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    TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Decided to start a new thread on this rather than just include it in the Tomlin fined thread


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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Wow he didn't even scrape him. Put flags on them already.

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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Stumbling towards the QB after getting off the block of the O lineman and it looks like he gave up, so as to not roll into his legs. $20k for that? Its not like he followed thru and grabbed for the leg. What a sad game it has become.

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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    I know unreal total BS and, it reminded like back in 06 Kiesel went low near Drew Brees knees got flagged as well.

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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Wait...what?!?! For that lack of hit?




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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    This is just the NFL grinding salt into Mike Tomlins wound. The NFL sucks!!
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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact


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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Quote Originally Posted by steel striker View Post
    I know unreal total BS and, it reminded like back in 06 Kiesel went low near Drew Brees knees got flagged as well.
    Speaking of Mr. Keisel


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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    I miss the days when there were QB's that actually embraced the physicality of the game. Like Elway and Favre. Roethlisberger is the last of that breed

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    What this all shows is exactly what I was saying in another thread. The problem isn't the refs. The problem is what the refs are being told to call by the league.
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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Roger Goodell is laughable, he really is

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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    I miss the days when there were QB's that actually embraced the physicality of the game. Like Elway and Favre. Roethlisberger is the last of that breed
    Maybe Wentz before he tore up his knee

    But now why bother? No need to fight off defenders since they cannot touch the QB

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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    I am hoping that all the karma that the league has built up through ongoing pussification will snap back like a rubber band soon, with the result that you can stab the QB up to three times without a penalty.
    An empty victory is a victory nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    I am hoping that all the karma that the league has built up through ongoing pussification will snap back like a rubber band soon, with the result that you can stab the QB up to three times without a penalty.
    Ray Lewis would come out of retirement for that

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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    Ray Lewis would come out of retirement for that
    I’ll take “For the Win” for $1000, Alex.

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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    People keep asking me why I stopped watching the NFL. This shit is one of the main reasons.

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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    Wow he didn't even scrape him. Put flags on them already.
    I told people this was going to happen. Tackle football is disappearing. What will it look like in 10 years?
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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    What this all shows is exactly what I was saying in another thread. The problem isn't the refs. The problem is what the refs are being told to call by the league.
    Sure the league tells the refs what to call, but it’s the ref that exercises judgment and ultimately decides whether or not to make a call.
    You can’t place the blame for the poor calls we’re seeing on league directives alone.

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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Quote Originally Posted by FrancoLambert View Post
    Sure the league tells the refs what to call, but it’s the ref that exercises judgment and ultimately decides whether or not to make a call.
    You can’t place the blame for the poor calls we’re seeing on league directives alone.
    Agreed - but unlike the league office issuing an apology for the blown roughing call on Myles Garrett when he made a clean tackle of Ben in week one, the league here doubles down by fining TJ Watt for a flag that not just Tomlin but the Fox announcers said at the time was a poor call. That may just be reiterating the message to both Tomlin and the refs that we have your back when a coach criticizes you (with TJ Watt's bank balance as collateral damage), but more likely it is to tell refs throw the flag anytime a defender goes low anywhere near the QB. I assume refs also are being told that when the league breaks down postgame video and grades refs on what should have been flagged but what not. Which will lead to more calls like the one on TJ until defenders get even more hesitant.

    And more good news for everyone who thinks the problem with the NFL in 2018 is not enough penalties being called

    As we all focus on the roughing the passer rule that’s allegedly ruining football (and causing enough of a stir to be an SI cover story), the initial rule change that was supposed to ruin football in 2018 has gone as unnoticed in the regular season as it has gone uncalled....

    For now, the league is trying to legislate such hits mostly after the fact, with warnings and fines rather than in-game penalties....

    But there is reason to believe we’ll be seeing flags on such plays, and other lowering-the-helmet shots, more frequently in weeks to come....

    an after-the-fact fine for an infraction that went uncalled isn’t a good look for the men in stripes.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/10/12/he...es-2018-season

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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    Agreed - but unlike the league office issuing an apology for the blown roughing call on Myles Garrett when he made a clean tackle of Ben in week one, the league here doubles down by fining TJ Watt for a flag that not just Tomlin but the Fox announcers said at the time was a poor call. That may just be reiterating the message to both Tomlin and the refs that we have your back when a coach criticizes you (with TJ Watt's bank balance as collateral damage), but more likely it is to tell refs throw the flag anytime a defender goes low anywhere near the QB. I assume refs also are being told that when the league breaks down postgame video and grades refs on what should have been flagged but what not. Which will lead to more calls like the one on TJ until defenders get even more hesitant.

