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    T.J. Watts Sacks And Swats Save Steelers From Defeat

    The Pittsburgh Steelers may not have won or lost this won, but there were certainly winners and losers on the field. second-year outside linebacker T.J. Watt, making his debut start on the left side after missing all of the preseason and almost all of training camp, was a clear winner.


    In the 16th start of his career, the former first-round draft pick already gained more than half of his sack total from his rookie season, bringing down Cleveland Browns quarterback Tyrod Taylor a whopping four times, which according to Alex Kozoras research is the most in a game by a Steelers defender since Joey Porter in 2001.........

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    Re: T.J. Watts Sacks And Swats Save Steelers From Defeat

    Like I said in the game day thread Watt seems to player better on the left side and thought that when watching him in college. He may be a beast this year. Anyhow heck of a game from him today!

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    He's going to be special to watch.
    1. Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia 2. Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia 3. Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan 3. ​Renardo Green, CB, FSU 4. Mo Kamara, OLB, Colorado State 6. Logan Lee, DT, Iowa 6.Khristian Boyd, NT, Northern Iowa

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    Re: T.J. Watts Sacks And Swats Save Steelers From Defeat

    Watching Mack absolutely destroy the Packers makes me sad we didnt get him at whatever the cost

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    Re: T.J. Watts Sacks And Swats Save Steelers From Defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    Watching Mack absolutely destroy the Packers makes me sad we didn’t get him at whatever the cost
    Yea he is in beast mode tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    Watching Mack absolutely destroy the Packers makes me sad we didnt get him at whatever the cost
    Bell & our R1 would have been a good value.

    Watt & Mack... Mack & Watt... either way, it has a nice ring to it.

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    Re: T.J. Watts Sacks And Swats Save Steelers From Defeat

    At least people can ( or should) stop saying we have no “play maker” on defense. We most certainly do. He’s the younger, and usually healthier, of the Brothers Watt.

    He’s an absolute star. And this is the WORST he’ll ever be. A guy like this, with his work ethic, ONLY improves.

    I’m hoping we’ll one day see JJ, wearing his gold jacket, be the one to give the tearful speech to induct his little brother, T.J., into that hallowed Hall.

    If they both stay relatively healthy going forward, there should be at least TWO golden hangers at Ma and Pa Watt’s family home to hang up a couple gold jackets when the boys come home for holidays.

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    Re: T.J. Watts Sacks And Swats Save Steelers From Defeat

    I’m assuming that going up against RTs, instead of LTs, will get Watt at least 1 sack/week.


    Even if it is “every other week”, that would be 11.5 sacks.


    My subdued guess is... 19 sacks.

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    Re: T.J. Watts Sacks And Swats Save Steelers From Defeat

    Watt is gonna be a pro bowler this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    Watt is gonna be DPOY this year
    slight edit

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    Watt should have been going up against RT's from the get go but the Dupree experiment was still going on. . I remember when he caused Penn State havoc on that side. At least Pitt has it right this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    I’m assuming that going up against RTs, instead of LTs, will get Watt at least 1 sack/week.


    Even if it is “every other week”, that would be 11.5 sacks.


    My subdued guess is... 19 sacks.
    He’ll also probably get a few picks when he drops back into coverage. With Cam and Tuitt on the line eating up double teams, Watt is gonna have a monster year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodSteel View Post
    Hell also probably get a few picks when he drops back into coverage. With Cam and Tuitt on the line eating up double teams, Watt is gonna have a monster year.
    Yep.

    Watt can can line up at ILB (e.g. in the dime); so, I expect 5-7 INTs from him each season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    Watching Mack absolutely destroy the Packers makes me sad we didn’t get him at whatever the cost
    Well an injured Rodgers just came back from a 20-0 half and beat the Bears and Mack on one leg. Some teams just know how to adjust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Well an injured Rodgers just came back from a 20-0 half and beat the Bears and Mack on one leg. Some teams just know how to adjust.
    What? They won? Google told me it was a 20-0 lead before I went to bed. LOL Wow.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Well an injured Rodgers just came back from a 20-0 half and beat the Bears and Mack on one leg. Some teams just know how to adjust.
    Didn't Tomlin once say they don't adjust or scheme for an opponent? It sounds familiar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    Didn't Tomlin once say they don't adjust or scheme for an opponent? It sounds familiar.
    Arians said he doesn't plan for 3-4 or 4-3 or something like that



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    Re: T.J. Watts Sacks And Swats Save Steelers From Defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Well an injured Rodgers just came back from a 20-0 half and beat the Bears and Mack on one leg. Some teams just know how to adjust.
    It seemed most of their adjustments centered on blocking pass rushers, waiting for Mack to get tired, and tackling. Oh yeah, waiting for a gimpy Rodgers to save them.

