why not just shoot me now ?
why not just shoot me now ?
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now
Tomlin will take the easy way out and just not renew Butlers contract at the end of 2019 when we are all sitting here in the same position as we are now...
Originally Posted by Dwinsgames
Tomlin is busy watching The Flow of his contract.
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I'm hoping Kevin Colbert adds so much talent to this defense in the draft and free agency that not even Butler can screw it up.
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I never thought for one minute that Tomlin would fire Butler. I think that in many ways Tomlin lives in denial. I also think he is an extremely poor evaluator of talent - players and coaches. I don't trust Tomlin to put the right players on the field and I don't trust him to keep the right coaches. I'm not sure what he actually does well, although he gets lots of credit for never being worse than 8-8.
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Lets be clear thinking. 8 & 8 , Winning the division or just getting into the play offs and getting bounced is "NOT THE STANDARD" in Pittsburgh. I am like Desert Steel and Im not sure what he does well. I do know what he does badly .
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Can't fire Butler when Tomlin was also calling the plays. Who knows it may have been Tomlin putting linebackers on #1 WR
to be 100% fair though, the defense has improved this year. danny smith is the guy that really needs to go however
Counterpoint: The strategy to shut down the Carolina Panthers "triple option" offense was pure genius.
Just out of curiosity, who gets credit for that? Tomlin or Butler?
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
Bump? I never got an answer to this.
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
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Obviously Cowher.
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Are you serious? You expect people on this forum to give credit to our coaches? If you read the posts in most of the threads the Steelers ONLY win win the players take it upon themselves to win in spite of the coaching. And that is ONLY when the players are not being selfish divas and me first millennials. There is simply no way a team of this culture could possibly put together a winning gameplan. So no, you will receive no honest or well thought out answers, only snarky responses. Welcome to the new Steelers Universe.
IDK lots of folks say we shouldn't guess or comment on something we don't know. I can't imagine anyone on this board has any idea who is building the game plans each week but I would suspect a big part of the Carolina game was typical road team play on a Thursday, and a small notice to the fact that the mighty Panthers went on a horrendous slide because Newton played hurt
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No, that wasn't the case at all. The defensive scheme against Carolina was deliberate, and a radical departure from preceding and subsequent Steelers defenses. The Panthers were using 3 running threats to keep defenses in a reactive scheme, and it was working up until the Steelers game.
The Steelers *intentionally* over- committed on Newton personally, largely ignoring the other threats even when it burned them. The strategy was brilliant and simple: If Newton presented himself as a possible running threat, nail him... even if you're not sure he has the ball. Rinse and repeat as necessary until the Panthers get the hint and are forced to protect him. Once that happens, the Panthers are forced into a conventional scheme where Newton isn't so hot.
This isn't a mode that the Steelers operated in before (or after) this one specific game. Likewise the other games mentioned upstream. The Steelers defense "morphed" to control the opposing offense, showing schemes that weren't on film and couldn't be planned for.
Somebody somewhere was saying "here is how we beat these effers" and then spent the week practicing a defense that wasn't in the play book. I don't know if that "somebody" was Tomlin or Butler, but whoever it was deserves credit for the successes as well as blame for the failures.
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
And the NE game as well. Also the Falcons gameplan. All three were excellent. I suspect those game plans are the result of Tomlin exerting influence on Butler.
Why the Chargers plan was so insistent on keeping LBs on the slot receiver makes zero sense when you can look at the other games I listed and the plan was so well conceived.
Who the hell knows. Do you have insight as to who is building each game plan? Hey even a blind squirrel can find a nut every once in a while.
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Lolley: Tomlin is expected to be finished with staff changes. If so what was really changed? I mean really?
2 positional coaches whose contracts had expired were not renewed.
sweeping changes...
Tomlin continues to Unleash Hell in January!
Nothing. It will be a repeat of this last season, but worse.
Hater = Realist
Nothing will change on the Steelers until Tomlin is gone. As long as the "No Losing Seasons" participation trophy is there. It will take a stretch of awfulness for true changes to be made.
2019 will be a washout, and so will 2020.
I am asking myself if Rooney is just willing to enjoy to the good & opulent life of an NFL owner and be content with maintaining personnel stability go with the flow. I just hope there are serious & intelligent conversations going on behind closed doors. There is still time t make changes & we will just have to wait & see.
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He hasn’t demonstrated anything more than that to me since he took over.
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Maybe they could also add a FT psychiatrist!
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The standard is the standard.
As long as Tomlin is here this team will never sniff a superbowl again.
Give a lib a fish--he eats for a day
Teach a lib to fish--he is back the next day asking for more free fish.
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I'm dangerously close to checking out in the realm of casual fan .
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.....and you’re telling us why?
Danny Smith's Steelers special teams:
• 27 penalties. Most in the NFL.
• 257 penalty yards. Most in the NFL.
• 29th in punting average.
• Least accurate kicker. Missed the most extra points.
But he is employed !!
Mike Tomlin knows excellence when he sees it ......
( this message is DRIPPING with sarcasm )
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now
Pretty amazing that these stats scream out incompetence to us, and yet he retains his job.
To be fair, can’t blame the chewer for Boswell’s poor performance.
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