Originally Posted by fansince'76
An even better idea would be to promote him to Head Coach!
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An even better idea would be to promote him to Head Coach!
Has there been any word on the status of Butler or Smith?
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Unfortunately, nothing on that at all.
What qualities would Munch bring to the table?
OL coaching and? It wasn’t good last time. He doesn’t coordinate offense or defense. He doesn’t build rosters.
I just don’t see it. But I don’t run NFL teams.
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Tomlin was a DBs coach with one year as a coordinator for a 6-10 team
John Harbaugh was a special teams coach with one final year as DBs coach for the Eagles
Both turned out OK after allegedly hitting their job interviews out of the park
Teams may want a HC who can communicate with players (the Steelers OL loves Munchak and has been drama free unlike the rest of the offense) and can hire an OC & DC who can do their jobs without worrying about the HC always looming over their shoulder. Just my best guess he could be a fit for an organization where the front office has a lot of clout (such as Elway in Denver)
Add to that there are once again a lot of vacancies without a lot of obvious candidates (for example Lincoln Riley got a new deal at Oklahoma) and I can see why teams are at least kicking the tires on Munchak by giving interviews
You’re not wrong. I just don’t get it. All the recent HC hires that have dramatically improved teams brought either a defensive or most commonly an offensive system. Munch has to hit two hires out of the park. Odds are not in your favor there. Difillipo was a universally lauded hire in Minnesota and he absolutely stunk.
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Agreed Munchak would not be my first choice but when you have 8 vacancies not everyone gets their first choice.
FWIW this article on former HCs most likely to get another shot at HC does not include Munchak (but does include BA)
It’s weird out there, a lot of familiar names are going to pop up again and Bruce Arians likes all the jobs.
With the absence of a star college coach like David Shaw, Lincoln Riley or Brian Kelly ascending to the professional ranks for now (more on that down below), the prevailing theme during the mad interview dash so far has been assessing the crop of second-time candidates. Two reasons why: First, because there isn’t a massive wave of qualified first-time candidates out there, and second, because there’s usually a mistake or two made when nearly a quarter of the league gets fired at once.
So let’s size up that group in a top-five ranking...
1. Vance Joseph...
2. Mike McCarthy...
3. Josh McDaniels...
4. Adam Gase...
T5. Todd Bowles...
T5. Bruce Arians
https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/01/02/nf...-mike-mccarthy
I do not get Vance Joseph leading that list since I never figured out why Denver hired him and could certainly see Munchak being hired over Joseph, Bowles or BA.
Yeah, I don't get Joseph, Gase or Bowles getting HC gig, but somebody is gonna give at least 2 of them a shot. BA has a track record and I can see it, but not sure the Browns will go that way.I do not get Vance Joseph leading that list since I never figured out why Denver hired him and could certainly see Munchak being hired over Joseph, Bowles or BA.
Gase lost the locker room and hitched his wagon to Tannehill. I give him 3 strikes for those moves and he seems like a lame duck.
Munchak too I think is a good teacher, but not so much of a leader IMO. He may get another shot just because of the market. On that note, Stacy Seareals just got let go as O line coach at Miami FL. He is one of the better O line coaches in college and has coached guys like Andrew Witworth, Stephen Peterman and Cordy Glenn. He has never coached in the NFL, but was drafted by the Chargers after he finished his career at Auburn when he blocked for Bo Jackson.
Munchak had garbage at QB in Tennessee. His players loved him... and played hard for him. It’s like Chuck Noll said when he arrived in Pittsburgh: “You guy play your hearts out... but, you’re just not any good.”
I do not want Munchak yo leave, but I wish him the very best if he does. Furthermore, his teams will play hard and be well-coached, but (like most coaches) his QB will ultimately determine his win-loss record.
As far as Tomlin goes... In Tampa Bay, he turned a good secondary into a championship-level secondary. (Too bad he cannot do the same here.) In Minnesota, he had the #1 ranked defense on a team that was 6-10 (think about how difficult it is to rank #1 on defense when on a losing team). But, Yes, Tomlin’s performance as a coach got him in the room, while his interview got him the job.
