Keith Butler Admits Steelers Had Two Different Coverages On Kelce Touchdown

[Shoes]

James Harrison said a large part of miscommunication in 2017 came from the Pittsburgh Steelers defense playing two different coverages. That problem evidently isn’t solved based on what Keith Butler admitted in speaking with reporters this afternoon

https://steelersdepot.com/2018/09/ke...lce-touchdown/

[Edman]

I'm not angry or upset, I'm not even humored as a defense mechanism.

Right now, I'm just waiting for Butler to lose his job. Why they thought that he's was a good fit in Pittsburgh after the Jacksonville debacle is beyond me, but hey, maybe it needs to happen.

[teegre]

Remember the Gay Meter?

We something clever like that for Butler.

[Edman]

Remember the Gay Meter?

We something clever like that for Butler.

"The Butler Did It" Counter.

Every time the Defense looks unprepared, confused, or out of whack.

"The Butler Did It" +1.

[GoSlash27]

I'm not even going to argue the point with Butler. We have an established pattern where either 1) a DB leaves his assignment or 2) the DBs don't seem to know what their assignment is.
This tends to manifest itself when the senior DB is out of the game. It still comes back to Butler for failing to prep the players. There must always be a chain of command; a single player calling the plays. What he says goes, even if it's the wrong coverage. Likewise, all players must understand their assignment and the assignments of their neighbors so there is is no confusion. That way, the entire defense doesn't hinge on the health of one player.

Butler has failed in the "command and control" aspect of his job. Not saying he needs fired, necessarily... but he needs to do a better job at this.

[pczach]

[BlackAndGold]

It's either Butler's lack of abilty to call plays, or they're putting too many dumb players on the field. It's likely both.

[stillers4me]

Playing two defenses at the same time.....that takes some skill.

[Dwinsgames]

It's either Butler's lack of abilty to call plays, or they're putting too many dumb players on the field. It's likely both.

said it so many times in so many threads ...

Listen to Butler talk in any interview or draft pick press conference ... he is SLOW to process a thought and get it out .... and thats a no pressure situation

now take that same basic inability to get out a thought into play calling ....

now consider he has 7-10 seconds to make a call because once he does the green dot has to relay that call to the defense on the field ....

my argument is Butler takes to long to make the call and then the green dot doesn't have time to get the call in and for all to hear it ... so

summation ....

Butler sucks
Team doesnt get the call
green dot and guys around him are playing the called play ... everyone else if left guessing because they didn't get the relayed msg
opposition then scores points

[BlackAndGold]

said it so many times in so many threads ...

Listen to Butler talk in any interview or draft pick press conference ... he is SLOW to process a thought and get it out .... and thats a no pressure situation

now take that same basic inability to get out a thought into play calling ....

now consider he has 7-10 seconds to make a call because once he does the green dot has to relay that call to the defense on the field ....

my argument is Butler takes to long to make the call and then the green dot doesn't have time to get the call in and for all to hear it ... so

summation ....

Butler sucks
Team doesnt get the call
green dot and guys around him are playing the called play ... everyone else if left guessing because they didn't get the relayed msg
opposition then scores points

It's just a mess that I'm tired of seeing. Many thought Mitchell was a part of the issue, and.... it's still happening.

If it continues he should be gone. Let Bradley, or better yet Tomlin call the plays

[Shoes]

It's either Butler's lack of abilty to call plays, or they're putting too many dumb players on the field. It's likely both.

Playing two defenses at the same time.....that takes some skill.

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[st33lersguy]

The big mystery of 2018, why wasn't Keith Butler fired last offseason?

[Shoes]

The big mystery of 2018, why wasn't Keith Butler fired last offseason?

Because the Rooneys promised him the DC job and they would look like dumb asses if they did. So, this will continue until they find another scapegoat.

[st33lersguy]

It's either Butler's lack of abilty to call plays, or they're putting too many dumb players on the field. It's likely both.

It is both, Butler is incompetent, but you also have complete idiot Artie Burns as one of the corners and Bud Dupree whose knowledge of football is limited to running up the field and getting pushed away from the QB

[teegre]

"The Butler Did It" Counter.

