Steelers trade for Oakland WR Ryan Switzer

[pczach]

I know this guy now. He was at the 2017 Senior Bowl and had a good week. Went to UNC and was going against Cam Sutton and TreDavious White in practice. IMO, worth taking a shot at a quick slot receiver, who can also return kicks.

Great return man, and he has elite short area quickness. We know he can really run with it after he catches it. I thought he would be a very good slot receiver coming out of college.

He is certainly worth a shot because I'm not sure Dallas knows what the hell they're doing with WR's since Garrett got there.

I'm not sure Gruden knows what the hell he's doing either to this point.....but he does have Bongtavis….so he's got that going for him.

[Dwinsgames]

If this is the case, then not really a big story. Otherwise, it's curious that they'd make a trade for another WR when they already have too many. Bringing him on would have to threaten 2 players in order to make sense.

Best,
-Slashy

I think it certainly does ...

I think this bounces Henderson ( whom I had lost hope of making the 53 anyways due to playing it safe )

I think it cuts Eli out of the equation even though he is on the pup and is an insurance policy at this point

I also think it may cost 1 other job ... I would say DHB but that has to be sounding like a broken record by now ..

it is costing the Steelers a 5th round pick and a 6th from the cowbows according to Alex

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Great return man, and he has elite short area quickness. We know he can really run with it after he catches it. I thought he would be a very good slot receiver coming out of college.

He is certainly worth a shot because I'm not sure Dallas knows what the hell they're doing with WR's since Garrett got there.

I'm not sure Gruden knows what the hell he's doing either to this point.....but he does have Bongtavis….so he's got that going for him.

I agree. Who on the team has that kind of short area quickness in the slot currently? JuJu is big and not really quick. JW, Hunter, DHB and even Patterson are all more suited to the outside.

Switzer brings a skillset in the slot WR position that the Steelers don't currently have on the roster. I bet that is part of the reason for the trade.

[GoSlash27]

I think it certainly does ...

I think this bounces Henderson ( whom I had lost hope of making the 53 anyways due to playing it safe )

I think it cuts Eli out of the equation even though he is on the pup and is an insurance policy at this point

I also think it may cost 1 other job ... I would say DHB but that has to be sounding like a broken record by now ..

it is costing the Steelers a 5th round pick and a 6th from the cowbows according to Alex

DWins,
Not disagreeing with you, but just to clarify my point... What I mean is it would have to save 2 spots on the final 53; one on offense as a receiver and one on ST as a gunner/ returner. Even if he's not as strong at any individual job as the people he'd be replacing, it may still be worth doing.

Best,
-Slashy

[86WARD]

does Tucker even have PS eligibility left ? seems like he has been here forever

I read somewhere that he was still PS eligible.

[DesertSteel]

Either a 5th or a 6th for Switzer. Fowler's post contradicts. He says the Steelers gave up a 5th and Gruden said he expects to get a 6th in return.

That said, I don't like it.

Jeremy Fowler ESPN Staff Writer

The Steelers gave up a fifth-round pick for Ryan Switzer, Raiders coach Jon Gruden told reporters. They are expected to get a sixth-round pick in return, per source. The team needs return-game help, and Switzer ranked third in yards per kickoff return and 12th in yards per punt return last year.

[BlackAndGold]

Either a 5th or a 6th for Switzer. Fowler's post contradicts. He says the Steelers gave up a 5th and Gruden said he expects to get a 6th in return.

That said, I don't like it.

Jeremy Fowler ESPN Staff Writer

The Steelers gave up a fifth-round pick for Ryan Switzer, Raiders coach Jon Gruden told reporters. They are expected to get a sixth-round pick in return, per source. The team needs return-game help, and Switzer ranked third in yards per kickoff return and 12th in yards per punt return last year.

Reason why for the dislike?

[Cyphon25]

Am I reading it right that the Steelers gave up a 5th and will get Switzer and a 6th? If so I suppose that isn't bad. I wouldn't go higher than a 7th for a return guy who is a back end of the roster receiver but a 5th for a 6th isn't terrible if they also get some return value.

That being said, I wouldn't have made the move I don't think.

[86WARD]

Either a 5th or a 6th for Switzer. Fowler's post contradicts. He says the Steelers gave up a 5th and Gruden said he expects to get a 6th in return.

That said, I don't like it.

Jeremy Fowler ESPN Staff Writer

The Steelers gave up a fifth-round pick for Ryan Switzer, Raiders coach Jon Gruden told reporters. They are expected to get a sixth-round pick in return, per source. The team needs return-game help, and Switzer ranked third in yards per kickoff return and 12th in yards per punt return last year.

Switzer is worth a fifth round pick if he ranks third in KO and 12 in Punts. It’s well beyond what they’ve had returning in the past...

[BlackAndGold]

The team needed a returner. They've tried Henderson but he was 'too safe', Sutton fumbled against the Titans, Rogers is still on the PUP list and who knows when he'll be ready to return, and AB is too damn valuable to be back returning punts even though he knows how to avoid hits.

Switzer also bring depth at the slot which was also a need. Wasn't a big need since JuJu will play there when they use 3 WR sets, but still a need.

Also the Raiders more then likely won't be that good, expect the 6th round pick to be early. (While the 5th rounder they sent should be late)

[st33lersguy]

With all the comp picks that will be awarded in the 5th, the amount of picks the Steelers will end up moving back will be more than the amount of targets this guy gets. AB, Juju, Lev Bell, Washington, and the TEs. There is room for maybe 20 targets and 15 catches on this team

[DesertSteel]

Reason why for the dislike?

