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    Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Was a big fan of his coming out of college. Played well this year for coming off a knee injury. Hicks would be a immediate upgrade over anyone we have in the locker room right now.

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    He would be a great addition. But since he is the starting MLB on a team with championship aspirations, I highly doubt he makes it to the open market. There are many really interesting "projected" FA's that would make the Steelers roster better, but most of those guys are not getting to market. Between now and whenever FA starts, their current teams will resign them.

    But, as long as we are talking, Hicks and Clowney would fix this defense right up. Toss in a Ronald Darby at CB and now we really got something!

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Can we simply cut Dupree now and use his $9M to at least open talks with some of the top end FAs?

    As for Hicks, looked him up and he does look like a great addition when healthy. A little smallish but good stats in a 4-3 defense. I don’t trust his durability enough to offer what he would probably cost. But that’s me way over here, Colbert’s not listening to me.

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Can we simply cut Dupree now and use his $9M to at least open talks with some of the top end FAs?
    I called this when it happened: The minute we picked up that option, we were going to talk ourselves into paying the $10 million.

    omg, but this is FINALLY going to be his year and then $10M is a good deal, trust me guys!

    omg but who else are we going to get? Free agents and trades don't exist and $10M in cap space gets you nothing!

    The draft is the only way to build a team, but given our track record, who are we going to draft that's better than Dupree??? He's nearly average! We need the #1 overall pick to do better! There is no way to improve from Dupree and he will be our starting OLB for the next 25 years because - it could be worse!

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    March 13th is when each team has to have 51 players signed that fit under the salary cap and 4:00 PM on that same day, teams can begin to sign FA's.

    Prior to that, almost any projection of the guys on the market is rampant speculation. In theory, no negotiations with another team's player can take place until 4:00 PM EST on March 13th.

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Top 25 NFL free agents of 2019: Defenders dominate rankings

    By Gregg Rosenthal
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    Published: Jan. 16, 2019

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...inate-rankings

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    March 13th is when each team has to have 51 players signed that fit under the salary cap and 4:00 PM on that same day, teams can begin to sign FA's.

    Prior to that, almost any projection of the guys on the market is rampant speculation. In theory, no negotiations with another team's player can take place until 4:00 PM EST on March 13th.
    This is why there's always a flurry of big-name free agent signings at 4:01 EST ... they really work hard to get those deals done quickly! It's amazing how fast they can figure out all the years and dollar amounts and guaranteed money, go back and forth several times, field competing offers and pick out the best one, consider which team the player would fit in best on, get all parties to agree to it, figure out the salary cap implications, run it past the lawyers, and have everyone sign it. All in a few minutes! Contract negotiations must be super easy!
    See you Space Cowboy ...

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Can we simply cut Dupree now and use his $9M to at least open talks with some of the top end FAs?

    As for Hicks, looked him up and he does look like a great addition when healthy. A little smallish but good stats in a 4-3 defense. I don’t trust his durability enough to offer what he would probably cost. But that’s me way over here, Colbert’s not listening to me.
    Nope...Rooney already said he’s looking forward to Dupree further progressing...

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Nope...Rooney already said he’s looking forward to Dupree further progressing...
    should be fairly easy for Dupree to do...

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    I'll take CJ Mosely........

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    I'll take CJ Mosely........
    I'll take Ryan Shazier.....

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Nope...Rooney already said he’s looking forward to Dupree further progressing...
    I think Dupree plays great as a containment specialist with some cover skills. He simply is not a pass rusher or he would have shown more by now. I think that makes him worth much less than what he will get paid next season if he stays. I don't know if he can be cut, and then re-signed at a less rate over time, but without the possibility of reaching double digit sacks he's simply not a $9M OLB.

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I think Dupree plays great as a containment specialist with some cover skills. He simply is not a pass rusher or he would have shown more by now. I think that makes him worth much less than what he will get paid next season if he stays. I don't know if he can be cut, and then re-signed at a less rate over time, but without the possibility of reaching double digit sacks he's simply not a $9M OLB.
    ”Plays great as a containment specialist.”

    Yeah, maybe a play or two here or there, but from what I’ve seen, I don’t think his level of play makes him a specialist at anything.

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    You get an OLB... you get an OLB... everyone gets an OLB!!!

    DeMarcus Lawrence
    Jadaveon Clowney
    Dee Ford
    Frank Clark
    Preston Smith
    Za’Darius Smith
    Brandon Graham

    CJ Mosley would fill a need.

    Tomlin loved Landon Collins and tried to trade up for him (but, couldn’t get the deal done). I’d bet he garners a long, hard look from Colbert.

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    I'll take Ryan Shazier.....

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    You get an OLB... you get an OLB... everyone gets an OLB!!!

    DeMarcus Lawrence
    Jadaveon Clowney
    Dee Ford
    Frank Clark
    Preston Smith
    Za’Darius Smith
    Brandon Graham

    CJ Mosley would fill a need.

    Tomlin loved Landon Collins and tried to trade up for him (but, couldn’t get the deal done). I’d bet he garners a long, hard look from Colbert.
    I'll bet not a single one of those cats hits free agency.

    Edmunds killed Tomlins Collins crush.


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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    The Ravens are already working on a deal for Mosley.

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    The Ravens are already working on a deal for Mosley.


