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    What does the 53 look like?

    Another thread got me to thinking about what the numbers look like for the 53 man roster.

    QB - 3
    RB - 4
    FB - 1
    TE - 3
    WR - 6
    OL - 9
    Offense - 26

    DL - 5
    OLB - 5
    ILB - 5
    S - 5
    CB- 6
    Defense - 26

    Specialists - 3

    That gets me to 55. So need to trim 2 spots?

    That likely means that 5th ILB goes to the PS and the 6th CB? Or do the keep 6 at CB and go light at safety? Only go with 5 WRs.

    I knew this was more complicated than my original post made it out to be!
    Last edited by Mojouw; 08-06-2018 at 09:55 AM. Reason: I can not do simple math.

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Another thread got me to thinking about what the numbers look like for the 53 man roster.

    QB - 3
    RB - 4
    FB - 1
    TE - 3
    WR - 6
    OL - 9
    Offense - 26

    DL - 5
    OLB - 5
    ILB - 5
    S - 5
    CB- 6
    Defense - 21

    Specialsts - 3

    That gets me to 50. So 3 spots?

    Another DL seems to make sense. Another outside backer? Maybe. A 10th lineman?

    I would def say another D Lineman , and this is where you miss Moats 1 player who could be plugged inside or outside 1 roster spot filling 2 backup pos ...

    dare I say 4 specialists , certainly not the norm for the Steelers but Henderson could have an outside shot making the team as a return man that will sit in WR meetings but rarely see the field in that capacity
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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    I would def say another D Lineman , and this is where you miss Moats 1 player who could be plugged inside or outside 1 roster spot filling 2 backup pos ...

    dare I say 4 specialists , certainly not the norm for the Steelers but Henderson could have an outside shot making the team as a return man that will sit in WR meetings but rarely see the field in that capacity
    No doubt. Unless they start picking up LBers from other teams cuts, looks like the two UDFA's have path to make the final roster. May be that Big Dan gets another go-round as well.

    Return guy -- hadn't thought of that. Guess we will have to see what Henderson looks like in game situations.

    I have also heard that Coty Sensabaugh is making it hard to cut him so far.

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    No doubt. Unless they start picking up LBers from other teams cuts, looks like the two UDFA's have path to make the final roster. May be that Big Dan gets another go-round as well.

    Return guy -- hadn't thought of that. Guess we will have to see what Henderson looks like in game situations.

    I have also heard that Coty Sensabaugh is making it hard to cut him so far.
    well not sure you heard but a few days ago Big Dan got into a fight in camp ...

    Yes !!!!

    Imagine if this Gentle Giant has somehow found his mean streak ?

    hmmm
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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Another thread got me to thinking about what the numbers look like for the 53 man roster.

    DL - 5
    OLB - 5
    ILB - 5
    S - 5
    CB- 6
    Defense - 21
    hate to break this to you but that equals 26

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    hate to break this to you but that equals 26
    Maybe he counted the ILBs and Safetys as one?
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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    hate to break this to you but that equals 26


    Okay... I continue to have problems with posting. It used to be just when I would cut & paste, but now this video (which I’ve posted previously) isn’t working.


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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    hate to break this to you but that equals 26
    Maths is not so good to me...

    ..Okay so that didn't work.

    So now, have to trim two spots.

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    hate to break this to you but that equals 26
    So in actuality, Mo needs to take away two. Boy that sucks for those two. If MY math is correct.

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    DL will probably carry 6
    OLB with 4. Watt has had to sit out a TC session due to injury and Bud has been put on concussion protocol. Lean toward 4 but there could be an extra DE too.
    ILB with 4. Fort is already 3rd string and was passed over for Spence last year. I think one of the PS guys gets his spot this year.
    CB carry 6.
    Safeties keep 4/5. Been reading about some good battles at DB spots. Drafted 2 safeties and brought in 2 FA safeties. Also had Hilton and Sutton taking safety reps in TC.

