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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    That’s your return specialist. May signal the end of DHB...


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    That’s your return specialist. May signal the end of DHB...
    Can he cover kicks? That is the main value of DHB.

    Both Washington and Patterson looked to do a good job of covering kicks, but I think DHB is better than both. Tough to complain about Danny Smiths coverage teams and then release one of his best punt cover guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Can he cover kicks? That is the main value of DHB.

    Both Washington and Patterson looked to do a good job of covering kicks, but I think DHB is better than both. Tough to complain about Danny Smiths coverage teams and then release one of his best punt cover guys.
    Matakevich can. DHB is definitely better than those guys but it’s a numbers game and if they keep DHB and Switzer (which is possible), they’d have to cut back somewhere else. I’ve always been a DHB supporter as his STs and locker room prescience have been very underrated. I’d love to see him stay...


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    That’s your return specialist. May signal the end of DHB...
    Rogers**

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    Rogers**
    Patterson may have done Rogers in. Can you really justify having two WRs on the roster that are more or less ST specialist guys?


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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    Fitz could lose his spot also. Ryan Switzer can return kicks.

    After Samuels showing against the Titans they may keep just 3 RB's. (Bell, Connor, Samuels)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    Fitz could lost his spot also. Ryan Switzer can return kicks.

    After Samuels showing against the Titans they may keep just 3 RB's. (Bell, Connor, Samuels)
    That’s a possibility as well. Still find it hard to believe they would go with DHB and Switzer just bas d on the fact you are taking up two WR spots on those guys who aren’t really WRs but in a jam.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    That’s a possibility as well. Still find it hard to believe they would go with DHB and Switzer just bas d on the fact you are taking up two WR spots on those guys who aren’t really WRs but in a jam.
    AB, JuJu, JW13, Hunter, Switzer, DHB.....could be the 6 they keep. Rogers not healthy and Patterson they could try and see if he will make it to the PS.

    Tomlin likes his offensive players returning punts, so I was kind of surprised to see Sutton back there, although he did it in college.

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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    could kill Eli's shot at sticking around and may also impact DHBs roster spot ... could be a move to clear 2 guys and replace with 1
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    This hurts Rogers and Fitz Imo.

    What do they do with Rogers once he's healthy? I doubt they would cut Ryan after trading for him unless he's a disaster. Cut/trade?


    DHB is still the best gunner on ST, and still has great speed if they want a deep threat on the field. I would be surprised if he's in danger.

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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    Meh.

    Traded what is almost certainly a conditional pick so if they preview him for a game and then cut him no pick transfers, I think...

    But not really impressed with a guy who can't get on the field at the WR spot for a not really good Dallas WR corps and was held off by the almighty Seth Roberts and Griff Whalen in Raiders camp.

    Maybe an attempt to get another version of Eli Rogers so they can cut Rodgers if he continues to be a suspension and injury risk?

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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Meh.

    Traded what is almost certainly a conditional pick so if they preview him for a game and then cut him no pick transfers, I think...

    But not really impressed with a guy who can't get on the field at the WR spot for a not really good Dallas WR corps and was held off by the almighty Seth Roberts and Griff Whalen in Raiders camp.

    Maybe an attempt to get another version of Eli Rogers so they can cut Rodgers if he continues to be a suspension and injury risk?
    Right along the lines of what I was thinking. Just don't see a ton of value in a return specialist on the whole anyway.

    This has to be bad news for Eli Rogers but I also wonder who else it hurts. The 2 most likely candidates are Toussaint and Hunter. Toussaint has played well enough at RB to warrant a spot without also being the KR guy but Samuels has played well too and there is almost no value in keeping 4 RB's even if 4 guys deserve it.

    Hunter on the other hand offers nothing on ST but they seem to really like him. So do they keep 6 and Hunter stays or does Switzer manage to bump him off?

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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Meh.

    Traded what is almost certainly a conditional pick so if they preview him for a game and then cut him no pick transfers, I think.
    If this is the case, then not really a big story. Otherwise, it's curious that they'd make a trade for another WR when they already have too many. Bringing him on would have to threaten 2 players in order to make sense. My guess is Fitz and Hey-Bey. That'd save a spot to shore up another position.

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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    If this is the case, then not really a big story. Otherwise, it's curious that they'd make a trade for another WR when they already have too many. Bringing him on would have to threaten 2 players in order to make sense.

