The Steelers are tired of being the NFL’s most successful failure

[hawaiiansteeler]

The Steelers are tired of being the NFL’s most successful failure

Mike Tomlin and the Steelers had a bad habit of getting ahead of their own Super Bowl aspirations last year. Is it going to be different in Pittsburgh this year?

By Thomas George Aug 9, 2018

LATROBE, Pennsylvania — It is fitting that the Pittsburgh Steelers begin pursuit of a seventh Super Bowl title on Thursday night in a preseason fracas at the Philadelphia Eagles. The Eagles wear the latest Super Bowl rings. The Steelers expect to flash the classic rings each year. Without them, Pittsburgh, by its own towering definition, has slogged through nine straight seasons of failure.

Forget the 13-3 regular season from a year ago.

Don’t dwell on the four straight playoff appearances and 124 total career victories by head coach Mike Tomlin as he enters his 12th Steelers season. Even the Tomlin 2009 Super Bowl victory in his second season as Steelers coach seemed an afterthought here at training camp last week.

“It’s really not that complex,” Tomlin said before practice at Saint Vincent College under the searing sun. “It’s win the world championship. It’s a lot we not only accept but embrace. Anything else is failure.”

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[st33lersguy]

Stop talking about it and just do it already, sheesh.

[Edman]

Great Post in the comments.

They god rid of Martavis Bryant = Less drama
Ben has no retirement thoughts = Less drama in that regard
They got rid of Mike Mitchell = Less drama
They got rid of OC Todd Haley = Less drama on the sideline and with Ben
Bell acknowledged that he started to slow last year and promised a better year = probably less drama there, too.
They also tried to make moves fixing their most important issues last year on defense: Tackling and communication.

I feel like the Steelers are a little bit more prepared than last year. At least they seemed to figure out some stuff and are not totally blind.

I agree with this alot, except they still have Bell being a moron. So it's not completely out of the system.

[Steeldude]

Tomlin's Steelers seem to be more about bragging and/or showboating. It's why you never know if the Steelers will win a game. Will the discipline and focus be there this year?

[hawaiiansteeler]

Tomlin's Steelers seem to be more about bragging and/or showboating. It's why you never know if the Steelers will win a game. Will the discipline and focus be there this year?

Tomlin does run what seems to be a loose ship, I would say maybe that's necessary with today's athletes but Belicheat is successful with a no nonsense approach so I don't know...

[Neversatisfied]

Tomlin's Steelers seem to be more about bragging and/or showboating. It's why you never know if the Steelers will win a game. Will the discipline and focus be there this year?

Discipline has been in short supply for Tomlin run Steeler teams of late and its irritating. The players run their mouths and Tomlin has the same lame excuses and one-liners after losses, for the amount of talent on the team their playoff record is inexcusable and it points straight to Coaching/Discipline.

[Born2Steel]

Last I counted, still in the lead. So "failure" on that!

[Steeldude]

Last I counted, still in the lead. So "failure" on that!

In the lead of what? Failing to live up to the hype? If the Steelers aren't focused again this year they will be watching the SB again.

[Edman]

Last I counted, still in the lead. So "failure" on that!

The only thing the Steelers are in the lead in are disappointing in the postseason. They're the NFL's version of the Pre-2018 Washington Capitals. This isn't 2010 and coming off of two Super Bowl Titles in six years. It's 2018 and this team has fallen short of the goal. Many times.

The last time we saw the team on a field seven months ago they got their face kicked in by the Jaguars the second time at Heinz Field. Mike Tomlin made household names out of Doug Marrone and the almighty Blake Bortles.

It's one thing to be proud, but its time to lay off the arrogance and face reality. This squad has nothing to show for their talent.

[BlackAndGold]

They'll continue to be a postseason failure unless the defense improves. Reason why I don't have them going far in the playoffs if they make it.

This team is very similar to the Dan Bylsma coached Penguins teams.

[Craic]

Panthers went to the playoffs four times between 2013-2017 and The lost once in the wildcard round, twice in divisional rounds, and once in the SB (after being up with a big lead).
Kansas City went to the playoffs four times in the last five years as well. They lost two divisional games and two wild card games (only winning once in those seasons).
Colts went to the playoffs five times between 2009 and 2014. They lost a SB, two wildcard games, a divisional game, and a conference championship.
Falcons went to the playoffs six times in the last ten years. They lost two wildcard games, two divisional games, a championship game, and a SB.
Steelers went to the playoffs four times in the last six years and six times in the last eight years. They lost in the SB once, the two wildcard games, and two divisional games.