    25 ON DEFENSE.

    QB, we always carry 3.
    RB will carry 3 plus Nix. 4 total.
    WR always keeps 5/6.
    TE Convinced we keep 3 after bringing in Hodges.
    OL I think we usually keep 8

    24 ON OFFENSE

    4 Specialists

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    I hope michael thomas makes it

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    These exercises show how important 2–5 more game day hats could be...not only for convenience but for player safety...

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    These exercises show how important 2–5 more game day hats could be...not only for convenience but for player safety...
    I’ve never understood why you can’t dress the whole roster.


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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    I hope michael thomas makes it
    Who is Michael Thomas again?

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Who is Michael Thomas again?
    the athletic Linebacker from florida st ( Mathew) Michael was a reserve safety for the dolphins
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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    I hope michael thomas makes it
    Alan: With a strong showing in the preseason games, can you see a scenario where Matthew Thomas ends of starting at some point in the season?

    Ray Fittipaldo: Matthew Thomas has done well at camp, but no, I can't envision a scenario where he starts this year. I'm not even sure he's going to make the 53-man roster. Maybe he will, but I think practice squad is more likely.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/s...s/201808060113

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    the athletic Linebacker from florida st ( Mathew) Michael was a reserve safety for the dolphins
    I went to the roster to look him up. I saw Matthew, didn't know if that was the same guy.

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Ed B. of the P-G says the final 53 better include an offensive tackle who is not currently on the roster or the Steelers are flirting with disaster if AV or Gilbert gets injured

    A decent veteran might not surface on cutdown day next month, and not having a No. 3 tackle who could capably replace an injured starter could endanger Roethlisberger and a 2018 season brimming with promise.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/s...s/201808080117

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    Ed B. of the P-G says the final 53 better include an offensive tackle who is not currently on the roster or the Steelers are flirting with disaster if AV or Gilbert gets injured

    A decent veteran might not surface on cutdown day next month, and not having a No. 3 tackle who could capably replace an injured starter could endanger Roethlisberger and a 2018 season brimming with promise.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/s...s/201808080117
    This season is brimming with tragic possibilities. The depth is very poor right now.

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    Ed B. of the P-G says the final 53 better include an offensive tackle who is not currently on the roster or the Steelers are flirting with disaster if AV or Gilbert gets injured

    A decent veteran might not surface on cutdown day next month, and not having a No. 3 tackle who could capably replace an injured starter could endanger Roethlisberger and a 2018 season brimming with promise.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/s...s/201808080117
    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    This season is brimming with tragic possibilities. The depth is very poor right now.
    Wonder if this based on anything other than Ed B reading the depth chart and seeing a rookie and other names he doesn't recognize.

    Has anyone heard anything from practice that all OTs not named AV and Gilbert have been overmatched? I mean someone has to have been playing LT with the first string while AV has been missing time with his shoulder soreness.

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Wonder if this based on anything other than Ed B reading the depth chart and seeing a rookie and other names he doesn't recognize.

    Has anyone heard anything from practice that all OTs not named AV and Gilbert have been overmatched? I mean someone has to have been playing LT with the first string while AV has been missing time with his shoulder soreness.
    Even if Okorafor is having a lights out camp, Bouchette's point that going with Plan C for the #3 tackle (after Hawkins went down and Bryce Harris could not pass the conditioning test) is risky seems legit to me. Let's see how it goes after the first two exhibition games as opposed to whatever is going on in camp

    Bottom line is that the Steelers are screwed under the cap this year by paying Bell's franchise tag salary and (thank goodness for Shazier) paying out $8 million for a player who will not play. So no surprise depth is a recurring concern.

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Most NFL teams want to improve their #3 tackle spot. Hell some are searching for a starting tackle. We were lucky to have Hubbard last season.


    Really hope Dobbs plays well enough in the PS that some team may have interest via trade. Could land a depth tackle there.
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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    Most NFL teams want to improve their #3 tackle spot. Hell some are searching for a starting tackle. We were lucky to have Hubbard last season.