    They don't need Mosley.....they have Matthew Thomas.

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    You get an OLB... you get an OLB... everyone gets an OLB!!!

    DeMarcus Lawrence
    Jadaveon Clowney
    Dee Ford
    Frank Clark
    Preston Smith
    Za’Darius Smith
    Brandon Graham

    CJ Mosley would fill a need.

    Tomlin loved Landon Collins and tried to trade up for him (but, couldn’t get the deal done). I’d bet he garners a long, hard look from Colbert.
    DeMarcus Lawrence would be a GREAT FA signing. He's listed as a DE though so unless we go to a 4-3, would he replace Tuitt? I have no idea what it would cost to get any of these guys but Colbert seems to find money. He also seems to make deals for guys that bring less fanfare.

    Darryl Roberts(Jets) is about as big a splash we would probably make as a boundary corner or upgrade FS. Has good defense numbers and tackles very well.

    Still wondering what the issue is with Marcus Cooper. Was a FA CB last season and we brought him in for a meeting but he ended up signing with the Bears. The Bears let him go to Detroit late in the season. The guy is an unbelievable athlete with outside CB skills, size and speed. He was near the top of my FA wishlist last offseason. I don't find 'red flags' anywhere, so makes me wonder why he doesn't stick with any one team.

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    They don't need Mosley.....they have Matthew Thomas.
    Lol.

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    https://steelersdepot.com/2019/02/ke...ier-last-year/
    I agree Mr Colbert, let’s sign Jordan Hicks

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    You can’t replace that type of athlete.

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    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I think Dupree plays great as a containment specialist with some cover skills. He simply is not a pass rusher or he would have shown more by now. I think that makes him worth much less than what he will get paid next season if he stays. I don't know if he can be cut, and then re-signed at a less rate over time, but without the possibility of reaching double digit sacks he's simply not a $9M OLB.
    Maybe you missed the Jax playoff game, but Dupree was almost the sole reason we could not stop the run due to his complete lack of containment, he continually took himself out of containment allowing Jax to rush his side all game long.

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    Maybe you missed the Jax playoff game, but Dupree was almost the sole reason we could not stop the run due to his complete lack of containment, he continually took himself out of containment allowing Jax to rush his side all game long.
    I did not miss that game. Or the Bears game. Or the Dolphins one the year before. Dupree’s lack of holding contain in those games cost us big time. That is STILL his primary role. I think he does a decent job at it most of the time. Some OL are just better than others and defeat him. All that said, my actual point is Bud is not a pass rusher and therefore is not worth pass rusher money. I think that $9M is too much for him.

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    They don't need Mosley.....they have Matthew Thomas.
    You got that right! The next great NFL ILB. The John Kuhn of Steelers ILB's.

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I did not miss that game. Or the Bears game. Or the Dolphins one the year before. Dupree’s lack of holding contain in those games cost us big time. That is STILL his primary role. I think he does a decent job at it most of the time. Some OL are just better than others and defeat him. All that said, my actual point is Bud is not a pass rusher and therefore is not worth pass rusher money. I think that $9M is too much for him.
    Agreed

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Jordan Hicks/Philadelphia Eagles: Here’s my cleanup hitter for you guys. Inside linebacker isn’t a great class. Anthony Barr wants too much andKwon Alexander is coming off a torn ACL and probably will re-up with Tampa Bay.
    Hicks makes the most sense. Above all, he’s a playmaker. When he’s in the lineup, the guy is a force. Since breaking into the league in 2015, he’s one of only three linebackers with 7+ interceptions and 10+ pass deflections in 40 or fewer starts. The other two? Deion Jones andRyan Shazier.
    This is a Steelers’ defense desperate for turnovers and he can provide it. I know health is a risk. He’s played all 16 games just once in four years and missed four games in 2018 with a calf injury. Medical concerns date back to his days at Texas. But I’m willing to take that risk, especially on a one or two year deal where he can prove his health and look long-term after.
    Philly Voice, which I know is probably a cheesteak in front of a keyboard and not the end-all, projects Hicks to take a one year, $7 million deal. I’d do that.
    Here’s the bottom line. When he’s available, he creates splash plays no one else on this roster has been able to provide. Couple clips of the moments he’s capable of making. In order.
    1. Zone drop, read the QB”s eyes, drive on the TE stick and break the throw up
    2. Cover 2 turn, reads the TE sitting, drives on the ball and smacks it away
    3. Zone drop, follow the QBs eyes, diving INT on a tipped ball


    All plays we’ve seen Shazier make before. Hicks is capable of the same.
    He’s an easy mover capable of flowing against zone schemes and turning the play back inside. And when he was active, the dude didn’t come off the field. From Weeks 1 through 10, he logged every single snap and was at 91% before getting hurt in Week 11.
    Big fan of Hicks and would be thrilled if the Steelers nabbed him. Will the Eagles keep him before he hits the market? That’s a serious question.

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    Sign the man

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    word is Dee Ford is on the block for a 2nd rd pick ....
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    word is Dee Ford is on the block for a 2nd rd pick ....
    Artie Burns and a 3.

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    Re: Jordan Hicks FA ILB

    While I like Hicks, I would rather us FA a CB (Roby or Desir) and move up to draft White. Then take a tall fast WR with our second.

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