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    Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    The Patriots knew the risk when they sent a fifth-round pick (and got back a seventh-round pick) for former Browns receiver Josh Gordon. And there was a reward, at least for part of the season.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ceiving-corps/

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    https://deadspin.com/that-might-be-a...eer-1831229918


    Possible suspension again. He's done.



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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    What a waste of talent... and more importantly, life. I pray that he gets it together.

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    https://deadspin.com/that-might-be-a...eer-1831229918


    Possible suspension again. He's done.
    Bringing in that problem did not work out as well as some of Belichick's other reclamation projects

    Hope Gordon saved some of his earnings and can get out of his substance abuse vortex

    Upcoming end of career might have been a factor in Gordon being a non-factor last Sunday at Heinz (1 catch/2 targets/19 yards)

    IMO bigger waste of a career than Bryant - unlike Bryant being about potential, Gordon had a massive second year (87 catches/led league with 1646 yards) in 2013 on a 4-12 Browns team before his problems wrecked his career

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/2013.htm



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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    What has Joshy boy been testing positive for? Pot, PED?
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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    So much for the "Patriot Way's" ability to get troubled players to turn themselves around...

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    Quote Originally Posted by smokin3000gt View Post
    What has Joshy boy been testing positive for? Pot, PED?
    No PEDs as defined under the CBA but Gordon did ingest substances pregame to presumably enhance his performance. Substance abuse suspensions for marijuana and old school alcohol

    A timeline of Josh Gordon’s history with substance abuse and suspensions

    Gordon told GQ he had a pregame ritual where he would take bong rips and/or shots of Grand Marnier or whiskey before kick-off. “I would drink probably like half a glass, or a couple shots to try and warm my system up,” he said. “To get the motor running. That’s what I would do for games.”
    Gordon estimated he had something in his system for “probably every game of [his] career,” including those in college....

    Prior to the start of the 2013 season, Gordon was suspended two games for violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy....

    Prior to the start of the 2014 season, Gordon was arrested for a DWI in Raleigh, N.C. According to police, he was pulled over just before 3 a.m. for driving 50 mph in a 35 mph zone. His blood-alcohol level was .09 — .01 over the legal limit. Two months after Gordon’s arrest, the NFL announced he had been suspended the entire 2014 season for a failed drug test (marijuana). The suspension was later reduced to 10 games due to the league’s reformed drug policy....

    Gordon was suspended the entire 2015 season due to another violation (alcohol) of the league’s substance abuse policy. ...

    2016: Gordon’s initial application for reinstatement was denied by the league in April because he failed another drug test. ... Following his completion of the program, Gordon once again had to be reinstated by the league. He did not take a snap during the 2016 season.

    https://www.boston.com/sports/new-en...nsion-timeline

    Yikes

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    So much for the "Patriot Way's" ability to get troubled players to turn themselves around...
    That “Patriot Way” has been going downhill for a while now...lol.

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    I really like when Bilicheat gambles backfire on him! Chad Johnson, Hainesworth to name a few. I know this is off subject I heard on one of the talk shows Louis Riddick expected the cheats to blow out the Steelers so much for that! LOL

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    Aaron Hernandez?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    Gordon wasn't a reclamation project, he wasn't even a gamble. He's a lost soul they figured might be able to fill a spot for awhile cheap. I hope he finds himself.

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    That “Patriot Way” has been going downhill for a while now...lol.
    Are you referring to their superbowl win two years ago, superbowl appearance last year, or just the past few weeks/days?
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    I think the "Patriot Way" fell apart when Tommy ran to Papa Kraft and got JimmyG traded away. Grumpy Bill IS the Patriot Way. Once he lost control to Tommy it ended without much fanfare because they still coasted into another SB after. Grumpy Bill may want to look into the Raven's HC job once this season ends. (Not really but he did coach for them once before and had success.)

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    What a waste

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    While I still think you should be allowed to drink and smoke as much as you want so long as you stay out of jail ... man, this guy has problems. I hope he seriously doesn't end up becoming a bum.
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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    Today's weed isn't the weed of 20 years ago. The talk about it being non-addictive is bullshit

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    While I still think you should be allowed to drink and smoke as much as you want so long as you stay out of jail ... man, this guy has problems. I hope he seriously doesn't end up becoming a bum.
    I would say that's a concern. Of course, I don't know anything about him other then what I've seen while watching him but he has that confused, lost, look in his eyes. I feel for the guy.

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    Quote Originally Posted by GBMelBlount View Post
    Are you referring to their superbowl win two years ago, superbowl appearance last year, or just the past few weeks/days?
    I’m not referring to any Super Bowls...lol.

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    Quote Originally Posted by tom444 View Post
    I would say that's a concern. Of course, I don't know anything about him other then what I've seen while watching him but he has that confused, lost, look in his eyes. I feel for the guy.
    Just from my own experience dealing with or observing people with substance abuse problems - there are the casual users who are 95% of them, who are anywhere on a spectrum from "I can take it or leave it" to "functional alcoholic / secret addict / leading a double life / just managing to keep their act together." But the people who are repeatedly having problems with the law, their work, their family, etc., over it are the ones who just can't help themselves, the real addicts, and what you see is usually just the tip of the iceberg. A lot of those people do stretches in jail, on the streets, or just lead a sketchy and often somewhat dangerous existence. Best case, they get a job at the cannabis club and everything exists nicely in this equilibrium of convenience for everyone.

    Of course, this is limited to my own personal experiences with this and the limited information available about Gordon ... but sadly, it would not be surprising to see him come to some miserable fate.
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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Just from my own experience dealing with or observing people with substance abuse problems - there are the casual users who are 95% of them, who are anywhere on a spectrum from "I can take it or leave it" to "functional alcoholic / secret addict / leading a double life / just managing to keep their act together." But the people who are repeatedly having problems with the law, their work, their family, etc., over it are the ones who just can't help themselves, the real addicts, and what you see is usually just the tip of the iceberg. A lot of those people do stretches in jail, on the streets, or just lead a sketchy and often somewhat dangerous existence. Best case, they get a job at the cannabis club and everything exists nicely in this equilibrium of convenience for everyone.

    Of course, this is limited to my own personal experiences with this and the limited information available about Gordon ... but sadly, it would not be surprising to see him come to some miserable fate.
    No remarks about the Patriots or Brady's sexuality? You're falling down on the job, SR.

    On a serious note, I hope Gordon gets the help he needs.

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    ...... but sadly, it would not be surprising to see him come to some miserable fate.
    Not a good thought.

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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    No remarks about the Patriots or Brady's sexuality? You're falling down on the job, SR.
    At this point, I think it speaks for itself.
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    Re: Patriots suddenly have a major hole in their receiving corps

    Seriously what is it with these players that can't put down the weed? I quit to be able to join the military, which was a career that gets paid MUCH less than being a player in the NFL. That's why I just can't have sympathy for these guys like Gordon or Bryant. They don't know how good they had it.

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