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    Khalil Mack

    I was just reading that the Raiders are severely lacking at the backup QB spot, with all the talk about trading Bell for Mack, maybe we can sweeten the pot by adding Dobbs to that trade as well? Just a thought I had, of course I am also reading that Mack wants QB money so trying to get him under contract is probably impossible.

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    We already have a diva player that wants QB money

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Doubt Dobbs has much value.

    Mack to Pittsburgh isn't going to happen sadly. I can see a team like the Jets offering up a package for him. They just got an extra third by trading Bridgewater to the Saints.

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    Doubt Dobbs has much value.

    Mack to Pittsburgh isn't going to happen sadly. I can see a team like the Jets offering up a package for him. They just got an extra third by trading Bridgewater to the Saints.
    I read if Beckham justifies $65 million guaranteed Mack should bring in $75 million at the now reset market rates - even if the Raiders pulled off a trade hard to see how to get Mack to report unless you agree to sign him long-term without the cap space at this time of year to pull it off

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    I read if Beckham justifies $65 million guaranteed Mack should bring in $75 million at the now reset market rates - even if the Raiders pulled off a trade hard to see how to get Mack to report unless you agree to sign him long-term without the cap space at this time of year to pull it off
    would have to be big signing bonus money combined with roster bonus money over the length of the contract in order ot do so ... would be difficult but doable ...

    question is does he provide you with a missing piece to close the deal on 2 Lombardi's in the next 3 years ... if you answer yes , then you do it ... if you say no then you do not
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    I read if Beckham justifies $65 million guaranteed Mack should bring in $75 million at the now reset market rates - even if the Raiders pulled off a trade hard to see how to get Mack to report unless you agree to sign him long-term without the cap space at this time of year to pull it off
    In Omar Khan I trust.

    Really.

    I’m no cap genius, but the $14 million already allotted for Bell, along with restructuring a player or two (e.g. Ben) should give us enough cap space to give Mack the $18-$20 million/season that he wants.

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    For two 1st rounders you can have him.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...r-khalil-mack/

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    For two 1st rounders you can have him.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...r-khalil-mack/
    Not that I’m even advocating this, but... what about:

    Bell & a R1?

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Not that I’m even advocating this, but... what about:

    Bell & a R1?

    they need another QB ...

    so why not Bell ( let them have their pick ) Dobbs / Jones and a 3rd
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    they need another QB ...

    so why not Bell ( let them have their pick ) Dobbs / Jones and a 3rd
    I like.

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    they need another QB ...

    so why not Bell ( let them have their pick ) Dobbs / Jones and a 3rd
    IMO, there’s no way that they are taking anything less than a R1 (plus, something else equal to a R1).


    Dobbs/Jones + R3 is nowhere close to equal to a R1 pick. In fact, considering Bell’s age... it would probably be Bell, a R1, and Dobbs/Jones.

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    The Raiders will more than likely keep Mack and franchise tag him until they no longer can do so financially, exactly like the Steelers are doing with Bell.

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    The Raiders will more than likely keep Mack and franchise tag him until they no longer can do so financially, exactly like the Steelers are doing with Bell.
    he is already under contract .... tag is 2 years away I believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    IMO, there’s no way that they are taking anything less than a R1 (plus, something else equal to a R1).


    Dobbs/Jones + R3 is nowhere close to equal to a R1 pick. In fact, considering Bell’s age... it would probably be Bell, a R1, and Dobbs/Jones.
    this is Chucky and Reggie Mckenzie remember ..they gave up a 3rd for Martavis
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    IMO, there’s no way that they are taking anything less than a R1 (plus, something else equal to a R1).


    Dobbs/Jones + R3 is nowhere close to equal to a R1 pick. In fact, considering Bell’s age... it would probably be Bell, a R1, and Dobbs/Jones.
    Why would the Raiders even want Bell who isn't even signed long term? How likely would Bell re-sign?

    Mack isn't going to be in the Black and Gold. Even though we can all dream.

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    this is Chucky and Reggie Mckenzie remember ..they gave up a 3rd for Martavis
    That’s funny... but... also totally TRUE.

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    he is already under contract .... tag is 2 years away I believe
    FA after this year.

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    We already have a diva player that wants QB money
    The difference is that Mack might actually be worth it.

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    Why would the Raiders even want Bell who isn't even signed long term? How likely would Bell re-sign?

    Mack isn't going to be in the Black and Gold. Even though we can all dream.
    The Raidahs could sign him long-term.

    A: It’s preseason, and a boring Wednesday night... so, I’m like: why not take a ride down this rabbit hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    The Raidahs could sign him long-term.

    A: It’s preseason, and a boring Wednesday night... so, I’m like: why not take a ride down this rabbit hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    The Raidahs could sign him long-term.

    A: It’s preseason, and a boring Wednesday night... so, I’m like: why not take a ride down this rabbit hole.
    Lol.

    So ready for the season to start.

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Bell is worthless in a trade unless both parties could agree to an extension prior to the trade. Of course that would be wildly illegal and never happen in the NFL.

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    The Steelers don't have the money to sign him and there would be too much to have to give up.
    P.S.: If the Raiders do trade Mack, that dumpster fire of a non-existent defense will somehow be even worse (I didn't even think that was possible)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Bell is worthless in a trade unless both parties could agree to an extension prior to the trade. Of course that would be wildly illegal and never happen in the NFL.
    Wink, wink... nudge, nudge,” the man said knowingly.

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    The Steelers don't have the money to sign him and there would be too much to have to give up.
    P.S.: If the Raiders do trade Mack, that dumpster fire of a non-existent defense will somehow be even worse (I didn't even think that was possible)
    You might be surprised this year. We have a real D coordinator now. Norton is gone...lol.

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    You might be surprised this year. We have a real D coordinator now. Norton is gone...lol.
    Any word on whether ex-Bengals coordinator Paul Guenther is going to get a lot of discretion over the defense or if Chuckie is going to seek to impose defensive schemes that worked 15 years ago?

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    Any word on whether ex-Bengals coordinator Paul Guenther is going to get a lot of discretion over the defense or if Chuckie is going to seek to impose defensive schemes that worked 15 years ago?
    As with all head coaches, I'm sure Chucky gets the final say, but all indications are that Guenther is running the defense as he sees fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    As with all head coaches, I'm sure Chucky gets the final say, but all indications are that Guenther is running the defense as he sees fit.
    Thanks

    I ask because once LeBeau left Tomlin started imposing his views that went back to defensive philosophies shaped by his time in Tampa - it may primarily be a personnel problem but that has not led to optimal results

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    Re: Khalil Mack

    Why would the Raiders want Bell over two first round picks. They have Lynch and Martin which are serviceable veterans for now and they have Chris Warren, an undrafted guy who has been torching defenses this preseason. To take Bell over two first round picks would be crazy...but then again, it is the Raiders we are talking about...


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    Re: Khalil Mack

    I wouldn't rule out a trade. It could happen, but I don't think so. He's under contract. Every game he doesn't show up for can cost him $814,000 in fines.... if the Raiders decide on that action.... which I doubt they would.

    I've heard that it will take two 1st round picks and possibly a player... if it were to happen.

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