Le'Veon Bell Preseason Training Update

[DesertSteel]

For a person of Bell’s rap talents and status?? Yeah...lol. Just imagine the cuts that didn’t make the album...

Well his yearly holdouts afford him lots of free time.

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Perfect season for me would be Steelers win the Super Bowl and Bell goes for 700 yards and 3.5 YPC.

[HollywoodSteel]

Sorry to ask a question that might have been answered elsewhere - and sorry to momentarily derail the humorous hatefest - but in a world where Bell has a great year and will command a big deal on the open market... what is the real risk of putting a first round transition tag on Bell? Is there a chance that NO ONE will make an offer to Bell? We simply don’t match it and get a first round pick, rather than a probable 3rd round compensatory pick?

In the unlikely case that no one even makes an OFFER, we pay Bell 17.something million for one year in his absolute prime. Which isn’t the worst of all worlds. If he pouts and doesn’t sign it... fine. We didn’t actually want him to anyway?

I’m I missing something obvious?

[Dwinsgames]

Sorry to ask a question that might have been answered elsewhere - and sorry to momentarily derail the humorous hatefest - but in a world where Bell has a great year and will command a big deal on the open market... what is the real risk of putting a first round transition tag on Bell? Is there a chance that NO ONE will make an offer to Bell? We simply don’t match it and get a first round pick, rather than a probable 3rd round compensatory pick?

In the unlikely case that no one even makes an OFFER, we pay Bell 17.something million for one year in his absolute prime. Which isn’t the worst of all worlds. If he pouts and doesn’t sign it... fine. We didn’t actually want him to anyway?

I’m I missing something obvious?

good to see ya !!

here is a bit of tag info and its ramifications ....

as I see it the red is the only one with any merrit at this point , nobody is going to give up 2 first round picks for a non QB IMO and the fact Bell has received the tag 2 years running that 144% of prior year on the 3rd tag is a poison pill a team should never consider for any pos other than QB and even then its not to bright IMO

• An "exclusive" franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position as of a date in April of the current year in which the tag will apply, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. Exclusive franchise players cannot negotiate with other teams. The player's team has all the negotiating rights to the exclusive player.
• A "non-exclusive" franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five cap hits at the player's position for the previous five years applied to the current salary cap, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. A non-exclusive franchise player may negotiate with other NFL teams, but if the player signs an offer sheet from another team, the original team has a right to match the terms of that offer, or if it does not match the offer and thus loses the player, is entitled to receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.
• Under the Capped years a team can designate one additional player only as a transitional tag. A transition player must be offered a minimum of the average of the top 10 salaries of the prior season at the player's position or 120 percent of the player's prior year's salary, whichever is greater. A transition player designation gives the club a first-refusal right to match within seven days an offer sheet given to the player by another club after his contract expires. If the club matches, it retains the player. If it does not match, it receives no compensation.
• Consecutive franchise tags are allowed; however, for a player to be tagged two straight years, the team must pay 120 percent of the player's previous salary. If it is three-straight years, the team must pay the player 144 percent of his previous salary, or an average of the top 5 salaries at the highest paid position (likely QB) - whichever is highest. ^[2]

[HollywoodSteel]

Okay, thanks for clarifying the translation tag thing with no compensation.

But since I’m not EXACTLY sure how to interpret all that, I’ll ask you to do it for me.

I had read something about the version where we get two first rd picks. How do we test that theory? Meaning how much money would be on the hook for in that version if no one is willing to give up the 2 picks?

Can we pull that deal if no one bites before Bell signs it?

Are there any scenarios where we get more than the normal 3rd round compensatory pick?

I assume if it were possible more people would be talking about it.

[HollywoodSteel]

I guess what I’m asking is can we still do the “non exclusive tag” at this point after tagging him exclusively twice?

In that version we only have to pay 120% if no one bites. Or so I interpret it.

What ever happened to the version where the team could DECIDE different prices for 1st down compensation offer, or 2nd round, etc? Why is there only the option that another team had to give up 2 first round picks?

Was the version I’m talking about in a former CBA and that changed?

[HollywoodSteel]

I’m guessing, at this point, many fans are wishing the Steelers had done the non- exclusive franchise tag THIS YEAR.

Obviously too late now... but I’m sure some would much rather have two first round picks than what we have now: retaining Bell this year and a compensatory 3 when he leaves next year.

