafted in R1, just hope we can get one of them. Thanks for the vid link.
    I still hope to take an ILB at pick 20. White, Wilson, or Tre Lamar. I see White and Wilson as 1a and 1b, however Lamar has become a dark horse favorite of mine. I think this team's D goes as the LBs go and to me that is a bigger need/want. Somebody is going to fall to pick 52 though. Watch and see.

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Every team needs guys like Hunter Renfrow. He just makes catches when his team needs a catch.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq_3wPpcXa8

    Maybe a "Taysom Hill" type guy for Fichtner to play around with???

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4w5nda6OAo

    Highest floor of mid to late round prospects.

    https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/02/...unter-renfrow/

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    That was an insane play. I want to see more on Butler.

    Here is a DK Metcalf look. Guy had a terrible neck injury requiring surgery. He may not get a combine invite because of rehabbing that surgery. If not, he may slide down boards and be available in the mid rounds. (Hope, hope, hope)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9tfZyomswM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdrVCHId7pA

    Info on Metcalf's injury:
    https://www.clarionledger.com/story/...as/1648730002/

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...eceiver-class/
    dang, there's a real deep threat! He (Metcalf)has no need of two hands and he can power clean 350 pounds. Looks like a Steeler R2 pick, but I still want a TE.

    https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/12/...e-d-k-metcalf/

    https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/01/...freak-athlete/
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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    dang, there's a real deep threat! He (Metcalf)has no need of two hands and he can power clean 350 pounds.

    https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/12/...e-d-k-metcalf/

    https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/01/...freak-athlete/
    I am extremely high on Metcalf. I see the next Randy Moss/Calvin Johnson/Julio Jones in him. I think he can be a real special player in the NFL. The neck injury could force him down draft boards and keep him there until our 2nd/3rd round pick. I doubt it but maybe. One can HOPE.

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I am extremely high on Metcalf. I see the next Randy Moss/Calvin Johnson/Julio Jones in him. I think he can be a real special player in the NFL. The neck injury could force him down draft boards and keep him there until our 2nd/3rd round pick. I doubt it but maybe. One can HOPE.
    He really does look like a special player, going to be a headache for a lot of teams.

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    CJ Conrad, TE, KY. 6'4"-250

    From WalterFootball:Love the comparison to Tamme.
    2/2/19: Conrad recorded 30 receptions in 2018 for 318 yards with three touchdowns. He is a similar player to former Kentucky tight end Jacob Tamme. While he does not have great speed, Conrad has quality hands and is a nice route-runner. He is also a very good blocker and really contributed to running lanes for Benny Snell. In January, Conrad had a solid week of practice at the East-West Shrine.

    8/28/18: According to NFL teams' preseason data provided by team sources, Conrad checks in at 6-foot-4, 250 pounds. He is said to run the 40 in a quick 4.75 seconds. The data has his arm length at 30.38 inches, his hand size at 9.25 inches, and his wing span at 74.13 inches.

    Conrad caught 16 passes for 286 yards and four touchdowns in 2017. His season ended early because of a foot injury that required surgery. Conrad impressed in 2016 even though he had limited opportunities. He caught 19 passes for 262 yards with four touchdowns that season. Conrad has a lot of upside to grow in the years to come.


    https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...ll/1403272002/

    Very much a Jesse James type receiver, but is an excellent run blocker and has good YAC stats.















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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Does anyone know what the "Concerns about his personal makeup" are about? If you can't get Hockenson, go for Irv Smith hopefully in R3. I wouldn't even waste a pick on a TE after R3, that dog don't hunt.


    Noah Fant*, TE, Iowa
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 241.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.65.
    Projected Round (2019): 2-3.

    3/7/19: In 2018, Fant totaled 39 receptions for 519 yards and seven touchdowns. He is an athletic mismatch weapon as a receiver who could develop into a three-down starter in the NFL if he can improve his blocking. Team sources feel that Fant's blocking is weak entering the next level. They also feel that he does not have really natural hands, but he can run. They have concerns about his personal makeup. Fant helped himself with a fast 40 at the combine.

    8/28/18: Iowa has produced a lot of good tight end prospects in recent years, and Fant could keep that trend going after a breakout sophomore season. He hauled in 28 passes for 486 yards with 10 touchdowns in 2017. Fant has size to his frame with the ability to get stronger and become a better blocker for the NFL. He could have three-down starting potential with the ability to contribute as a receiver.

    https://walterfootball.com/draft2019TE.php

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    I'm starting to get the feeling that Noah Fant is the pick at #20. The two premier ILBs will be gone and Colbert won't reach for a CB. Offense is the direction and Fant is an athletic freak that can stretch the field at TE.

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    I'm starting to think an Iowa TE would be a good idea. There won't be an ILB or OLB remaining worth at pick 20 (ILBs like Devin Bush won't last until pick 20), I don't think a WR is needed in round 1 with Moncreif sugned and I am not sure CB is as much of a pressing need as it was on paper, depth is an issue, but a pressing starter might not be a much of an issue with Nelson signed

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    I'm starting to think an Iowa TE would be a good idea. There won't be an ILB or OLB remaining worth at pick 20 (ILBs like Devin Bush won't last until pick 20), I don't think a WR is needed in round 1 with Moncreif sugned and I am not sure CB is as much of a pressing need as it was on paper, depth is an issue, but a pressing starter might not be a much of an issue with Nelson signed
    Not disagreeing but a different thought. What about a top notch CB that can learn the NFL game behind players like Haden and Nelson to be the starter in year 2-3. I won't take CB off the first round board just yet. I read and posted an article yesterday that talks about Trayvon Mullen(Clemson) has moved ahead of Greedy Williams and Deandre Baker on some draft boards. That makes me think right before or right after Byron Murphy. This moves 4-5 CBs into the 1st round conversation. Sitting at 20 almost guarantees one of them to be available. Depending on where Rock Ya Sin, Amani Oruwariye, and Julien Love place on your top 52 could see 7 possible CB picks at 20.