    And more good news for everyone who thinks the problem with the NFL in 2018 is not enough penalties being called

    As we all focus on the roughing the passer rule that’s allegedly ruining football (and causing enough of a stir to be an SI cover story), the initial rule change that was supposed to ruin football in 2018 has gone as unnoticed in the regular season as it has gone uncalled....

    For now, the league is trying to legislate such hits mostly after the fact, with warnings and fines rather than in-game penalties....

    But there is reason to believe we’ll be seeing flags on such plays, and other lowering-the-helmet shots, more frequently in weeks to come....

    an after-the-fact fine for an infraction that went uncalled isn’t a good look for the men in stripes.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/10/12/he...es-2018-season


    Agreed.

    The NFL just got word that ratings are up.

    What do you think Goodell is going to do? He's going to pounce on an opportunity to expand and then strictly enforce any safety rules that appear to be accepted by the public.

    He looks at this as a chance to make the game safer, prevent future lawsuits, and last but not least....make more money and acquire more power.

    He is emboldened by everything above. Fining these players like Watt is the trial balloon to see how much the public will accept.

    He doesn't care about the players. This is about money and power.

    The penalties are going to get worse....not better.

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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    Agreed - but unlike the league office issuing an apology for the blown roughing call on Myles Garrett when he made a clean tackle of Ben in week one, the league here doubles down by fining TJ Watt for a flag that not just Tomlin but the Fox announcers said at the time was a poor call. That may just be reiterating the message to both Tomlin and the refs that we have your back when a coach criticizes you (with TJ Watt's bank balance as collateral damage), but more likely it is to tell refs throw the flag anytime a defender goes low anywhere near the QB. I assume refs also are being told that when the league breaks down postgame video and grades refs on what should have been flagged but what not. Which will lead to more calls like the one on TJ until defenders get even more hesitant.

    And more good news for everyone who thinks the problem with the NFL in 2018 is not enough penalties being called

    As we all focus on the roughing the passer rule that’s allegedly ruining football (and causing enough of a stir to be an SI cover story), the initial rule change that was supposed to ruin football in 2018 has gone as unnoticed in the regular season as it has gone uncalled....

    For now, the league is trying to legislate such hits mostly after the fact, with warnings and fines rather than in-game penalties....

    But there is reason to believe we’ll be seeing flags on such plays, and other lowering-the-helmet shots, more frequently in weeks to come....

    an after-the-fact fine for an infraction that went uncalled isn’t a good look for the men in stripes.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/10/12/he...es-2018-season
    Thanks alot, AD. I clicked on the "Initial Rule Change" link and scrolled too far and saw Dwayne Wade's wife's instagram post and immediately forgot what this whole thread was about!



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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Pffft... $20,000. Harrison would have been fined $50,000.

    #salty

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    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    Thanks alot, AD. I clicked on the "Initial Rule Change" link and scrolled too far and saw Dwayne Wade's wife's instagram post and immediately forgot what this whole thread was about!


    I always did find Gabrielle Union attractive for some reason. Now, if you can pull your eyes away from that for a few seconds, the other gifs in there made me shake my head at some of the penalties that were called, like the defensive players on his knees making a tackle, and being called for going in head first.
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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    Agreed.

    The NFL just got word that ratings are up.

    What do you think Goodell is going to do? He's going to pounce on an opportunity to expand and then strictly enforce any safety rules that appear to be accepted by the public.

    He looks at this as a chance to make the game safer, prevent future lawsuits, and last but not least....make more money and acquire more power.

    He is emboldened by everything above. Fining these players like Watt is the trial balloon to see how much the public will accept.

    He doesn't care about the players. This is about money and power.

    The penalties are going to get worse....not better.
    All of the above is what the owners pay him to do and why he still has a job.

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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    All of the above is what the owners pay him to do and why he still has a job.

    Exactly

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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    When I heard that they really fined Watt for that... I'm just waiting that they fine anyone who touches the QB unless it's a sack. Like when it's roughing/running into the kicker when you try to block a punt but don't get a piece of the football.

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    Re: TJ Watt fined $20K for Matt Ryan contact

    Fine Watt for that...nothing for Burfict?




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