    I wouldn't rush to anoint the Packers just yet. In the first half, their RT and LG simply forgot to block anyone. In the second half, they kinda sorta got in the way of some people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    Didn't Tomlin once say they don't adjust or scheme for an opponent? It sounds familiar.
    He has said something like that before and at times it has made sense. Early in Tomlin's tenure, I wouldn't have changed the defense week to week. I would've just rolled out that squad and told the other team "you worry about blocking them". In recent years, the offense has just needed to execute its game to put points up on any defense.

    Regardless, the statement was never really true. In the 08 SB, the defense totally changed its coverages to hold Fitzgerald down for a half. There are other examples. The deployment of various "Gronk specialists" over the years, with Cortez Allen being the only one that worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    I’m assuming that going up against RTs, instead of LTs, will get Watt at least 1 sack/week.


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    Ya know, some rushers prefer one side over the other due to mechanics or their pass rush move. Its not necessarily LT vs RT skill set, but can have some to do with it. To some if feels more comfortable swatting with left and and dipping the right shoulder while turning the corner. Also, some find a spin move counter inside from the left side better than when they have to spin the other way.

    I'm hoping that is the case for Watt and Dupree, that they feel more comfortable where they are. Dupree looked better running a shorter arc from the right side IMO, his sack/fumble and QB pressures/hits looked more impactful than last season, so lets see where it all goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Well an injured Rodgers just came back from a 20-0 half and beat the Bears and Mack on one leg. Some teams just know how to adjust.
    Mack was pretty much non-existent in the second half. Rodgers is easily the best QB in the league right now and it helps that they clearly made some nice adjustments at the half.

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    da bears still get owned by the pack. Moral of the story = qb is the only position where you can bring in a player for big money and that one person will make a huge diff

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Mack was pretty much non-existent in the second half. Rodgers is easily the best QB in the league right now and it helps that they clearly made some nice adjustments at the half.
    My feelings exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    It seemed most of their adjustments centered on blocking pass rushers, waiting for Mack to get tired, and tackling. Oh yeah, waiting for a gimpy Rodgers to save them.

    I wouldn't rush to anoint the Packers just yet. In the first half, their RT and LG simply forgot to block anyone. In the second half, they kinda sorta got in the way of some people.

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    He has said something like that before and at times it has made sense. Early in Tomlin's tenure, I wouldn't have changed the defense week to week. I would've just rolled out that squad and told the other team "you worry about blocking them". In recent years, the offense has just needed to execute its game to put points up on any defense.

    Regardless, the statement was never really true. In the 08 SB, the defense totally changed its coverages to hold Fitzgerald down for a half. There are other examples. The deployment of various "Gronk specialists" over the years, with Cortez Allen being the only one that worked.
    I'm not, but Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    I'm not, but Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL imo.
    By a country mile. And that is saying something because the next 3-5 guys on the list are really really really good as well.

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    J.J Watt had begun to be dominant in its second season after a good rookie season, but not great.

    If T.J Watt is half dominant that his brother was at his peak, our defense could be scary, especially since our secondary was very good against the two very good WR of the Browns(Gordon and Landry)

    No excuse for Butler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    J.J Watt had begun to be dominant in its second season after a good rookie season, but not great.

    If T.J Watt is half dominant that his brother was at his peak, our defense could be scary, especially since our secondary was very good against the two very good WR of the Browns(Gordon and Landry)

    No excuse for Butler.
    JJ actually has a better rookie season than his brother... which bodes well for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    JJ actually has a better rookie season than his brother... which bodes well for us.
    In fact, T.J had more sacks in his rookie season than J.J (7.0 sacks for T.J and 5.5 for J.J)!

    Of course, the stats not say everything and J.J plays in a position that benefits the sacks less, which makes his stats even more impressive during his peak.

    As I said, if T.J is just half that J.J was in his peak, he's going to have a big impact for the steelers....

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    In fact, T.J had more sacks in his rookie season than J.J (7.0 sacks for T.J and 5.5 for J.J)!

    Of course, the stats not say everything and J.J plays in a position that benefits the sacks less, which makes his stats even more impressive during his peak.

    As I said, if T.J is just half that J.J was in his peak, he's going to have a big impact for the steelers....
    You are correct... but, I’m not talking about sacks alone. TJ had INTs and passes defensed.

    But, Yes, as I’ve averred: if TJ has one DPOY (compared to JJ’s three) it’s a win for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    You are correct... but, I’m not talking about sacks alone. TJ had INTs and passes defensed.

    But, Yes, as I’ve averred: if TJ has one DPOY (compared to JJ’s three) its a win for us.
    T.J Watt is the one of the steelers and J.J is the one of the Texans!

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