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    I think it certainly does ...

    I think this bounces Henderson ( whom I had lost hope of making the 53 anyways due to playing it safe )

    I think it cuts Eli out of the equation even though he is on the pup and is an insurance policy at this point

    I also think it may cost 1 other job ... I would say DHB but that has to be sounding like a broken record by now ..

    it is costing the Steelers a 5th round pick and a 6th from the cowbows according to Alex
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    I think it certainly does ...

    I think this bounces Henderson ( whom I had lost hope of making the 53 anyways due to playing it safe )

    I think it cuts Eli out of the equation even though he is on the pup and is an insurance policy at this point

    I also think it may cost 1 other job ... I would say DHB but that has to be sounding like a broken record by now ..

    it is costing the Steelers a 5th round pick and a 6th from the cowbows according to Alex
    DWins,
    Not disagreeing with you, but just to clarify my point... What I mean is it would have to save 2 spots on the final 53; one on offense as a receiver and one on ST as a gunner/ returner. Even if he's not as strong at any individual job as the people he'd be replacing, it may still be worth doing.

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    Not a good number to have, Switzer.



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    Not a good number to have, Switzer.
    except for Santonio Holmes...

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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    I was hoping we would have drafted this kid, glad to have him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    I was hoping we would have drafted this kid, glad to have him.
    I thought you wanted a TE instead?

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    Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    If they keep 6 WRs, does that extra WR take from another positions “allotment”?

    Antonio Brown
    JuJu Smith-Schuster
    James Washington
    Justin Hunter
    Darrius Heyward-Bey
    Ryan Switzer

    Patterson (and maybe Tucker) could probably hit the PS.

    Last year, I believe, they carried 6 but Rogers and Bryant were true WRs opposed to Switzer...


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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    If they keep 6 WRs, does that extra WR take from another positions “allotment”?

    Antonio Brown
    JuJu Smith-Schuster
    James Washington
    Justin Hunter
    Darrius Heyward-Bey
    Ryan Switzer

    Patterson (and maybe Tucker) could probably hit the PS.

    Last year, I believe, they carried 6 but Rogers and Bryant were true WRs opposed to Switzer...
    does Tucker even have PS eligibility left ? seems like he has been here forever
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    does Tucker even have PS eligibility left ? seems like he has been here forever
    I read somewhere that he was still PS eligible.


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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    Traded Oakland a 2019 5th round pick for Switzer and 2019 6th round pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    I was hoping we would have drafted this kid, glad to have him.
    Loved him coming out of UNC, had him in my mock.

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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    Team has four WR's locked up for the next few years. The WR position is something they don't need to worry about.


    AB
    JuJu
    Washington
    Switzer (assuming he can replace Rogers production as a slot WR+returner)

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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    I know this guy now. He was at the 2017 Senior Bowl and had a good week. Went to UNC and was going against Cam Sutton and TreDavious White in practice. IMO, worth taking a shot at a quick slot receiver, who can also return kicks.

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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    I know this guy now. He was at the 2017 Senior Bowl and had a good week. Went to UNC and was going against Cam Sutton and TreDavious White in practice. IMO, worth taking a shot at a quick slot receiver, who can also return kicks.

    Great return man, and he has elite short area quickness. We know he can really run with it after he catches it. I thought he would be a very good slot receiver coming out of college.

    He is certainly worth a shot because I'm not sure Dallas knows what the hell they're doing with WR's since Garrett got there.

    I'm not sure Gruden knows what the hell he's doing either to this point.....but he does have Bongtavis….so he's got that going for him.

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    Re: Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    Great return man, and he has elite short area quickness. We know he can really run with it after he catches it. I thought he would be a very good slot receiver coming out of college.

    He is certainly worth a shot because I'm not sure Dallas knows what the hell they're doing with WR's since Garrett got there.

    I'm not sure Gruden knows what the hell he's doing either to this point.....but he does have Bongtavis….so he's got that going for him.
    I agree. Who on the team has that kind of short area quickness in the slot currently? JuJu is big and not really quick. JW, Hunter, DHB and even Patterson are all more suited to the outside.

    Switzer brings a skillset in the slot WR position that the Steelers don't currently have on the roster. I bet that is part of the reason for the trade.

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