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Wherever Munch goes, I'll be a fan of that team (sans NE and Balt).
Me, too.
“I” want to play for him.
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Seriously, there's no way that Gase or Jospeh even sniff a HC job. Bowles is a bit of a stretch, but possible.
Munchak is a reportedly great teacher...but the scouting report on YOU is that you are a heavy legged waist bender that would rather sum up your position than establish one. YOU have no chance sir.Me, too.
“I” want to play for him.
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A bad market for owners hiring coaches can be a good market for those who might be marginal candidates in other seasons
Even though he was fired on Monday morning by the Dolphins, Adam Gase is going to be a hot coaching candidate in a year where there are lots of openings and not a ton of really high-profile, viable candidates for those jobs. To wit: he's already getting buzz in both Denver and Cleveland as the next head coach in those spots.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...in-owners-ear/
Vance Joseph, fired Monday by the Denver Broncos after back-to-back losing seasons, will be interviewed by the Bengals on Thursday and Friday, according to reports.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/spo...do/2463760002/
Joseph at least will be getting interviews to cover Rooney Rule obligations
And people wonder why there are bad teams that are consistently bad. Just recycling other franchises mistakes because they have the label as "NFL Coach".
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Ok. I feel better now.
That being said, the Steelers will fire Butler and hire some "tried and true" DC candidate who will trot out the same defensive schemes that are currently being gouged across the NFL landscape.
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Munchak is a reportedly great teacher...but the scouting report on YOU is that you are a heavy legged waist bender that would rather sum up your position than establish one. YOU have no chance sir.
"With love, with patience, and with Faith
....She'll make her way" ~ Natalie Merchant
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Munchak is a reportedly great teacher...but the scouting report on YOU is that you are a heavy legged waist bender that would rather sum up your position than establish one. YOU have no chance sir.
Some think he can make the move to defense. He would be another camp body to compete with Chickillo for a roster spot. Teegre has a good motor and will get hustle and cleanup sacks but was tight in the hips and was incapable of the necessary bend and body lean at the edge with no lower body explosion to consistently get to the quarterback. He's projected as a special teams player and a spot OLB in a 3-4.
My gut says he doesn't make the 53.
I might have an older scouting report, but it said Teegre has been beaten down by the demands of parenting and his current body lean is only fitting for the sofa, while the latest lower body explosiveness came from eating a fish taco that might have used old fish.
I hope your intel is better and he has a shot at playing for coach Munchak, but he is a long shot imo.
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We should dedicate an entire thread to breaking down teegre's scouting report for every position on the field!
Pffft... I am a beast with suddenness & glide.
You lack social media skills.
It’s not my fault. I learned to play SS from Cam “Dirty D!ck” Thomas. They only transitioned me to OLB, because I wanted to wear 95.
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That’s only because I call it a pound sign instead of a hashtag.
Hey Wait a minute here...I thought you were a certain GM whose playing days are well behind him...something fishy going on here.
I’m out as a GM.It’s time for a comeback as a player.
Wow! those are two qualities that translate into awesomeness. Now tell me that you went to some great school like Shippensburgh College and you might be 2019 UDFA to watch.
teegre = "Leon"I’m out as a GM.
Northeastern South Panhandle West Virginia College of Beauty & OptometryWow! those are two qualities that translate into awesomeness. Now tell me that you went to some great school like Shippensburgh College and you might be 2019 UDFA to watch.
I won the MVP for the Bill Cosby “Muwah” Jell-O Pudding Pop Bowl
So true. Leon cant do everything.teegre = "Leon"
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On the issue of how the Denver offense would operate, linked article recycles the rumor Elway is trying to bring back Gary Kubiak as OC to work with whoever is hired as HC
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He's probably glad to get out of Pittsburgh with all the BS going on.
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