Price was too high.

Edit to say that if we get Switzer and a 6th in exchange for a 5th, I’m good with that.

[SteelerCountry58]

Haha... jeezus, they are “picks “, mid round at that. Picks no one knows what they will ever become. Far as I’m concerned Switzer already earned his value in “picks”. He has already proven he can be a spark plug and energize every team he had a chance to do so on. He can be very valuable in the slot and returning. The kids got balls of steel,let’s see what he can contribute. I like the pickup and in time our qb’s will too.

[teegre]

Haha... jeezus, they are “picks “, mid round at that. Picks no one knows what they will ever become. Far as I’m concerned Switzer already earned his value in “picks”. He has already proven he can be a spark plug and energize every team he had a chance to do so on. He can be very valuable in the slot and returning. The kids got balls of steel,let’s see what he can contribute. I like the pickup and in time our qb’s will too.

As Shoes and BlackAndGold already stated: many of us liked Switzer coming out of college.

Yancey Thigpen was once picked up in a similar manner: couldn’t catch on in San Diego... and then, found that he was a perfect fit with the Steelers. The same thing can be said for Wes Walker (although, he caught on in Miami). Sometimes, a new venue can do wonders for a player.

[SteelerCountry58]

I agree teegre. Plus love that he is from down the road in WV. You know he’s pumped!

[teegre]

I agree teegre. Plus love that he is from down the road in WV. You know he’s pumped!

Excellent point.

[stillers4me]

[Mojouw]

French Cafe better start packing his bags. Is he still practice squad eligbible?

[Dwinsgames]

French Cafe better start packing his bags. Is he still practice squad eligbible?

who knows .. to complicated for me today ... ( Tucker falls in here someplace too I suspect )


In 2016, the NFL adopted a modification to the practice squad rules that allows up to four players per practice squad to have two accrued seasons, making it easier for teams to have experienced players on their practice squad. In the previous agreement, only two players with two accrued seasons were allowed to be on a practice squad.

Other than those four players, eligibility is limited to players who have been on an active roster for fewer than six games, or were on a 46-man active gameday roster for fewer than nine games.
A player is allowed on the practice squad for up to two years, with one year counting as six weeks in a season. A third year on the practice squad is only allowed if the team keeps 53 players on their active roster at all times (which every team does).

[ALLD]

This is a good deal and much better than wasting a 3rd or 4th round pick chasing somebody in the draft.

[Steeldude]

Low center of gravity, nimble and quick.

Can he catch with his hands? It seems each catch is done with his body.

[teegre]

When I first heard of a “Steelers-Raidahs” trade, I had thought (for a microsecond) that it was Bell for Mack.

[FrancoLambert]

IMO he was obtained to be a returner first and foremost.
We don't have a returner. Watching Croissant returning kicks was a joke.
Anything he supplies as a slot receiver is a bonus.

[hawaiiansteeler]

I was hoping we would have drafted this kid, glad to have him.

I thought you wanted a TE instead?

[Born2Steel]

Henderson and Switzer have very similar measurables according to their combine results. With the new KO rules I understand returner speed means even more now. These guys ran right at 4.5 both. What makes Switzer worthy of a 3rd round pick? It's not size, speed, any ability they bring to an offense. Just to create competition?


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[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Henderson and Switzer have very similar measurables according to their combine results. With the new KO rules I understand returner speed means even more now. These guys ran right at 4.5 both. What makes Switzer worthy of a 3rd round pick? It's not size, speed, any ability they bring to an offense. Just to create competition?


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Switzer had proven he can be productive at returning punts and kicks in NFL regular season. Henderson has shown he can waive for fair catch in NFL preseason. That is pretty much the main difference Switzer will be on the 53 and Henderson will be cut.

[Born2Steel]

Switzer had proven he can be productive at returning punts and kicks in NFL regular season. Henderson has shown he can waive for fair catch in NFL preseason. That is pretty much the main difference Switzer will be on the 53 and Henderson will be cut.

You're thinking is it simply comes down to NFL experience? Is that worth a 3rd rd draft pick in your opinion?


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[Dwinsgames]

You're thinking is it simply comes down to NFL experience? Is that worth a 3rd rd draft pick in your opinion?


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personally I think they wanted a specialist and thats why they brought in Henderson , that said all henderson seemed to do is wave for fair catches ... almost anyone could do that , they want someone who can make something happen with the ball and he just didnt take any chances to prove he " was that guy"

as Gonzo stated Switzer has shown the ability to do so and willingness to do so on an NFL field ...

[pczach]

You're thinking is it simply comes down to NFL experience? Is that worth a 3rd rd draft pick in your opinion?


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They probably think he can develop into an effective slot receiver as well. If they thought the same about Henderson, they wouldn't have traded for Switzer IMO.

[Born2Steel]

personally I think they wanted a specialist and thats why they brought in Henderson , that said all henderson seemed to do is wave for fair catches ... almost anyone could do that , they want someone who can make something happen with the ball and he just didnt take any chances to prove he " was that guy"

as Gonzo stated Switzer has shown the ability to do so and willingness to do so on an NFL field ...

Ok. What about the 3rd round draft pick price tag? Is Switzer, or any return specialist worthy of that? If that had been our 3rd round pick this past draft how would that go over do you think?


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