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    Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    why not just shoot me now ?


    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Tomlin will take the easy way out and just not renew Butlers contract at the end of 2019 when we are all sitting here in the same position as we are now...

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    I'm hoping Kevin Colbert adds so much talent to this defense in the draft and free agency that not even Butler can screw it up.

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    I never thought for one minute that Tomlin would fire Butler. I think that in many ways Tomlin lives in denial. I also think he is an extremely poor evaluator of talent - players and coaches. I don't trust Tomlin to put the right players on the field and I don't trust him to keep the right coaches. I'm not sure what he actually does well, although he gets lots of credit for never being worse than 8-8.

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Can't fire Butler when Tomlin was also calling the plays. Who knows it may have been Tomlin putting linebackers on #1 WR

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    to be 100% fair though, the defense has improved this year. danny smith is the guy that really needs to go however

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Counterpoint: The strategy to shut down the Carolina Panthers "triple option" offense was pure genius.
    Just out of curiosity, who gets credit for that? Tomlin or Butler?
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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Tomlin will take the easy way out and just not renew Butlers contract at the end of 2019 when we are all sitting here in the same position as we are now...
    Tomlin is busy watching The Flow of his contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    I never thought for one minute that Tomlin would fire Butler. I think that in many ways Tomlin lives in denial. I also think he is an extremely poor evaluator of talent - players and coaches. I don't trust Tomlin to put the right players on the field and I don't trust him to keep the right coaches. I'm not sure what he , actually does well, although he gets lots of credit for never being worse than 8-8.
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    Lets be clear thinking. 8 & 8 , Winning the division or just getting into the play offs and getting bounced is "NOT THE STANDARD" in Pittsburgh. I am like Desert Steel and Im not sure what he does well. I do know what he does badly .

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Lolley: Tomlin is expected to be finished with staff changes. If so what was really changed? I mean really?

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    Nothing will change on the Steelers until Tomlin is gone. As long as the "No Losing Seasons" participation trophy is there. It will take a stretch of awfulness for true changes to be made.

    2019 will be a washout, and so will 2020.

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Lolley: Tomlin is expected to be finished with staff changes. If so what was really changed? I mean really?
    2 positional coaches whose contracts had expired were not renewed.

    sweeping changes...

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    2 positional coaches whose contracts had expired were not renewed.

    sweeping changes...
    Tomlin continues to Unleash Hell in January!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Lolley: Tomlin is expected to be finished with staff changes. If so what was really changed? I mean really?
    Nothing. It will be a repeat of this last season, but worse.
    Hater = Realist

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    I am asking myself if Rooney is just willing to enjoy to the good & opulent life of an NFL owner and be content with maintaining personnel stability go with the flow. I just hope there are serious & intelligent conversations going on behind closed doors. There is still time t make changes & we will just have to wait & see.

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    The standard is the standard.
    As long as Tomlin is here this team will never sniff a superbowl again.


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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    I'm dangerously close to checking out in the realm of casual fan .

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    I am asking myself if Rooney is just willing to enjoy to the good & opulent life of an NFL owner and be content with maintaining personnel stability go with the flow. I just hope there are serious & intelligent conversations going on behind closed doors. There is still time t make changes & we will just have to wait & see.
    He hasn’t demonstrated anything more than that to me since he took over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    2 positional coaches whose contracts had expired were not renewed.

    sweeping changes...
    Maybe they could also add a FT psychiatrist!

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Danny Smith's Steelers special teams:
    • 27 penalties. Most in the NFL.
    • 257 penalty yards. Most in the NFL.
    • 29th in punting average.
    • Least accurate kicker. Missed the most extra points.

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    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Danny Smith's Steelers special teams:
    • 27 penalties. Most in the NFL.
    • 257 penalty yards. Most in the NFL.
    • 29th in punting average.
    • Least accurate kicker. Missed the most extra points.
    But he is employed !!

    Mike Tomlin knows excellence when he sees it ......

    ( this message is DRIPPING with sarcasm )
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCSteeler View Post
    I'm dangerously close to checking out in the realm of casual fan .

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    .....and you’re telling us why?

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    I think this team is in need of a 4-12 season to finally shake things up and start making necessary changes to possibly open up the door for the Super Bowl. It's clear one-and-done playoff exits and barely missing the playoffs are allowing for the status quo to continue. 2 assistant coaches are just let go, one of them who was good are you kidding me? Keith Butler not only doesn't know how to scheme but doesn't know which players aren't on IR at any given moment, and he keeps his job? Danny Smith who should have been fired 5 years ago still has a job? I guess Art is content with keeping the Steelers in the massive underachiever phase while Tomlin coasts off of a Super Bowl win 10 years ago and doing just enough not to have a losing season. Mike Brown at least finally got rid of his massively underachieving head coach and stopped settling for the sad state his team had remained in for years. Sad this team can't seem to do that

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Counterpoint: The strategy to shut down the Carolina Panthers "triple option" offense was pure genius.
    Just out of curiosity, who gets credit for that? Tomlin or Butler?
    Bump? I never got an answer to this.
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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Danny Smith's Steelers special teams:
    • 27 penalties. Most in the NFL.
    • 257 penalty yards. Most in the NFL.
    • 29th in punting average.
    • Least accurate kicker. Missed the most extra points.
    Pretty amazing that these stats scream out incompetence to us, and yet he retains his job.

    To be fair, can’t blame the chewer for Boswell’s poor performance.

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Quote Originally Posted by FrancoLambert View Post
    Pretty amazing that these stats scream out incompetence to us, and yet he retains his job.

    To be fair, can’t blame the chewer for Boswell’s poor performance.
    Sure you can. He should be able to get Boswell back on track if he’s a good coach. It’s not like Boswell had this type of history in his past where it couldn’t be fixed. Since I love Danny Smith so much, I’ll go further and say he’s the reason Scobee was trash when in Pittsburgh...lol.

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    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Counterpoint: The strategy to shut down the Carolina Panthers "triple option" offense was pure genius.
    Just out of curiosity, who gets credit for that? Tomlin or Butler?
    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Bump? I never got an answer to this.
    Obviously Cowher.

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Bump? I never got an answer to this.
    Are you serious? You expect people on this forum to give credit to our coaches? If you read the posts in most of the threads the Steelers ONLY win win the players take it upon themselves to win in spite of the coaching. And that is ONLY when the players are not being selfish divas and me first millennials. There is simply no way a team of this culture could possibly put together a winning gameplan. So no, you will receive no honest or well thought out answers, only snarky responses. Welcome to the new Steelers Universe.

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    Re: Looking like Butler may be here to stay :(

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Bump? I never got an answer to this.
    And the NE game as well. Also the Falcons gameplan. All three were excellent. I suspect those game plans are the result of Tomlin exerting influence on Butler.

    Why the Chargers plan was so insistent on keeping LBs on the slot receiver makes zero sense when you can look at the other games I listed and the plan was so well conceived.

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