Sounds to me as though they are far from a failure. Calling this team a failure in any stretch of the imagination is a joke. Yes, I get the stupid all-or-nothing black-and-white you fail if you don't win the SB. However, the reality of the situation is that only 14 teams have won the SB since 1975. Think about that for a second. in the last 43 years, not even half the teams have won a SB. Moreover, only nine teams have won a SB since 2004. And, the Steelers are in first place in the first list and tied for second in the second list. Failure? Not even close. "Most successful team to fail to make a SB since 2011?" Sure. Failure? What a joke.

[Butch]

Panthers went to the playoffs four times between 2013-2017 and The lost once in the wildcard round, twice in divisional rounds, and once in the SB (after being up with a big lead).
Kansas City went to the playoffs four times in the last five years as well. They lost two divisional games and two wild card games (only winning once in those seasons).
Colts went to the playoffs five times between 2009 and 2014. They lost a SB, two wildcard games, a divisional game, and a conference championship.
Falcons went to the playoffs six times in the last ten years. They lost two wildcard games, two divisional games, a championship game, and a SB.
Steelers went to the playoffs four times in the last six years and six times in the last eight years. They lost in the SB once, the two wildcard games, and two divisional games.

Sounds to me as though they are far from a failure. Calling this team a failure in any stretch of the imagination is a joke. Yes, I get the stupid all-or-nothing black-and-white you fail if you don't win the SB. However, the reality of the situation is that only 14 teams have won the SB since 1975. Think about that for a second. in the last 43 years, not even half the teams have won a SB. Moreover, only nine teams have won a SB since 2004. And, the Steelers are in first place in the first list and tied for second in the second list. Failure? Not even close. "Most successful team to fail to make a SB since 2011?" Sure. Failure? What a joke.

I suppose it depends on your description of failure. I am sure Browns fans would be Happy to win 1/2 their games. Some are happy if their team has a winning record, others are just happy to make the playoffs. To me I am disappointed when I feel we have the more talented team but don't play up to our level and don't advance in the playoffs. I feel that Ben is the Best QB in the league and feel that every year we don't advance is another opportunity missed. To me that is a failure.

[FrancoLambert]

"Failure" may be too extreme.
But, on the other hand, when you are loaded at the skill positions with one of the best QB's, one of the best RB's and THE best WR in the game and you continue to fold in the playoffs, you are certainly not successful.

#chronic underachievement=failure

[EzraTank]

[teegre]

2010: lost to SuperBowl champions
2011: Tebowed
2012: a missed Chiefs FG from playoffs
2013: an AB misstep from playoffs
2014: lost to SuperBowl champions
2015: lost to SuperBowl champions
2016: lost to SuperBowl champions
2017: lost to Jaguars

2012 & 2013 we’re rebuilding years. Even then, they were one play away from making the playoffs in each of those seasons.

The Tebow game was missing 3 starters on defense (Hampton, Keisel, Clark). More importantly, Tebow’s completetions were “miracle” throws. Case in point: Gay was smothering the receiver, but the ball came in at the ONLY angle that the receiver could get it. Give any QB 100 attempts, they miss that throw 99 times... and, Tebow would NEVER make that throw again (given 1 million attempts).

The Jaguars loss hurts, because it was the first time that all three Killer B’s played in a playoff game together. They lived up to the hype (finally), putting up 40 on a verrry good Jaguars defense. Alas, the Steelers defense was a shit show.

SUMMATION:
2011 sucked, but I truly believe “divine intervention” occurred. 2017 was a disappointment. That’s about it.

[Butch]

2010: lost to SuperBowl champions
2011: Tebowed
2012: a missed Chiefs FG from playoffs
2013: an AB misstep from playoffs
2014: lost to SuperBowl champions
2015: lost to SuperBowl champions
2016: lost to SuperBowl champions
2017: lost to Jaguars

2012 & 2013 we’re rebuilding years. Even then, they were one play away from making the playoffs in each of those seasons.

The Tebow game was missing 3 starters on defense (Hampton, Keisel, Clark). More importantly, Tebow’s completetions were “miracle” throws. Case in point: Gay was smothering the receiver, but the ball came in at the ONLY angle that the receiver could get it. Give any QB 100 attempts, they miss that throw 99 times... and, Tebow would NEVER make that throw again (given 1 million attempts).

The Jaguars loss hurts, because it was the first time that all three Killer B’s played in a playoff game together. They lived up to the hype (finally), putting up 40 on a verrry good Jaguars defense. Alas, the Steelers defense was a shit show.

SUMMATION:
2011 sucked, but I truly believe “divine intervention” occurred. 2017 was a disappointment. That’s about it.