    IMO, Metcalf is the only WR worthy of a top 20 pick and Hockenson is the only TE worthy of a top 20 pick. That said both Fant and Smith will probably be gone by 52. As well as Harmon, Samuels, Butler, or AJ Brown. If we are looking to get one of the 'elite' of the class(my opinion), may have to reach at 20.

    ILBs - what is the need exactly? IMO, it's either White or Wilson at 20. Bush's lack of natural length is too much of a handicap for him to be effective in the role we need. We do not need another run stuffer, IMO.

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post



    Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa St.

    My favorite receiver in this draft. Size, hands, speed, power... he’s got it all.
    This is like a damn comic book hero:

    https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/hakeem-butler

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Hockenson and Kaden Smith are the best TE available. If Hock is there at 20, hard to pass that up. Especially when glassman McDonald is you’re main option.

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Tomlin meets with Hunter Renfrow and parents.



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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    WR Hunter Renfrow Says Steelers Remind Him Of Clemson; Compares Tomlin To Swinney

    By Dave Bryan
    Posted on March 17, 2019

    The Pittsburgh Steelers had a large contingent at the Clemson pro day this past week and while most of their focus was probably on several of that school’s top defensive players, they certainly didn’t ignore the top offensive on display during the event, wide receiver Hunter Renfrow.

    Renfrow confirmed on Saturday from his football camp at Nettles Park in Clemson that he spoke with Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin during his pro day last week. When asked if he could reveal what all Tomlin had to say to him during his pro day, Renfrow obliged.

    to read rest of article:

    https://steelersdepot.com/2019/03/wr...in-to-swinney/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    This is like a damn comic book hero:

    https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/hakeem-butler
    Indeed... a total freak.

    Playing-wise: he’s a human highlight reel.

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    Steelers to meet with sleeper prospect WR Miles Boykin

    By: Curt Popejoy | March 20, 2019

    No team is better at finding mid-round wide receiver in the draft than the Pittsburgh Steelers. Guys like Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders and Antonio Brown are just the highlights of how well the Steelers can find and cultivate receiver talent.

    The 2019 NFL draft could be the next opportunity for Pittsburgh to bring in a sleeper receiver and turn them into a star. Despite using second-round picks in consecutive seasons to draft wide receivers, the Steelers must go back to the well in 2019 after the Antonio Brown trade.

    A prime candidate for the Steelers this year is Notre Dame’s Miles Boykin. According to reports, the Steelers will meet with Boykin and this is a great thing for the Steelers.

    Most casual fans found out who Boykin was when he had a monstrous scouting combine.

    to read rest of article:

    https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/20...-miles-boykin/

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    Steelers to meet with sleeper prospect WR Miles Boykin

    By: Curt Popejoy | March 20, 2019

    No team is better at finding mid-round wide receiver in the draft than the Pittsburgh Steelers. Guys like Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders and Antonio Brown are just the highlights of how well the Steelers can find and cultivate receiver talent.

    The 2019 NFL draft could be the next opportunity for Pittsburgh to bring in a sleeper receiver and turn them into a star. Despite using second-round picks in consecutive seasons to draft wide receivers, the Steelers must go back to the well in 2019 after the Antonio Brown trade.

    A prime candidate for the Steelers this year is Notre Dame’s Miles Boykin. According to reports, the Steelers will meet with Boykin and this is a great thing for the Steelers.

    Most casual fans found out who Boykin was when he had a monstrous scouting combine.

    to read rest of article:

    https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/20...-miles-boykin/
    I’m all in on Miles Boykin.

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    Steelers to meet with sleeper prospect WR Miles Boykin

    By: Curt Popejoy | March 20, 2019

    No team is better at finding mid-round wide receiver in the draft than the Pittsburgh Steelers. Guys like Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders and Antonio Brown are just the highlights of how well the Steelers can find and cultivate receiver talent.

    The 2019 NFL draft could be the next opportunity for Pittsburgh to bring in a sleeper receiver and turn them into a star. Despite using second-round picks in consecutive seasons to draft wide receivers, the Steelers must go back to the well in 2019 after the Antonio Brown trade.

    A prime candidate for the Steelers this year is Notre Dame’s Miles Boykin. According to reports, the Steelers will meet with Boykin and this is a great thing for the Steelers.

    Most casual fans found out who Boykin was when he had a monstrous scouting combine.

    to read rest of article:

    https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/20...-miles-boykin/
    Your 3rd round pick

    Look at his SPARQ

    https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/miles-boykin

    I'm extremely intrigued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Tomlin meets with Hunter Renfrow and parents.


    I'm going to miss watching him on saturdays.

    Hard worker, catches everything, big game performer.

    When I hear the work clutch player, I use to think Michael Jordan, I still do but Renfrow also comes to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    So how does that answer my question? What makes him worth a #20 pick? I've never seen him play so it's a fair question. Ne never dominated in college and had 2 games over 100 yards. He might be the next Gronk, so somebody tell me why if he's being touted as a possible pick.
    Think Heath Miller
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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    I would not be surprised by a WR pick early and another WR pick late. Something like a freak early (Hakeem Butler) followed by a “clutch” guy later (Sills/Renfrow).

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    Re: WRs and TEs thread

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    I would not be surprised by a WR pick early and another WR pick late. Something like a freak early (Hakeem Butler) followed by a “clutch” guy later (Sills/Renfrow).
    I’m hoping for that actually. Keep throwing competition on the pile.

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