    Really hope Dobbs plays well enough in the PS that some team may have interest via trade. Could land a depth tackle there.
    Other than a clown show like the Browns, hard to see why a team would trade a decent player when Dobbs likely is going to be exposed as a waiver wire pickup - garbage time draft pick is best return I see for Dobbs before he is cut loose

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    Even if Okorafor is having a lights out camp, Bouchette's point that going with Plan C for the #3 tackle (after Hawkins went down and Bryce Harris could not pass the conditioning test) is risky seems legit to me. Let's see how it goes after the first two exhibition games as opposed to whatever is going on in camp

    Bottom line is that the Steelers are screwed under the cap this year by paying Bell's franchise tag salary and (thank goodness for Shazier) paying out $8 million for a player who will not play. So no surprise depth is a recurring concern.
    I'm not sure that the salary cap is really to blame. I mean it doesn't help, but look at the biggest concerns about depth.

    OL - Hubbard was leaving to go start somewhere. There was no way he was coming back at almost any salary to play swing tackle. Which was fine, until Hawkins got hurt. That is just a matter of player progression and bad injury luck than a pure cap issue.

    ILB - they don't have good players there because they have done a poor job of identifying good ILBs. Maybe a bit of cap space would have helped them sign Bostic + another Bostic type, but does that really help?

    OLB - Moats is the only guy who wasn't brought back. Again, I am not certain that was really a solely cap $$ issue. They seem to want to go younger at the position and Moats was blocking guys.

    I think their depth issues are primarily at places where there have been injuries or thin draft classes.

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    Other than a clown show like the Browns, hard to see why a team would trade a decent player when Dobbs likely is going to be exposed as a waiver wire pickup - garbage time draft pick is best return I see for Dobbs before he is cut loose
    If Dobbs plays 'well'(key word here) some desperate team could come calling.

    But I doubt Dobbs shows a lot but I'm holding out hope.
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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Wonder if this based on anything other than Ed B reading the depth chart and seeing a rookie and other names he doesn't recognize.

    Has anyone heard anything from practice that all OTs not named AV and Gilbert have been overmatched? I mean someone has to have been playing LT with the first string while AV has been missing time with his shoulder soreness.


    I love how guys like Bouchette make these declarations before they even play a single snap against another team in real game situations.

    Almost every time this guy says something in regard to draft picks or young talent, I get the feeling that my mother has seen as much tape on them as he has. He seems to have no intimate knowledge of players abilities, and often says things that don't match what my eyes tell me when I see the same guy play that he is talking about.

    He becomes more irrelevant every year as he seems to bring less and less to the table IMO.

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    I love how guys like Bouchette make these declarations before they even play a single snap against another team in real game situations.

    Almost every time this guy says something in regard to draft picks or young talent, I get the feeling that my mother has seen as much tape on them as he has. He seems to have no intimate knowledge of players abilities, and often says things that don't match what my eyes tell me when I see the same guy play that he is talking about.

    He becomes more irrelevant every year as he seems to bring less and less to the table IMO.
    It is getting harder and harder to take his Q&A answers without heaping helpings of salt.

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Regular brain hot take - Steelers are running a risk by not trading for a capable #3 tackle in the event AV or Gilbert get hurt

    Galaxy brain hot take - Steelers should trade for a competent #3 tackle and run the risk of going with a backup QB with zero regular season NFL snaps in the event Ben gets hurt

    A 'win-win' trade between the Steelers and Vikings? Makes sense to us!

    If we understand [Bouchette's] logic, the team can hardly expect its remaining developmental OTs to be NFL-ready in time to protect Ben Roethlisberger from violent assault in Cleveland or to open holes for Le’Veon Bell. We agree....

    He suggests that the Steelers trade for a capable OT, and we’d like to propose one: Steelers backup QB Landry Jones for Vikings utility tackle Rashod Hill....

    Both Jones and Hill are on the last year of their current contracts. The Steelers are unlikely to resign Jones with Mason Rudolph waiting in the wings. It, therefore, makes sense to gamble on losing one more year of his improved play and reliability in exchange for gaining adding insurance toward protecting Ben.

    https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/20...s-sense-to-us/

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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

    Wonder what Flozell Adams is up to?
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    Re: What does the 53 look like?

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    Wonder what Flozell Adams is up to?
    Probably near 5 bills.

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