Every time the Defense looks unprepared, confused, or out of whack.

"The Butler Did It" +1.

It has to be spelled Buttler though.

[86WARD]

So basically none of the problems from last season have been fixed this season. Thanks for the confirmation...

[Fire Goodell]

Remember the Gay Meter?

We something clever like that for Butler.

The butt meter?

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

It has to be spelled Buttler though.

I like where you guys are going with this. Can we measure the Buttler meter in increments of "Jeeves"?

I'd say on a scale of 1-10 Jeeves, that Butler is currently around 7. Another terrible performance this week and he could climb to 9 Jeeves, which is risk of imminent dismissal. If his defense balls out, then he may take things down to 6Jeeves.

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Or we could use Benson, Alfred or Belvedere's as well.

[Mojouw]

I'm all in support of the meter. But I really think we need to resign ourselves to the fact that Butler is here to stay - at least through the season.

No one else on the defensive staff could get promoted if he is dismissed. Frazier and Bradley are in Year 1. Porter and Olsavsky are not DC material. So that leaves Tomlin. If you think "distractions" are an issue now, imagine a sideline where a HC was trying to call defensive plays and monitor his first year OC?

So that just leaves the current set-up. It is what it is.

[Steeldude]

It's just a mess that I'm tired of seeing. Many thought Mitchell was a part of the issue, and.... it's still happening.

If it continues he should be gone. Let Bradley, or better yet Tomlin call the plays

Please, do not have Tomlin call plays. That was a disaster last season.

[Steeldude]

Getting rid of Butler won't solve the problem. The team will remain confused, unprepared and undisciplined.

I guess we can blame the punter.

[steelreserve]

Remember the Gay Meter?

We something clever like that for Butler.

Why not just use the same thing but with a lower-case "g"

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I'm all in support of the meter. But I really think we need to resign ourselves to the fact that Butler is here to stay - at least through the season.

No one else on the defensive staff could get promoted if he is dismissed. Frazier and Bradley are in Year 1. Porter and Olsavsky are not DC material. So that leaves Tomlin. If you think "distractions" are an issue now, imagine a sideline where a HC was trying to call defensive plays and monitor his first year OC?

So that just leaves the current set-up. It is what it is.

I agree that too many new coaches around to let Butler go. I personally am still not sure Fichtner knows what he is doing as an OC either.

[AtlantaDan]

I personally am still not sure Fichtner knows what he is doing as an OC either.

Having the OC be the QB's caddy works if the QB is Peyton Manning in his prime - we shall see if that works out for the Steelers

The opening series in the first quarter debacle of the KC game were not encouraging

[86WARD]

Talent just isn’t there at this stage but I’ll be honest, I’d feel better with Bradley managing this group than I do with Butler at the moment.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Having the OC be the QB's caddy works if the QB is Peyton Manning in his prime - we shall see if that works out for the Steelers

The opening series in the first quarter debacle of the KC game were not encouraging

Agreed, but there was a time in the KC game where they showed Fichtner on the sidelines talking to a player and he looked more panicked than a guy that had a plan in mind of how to adapt. He looked about as confident as the albino kid that was caddy for Happy Gilmore.

[Count Steeler]

Let's really raise some hell and let Joey take the reigns.

[AtlantaDan]

Agreed, but there was a time in the KC game where they showed Fichtner on the sidelines talking to a player and he looked more panicked than a guy that had a plan in mind of how to adapt. He looked about as confident as the albino kid that was caddy for Happy Gilmore.

I was at the game so I did not see that (or AB acting out on the sidelines)

Instead I watched the Keystone Kops fire drill of trying to get the correct defensive personnel on and off the field along with players acting out after yet another blown coverage - that looked far worse in person than what I have seen on TV

[st33lersguy]

Why not just hire an outside guy to be DC? Teams do it all the time? They don't have to promote someone from within (and they probably shouldn't either)

[stillers4me]

This season is probably a wash, but keep in mind the noticable difference Munch made with the O line.