Losing to the SuperBowl Champs to me means we should have been the Champs.
Tebowed the game should have never been that close that one play beats you
Missed FG and I would add a bad call by the officials at the end of regulation. Still our team was in that position because of other losses earlier in the year. It should never have come to that.
AB misstep - Again should have won games earlier in the year so that the misstep doesn't set us up for missing the playoffs

[Moose]

For what it's worth, I either read or heard somewhere that James Harrison said that the comparison between Tomlin and Belicheat was like night and day. He commented that Belicheat 'coached', didn't put up with any shit, and every player knew who was 'boss'. Could be some of the reason why the outcome of seasons have been the way they are.

[Mojouw]

For what it's worth, I either read or heard somewhere that James Harrison said that the comparison between Tomlin and Belicheat was like night and day. He commented that Belicheat 'coached', didn't put up with any shit, and every player knew who was 'boss'. Could be some of the reason why the outcome of seasons have been the way they are.

We are talking about the same guy who benched a high level DB for no known reason, then watched a backup QB carve up his secondary all game in the SB? That guy? Let’s talk about his genius some more.


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[teegre]

1. Losing to the SuperBowl Champs to me means we should have been the Champs.
2. Tebowed the game should have never been that close that one play beats you
3. Missed FG and I would add a bad call by the officials at the end of regulation. Still our team was in that position because of other losses earlier in the year. It should never have come to that.
AB misstep - Again should have won games earlier in the year so that the misstep doesn't set us up for missing the playoffs

1. So we are the 1990s Bills.

2. It wasn’t just that last throw to D. Thomas. It was the other five “miracle” throws. (He only completed 10 passes.) Like I said, the TD to Eddie Royal was akin to a blind squirrel finding a nut in a snowstorm.

3. It just goes show you how close the difference truly is between winning & losing. One more first down by the Falcons... one more carry by Beastmode... a few less hours of videotape... and the Taperiots have 0 Lombardis.

[Butch]

1. So we are the 1990s Bills.

2. It wasn’t just that last throw to D. Thomas. It was the other five “miracle” throws. (He only completed 10 passes.) Like I said, the TD to Eddie Royal was akin to a blind squirrel finding a nut in a snowstorm.

3. It just goes show you how close the difference truly is between winning & losing. One more first down by the Falcons... one more carry by Beastmode... a few less hours of videotape... and the Taperiots have 0 Lombardis.

LOL

1. not exactly we did win a couple SuperBowls with Ben just not as many as I would like. I know I'm a spoiled Steeler fan.

2. Yes I agree those 5 throws were unbelievable and as I say never should have happened but they did and we were not playing as expected. Fail

3. Yes but I would have went in a different direction and say losing games early in the year or even playing down to your competition will some day come back to bite you in the butt. Ask Inspector Clouseau

[teegre]

3. Yes but I would have went in a different direction and say losing games early in the year or even playing down to your competition will some day come back to bite you in the butt. Ask Inspector Clouseau

The thing is, in 2012 & 2013, we were rebuilding. Troy was done. Clark was done. Keisel, Hampton, & Farrior were all done. Ergo, IMO, those seasons were pretty successful... and, they were a missed FG/errant misstep away from being very successful seasons.

#greatuseofClouseau

[86WARD]

2010: lost to SuperBowl champions
2011: Tebowed
2012: a missed Chiefs FG from playoffs
2013: an AB misstep from playoffs
2014: lost to SuperBowl champions
2015: lost to SuperBowl champions
2016: lost to SuperBowl champions
2017: lost to Jaguars

2012 & 2013 we’re rebuilding years. Even then, they were one play away from making the playoffs in each of those seasons.

That kinda the definition of a successful failure...so much success yet the ultimate result is failure.

[Edman]

Panthers went to the playoffs four times between 2013-2017 and The lost once in the wildcard round, twice in divisional rounds, and once in the SB (after being up with a big lead).
Kansas City went to the playoffs four times in the last five years as well. They lost two divisional games and two wild card games (only winning once in those seasons).
Colts went to the playoffs five times between 2009 and 2014. They lost a SB, two wildcard games, a divisional game, and a conference championship.
Falcons went to the playoffs six times in the last ten years. They lost two wildcard games, two divisional games, a championship game, and a SB.
Steelers went to the playoffs four times in the last six years and six times in the last eight years. They lost in the SB once, the two wildcard games, and two divisional games.

Those teams have nowhere near the level of all-around talent the Steelers have boasted for the past six years. One of best, most consistent backs in the league, the best WR in the league, a great Offensive Line, and solid defense (that unfortunately underachieves). The Chiefs, Falcons, and Panthers are headed by 1-2 impact players at best.

The most the Steelers have to show for their top talent is one AFC Title game appearance where they got their face planted by New England (again), and despite having most of their impact players, they couldn't beat a nobody Jaguars team at home. Locked in a shootout with the Juggernaut Jaguars Offense. Of all 67 Offensive plays Jacksonville ran, Only ONE went for negative yardage. Outworked. Outphysicaled. Outcoached.

Yes, that is successful failure. Sorry if people are getting tired of it.

[Mojouw]

I love how everyone over estimates the Steelers and under estimates the other teams.

Ben has never been the best QB in the league. Jags are very far from nobodies. They have the best defense in the league and the blueprint for how to build a defense to stop modern offense.

Steelers haven’t had a championship caliber defense since 2009 yet they are in the playoffs and often go on long runs.

Failure. Sure. Yeah. Whatever.

[Butch]

I love how everyone over estimates the Steelers and under estimates the other teams.

Ben has never been the best QB in the league. Jags are very far from nobodies. They have the best defense in the league and the blueprint for how to build a defense to stop modern offense.

Steelers haven’t had a championship caliber defense since 2009 yet they are in the playoffs and often go on long runs.

Failure. Sure. Yeah. Whatever.

Yes Damn the fans who expect the best from the Steelers in big games. Teebow = Failure and how bout those pesky ravens a few years back= Failure, and the Jags are not who you make them out to be. Their Defense gave up 42 points to us and Ben threw for 469 yards, 5 TDs and 1 int in the playoffs. So much for that great Defense. Not exactly shutting us down. They beat us with their run game not their D. Failure

As I stated before and will again...I feel Ben is the Best QB in the league and has been for some time. He may not have the stats, but I really don't care for stats. He does make this team Much better than if we didn't have him. I thank God we were lucky enough to get him and if you don't agree then that's your issue.

[AtlantaDan]

I love how everyone over estimates the Steelers and under estimates the other teams.

Ben has never been the best QB in the league. Jags are very far from nobodies. They have the best defense in the league and the blueprint for how to build a defense to stop modern offense.

Steelers haven’t had a championship caliber defense since 2009 yet they are in the playoffs and often go on long runs.

Failure. Sure. Yeah. Whatever.

Articles on the Steelers being the NFL's "most successful failure" are just sportswriters churning out junk because they have to file something that day

For Steelers fans with a well developed sense of entitlement who believe no team has underachieved like the Steelers, this is the champ for long term playoff failure by a successful team (written before the Chiefs gagged up a 21-3 lead to the Titans at home in the playoffs last season)

The Chiefs have underserved their fans more than any other team in the NFL

The Hunts like to think of the family business like the Pittsburgh Steelers, but their playoff record is much closer to that of the Browns. The Lions, Jets and, yes, Browns are the only clubs to go longer without playing in a Super Bowl. Those three are known nationally as losers in a way the Chiefs have somehow avoided.

The Chiefs have won just one playoff game in 24 years, and that was against Brian Hoyer. They have won two playoff games in 46 years at Arrowhead Stadium, the same number as the Colts.
The Chiefs were the winningest team of the 1990s, and only made it as far as the AFC Championship Game once. Since 1990, no team has lost more playoff games while winning fewer....

The Chiefs have had some terrible teams, and miserable years, but since 1990 only the Packers, Steelers, Colts, Eagles, and Patriots have made it to more postseasons.....

Since the NFL playoffs expanded to the current format, teams with a first-round bye have won 74 percent of the division games. The Chiefs are 0-5 in that spot. Twice they’ve had homefield advantage throughout the playoffs, and bupkis....

This franchise has let its fans down in the playoffs so often it’s hard to keep track, and you end up comparing a blown 28-point lead to a loss without punting or without giving up a touchdown.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...192969549.html

For those with short memories, the reference to the Chiefs losing a playoff game without giving up a touchdown was the Steelers beating the Chiefs at Arrowhead 18-16 on six field goals by Boz.

But it is the Steelers who are the "most successful failure" - got it

[tom444]

For teams like the Steelers you feel they should be rebuilding, heading to a SB, in a SB, or coming off a SB. There shouldn't be a long period where they aren't in one of those positions. It's not good enough to just be one of the perennial playoff teams.

[Hawkman]

For teams like the Steelers you feel they should be rebuilding, heading to a SB, in a SB, or coming off a SB. There shouldn't be a long period where they aren't in one of those positions. It's not good enough to just be one of the perennial playoff teams.

Yep, much rather be a “perennial” basement dweller.

[Dwinsgames]

Yep, much rather be a “perennial” basement dweller.

hey be careful with that sarcasm some of it dripped on my new kicks

[hawaiiansteeler]

Yep, much rather be a “perennial” basement dweller.