And if no other team had offered Bell a contract, we’d be in the situation we are in now... and Bell MIGHT have been a little humbled. Probably not. But maybe.

[Dwinsgames]

I guess what I’m asking is can we still do the “non exclusive tag” at this point after tagging him exclusively twice?

In that version we only have to pay 120% if no one bites. Or so I interpret it.

What ever happened to the version where the team could DECIDE different prices for 1st down compensation offer, or 2nd round, etc? Why is there only the option that another team had to give up 2 first round picks?

Was the version I’m talking about in a former CBA and that changed?

thats the restricted free agent tenure offer where you can decide what round to pay a player at and what you get in compensation if he signs elsewhere ...

non exclusive is the only plausible way he is here next year IMO but it seems like we are setting ourselves up to move on with the types of backs we are drafting the past 2 years

[st33lersguy]

get back to work le'veon

[HollywoodSteel]

thats the restricted free agent tenure offer where you can decide what round to pay a player at and what you get in compensation if he signs elsewhere ...

non exclusive is the only plausible way he is here next year IMO but it seems like we are setting ourselves up to move on with the types of backs we are drafting the past 2 years

Okay, so would Bell have been a restricted free agent the first year they franchise tagged him... so the Steelers tagged him so they didn’t have to deal with matching offers? Or do rookie contracts end with full free agency rather than restricted?

And just so you understand, my point was not about trying to KEEP Bell in 2019, but how to get the most we can get in compensation, KNOWING that another team might be willing to give up draft picks... but risking having to pay keep him for about 17 mil, rather than a regular third time franchise tag for like $20 mil.

If that isn’t an option, then yeah, I know they’ll let him hit free agency and the Steelers will get probably a third round compensatory pick for him when he signs somewhere else.

[HollywoodSteel]

Now to be really specific... Do the Steelers have the option of tagging Bell with the non exclusive tag in 2019 (or does a team NOT have that option if they already tagged a player with the exclusive tag two years in a row)

Now, IF the Steelers tag do tag him with the Non exclusive tag... and no other teams offer Bell a contract (if a team DOES make an offer, then my plan is we DON’T match the offer and walk away with 2 first round picks. Yay!) do we then have to keep him in 2019 at like $17 mil, rather than the BIG EXCLUSIVE TAG price of like $20 mil?

Maybe the Steelers wouldn’t risk having to keep him at $17 mil. I’m just saying it might be worth trying it for the shot at 2 first round picks... if we guessed wrong, we keep Bell at $17 mil for one year.

Anyway, pointless to speculate about now anyway.

[Dwinsgames]

Now to be really specific... Do the Steelers have the option of tagging Bell with the non exclusive tag in 2019 (or does a team NOT have that option if they already tagged a player with the exclusive tag two years in a row)

Now, IF the Steelers tag do tag him with the Non exclusive tag... and no other teams offer Bell a contract (if a team DOES make an offer, then my plan is we DON’T match the offer and walk away with 2 first round picks. Yay!) do we then have to keep him in 2019 at like $17 mil, rather than the BIG EXCLUSIVE TAG price of like $20 mil?

Maybe the Steelers wouldn’t risk having to keep him at $17 mil. I’m just saying it might be worth trying it for the shot at 2 first round picks... if we guessed wrong, we keep Bell at $17 mil for one year.

Anyway, pointless to speculate about now anyway.

nobody will give up 2 first round pick and pay bell a ridiculous contract on top of it ..... just will not happen ,

then you have to consider Bell will turn 29 in the 2019 season ( teams are already thinking this dude is nuts if he thinks he is getting a huge contract over several years with a big guaranteed $$ amount )

so more than one obstacle ....AGE ....Compensation of 2 firsts....past workload..... contract demands.... injury history.... 1 toke away from sitting a significant amount of time

[AtlantaDan]

Another grueling day of training as Bell prepares to hit the ground running when he reports

[Butch]

Another grueling day of training as Bell prepares to hit the ground running when he reports

If you click on the twitter the comments are classic.

[Fire Goodell]

If you click on the twitter the comments are classic.

[Lady Steel]

If you click on the twitter the comments are classic.

[steelreserve]

Another grueling day of training as Bell prepares to hit the ground running when he reports

Well, I'm glad to see he has some free time between putting in 18-hour days at the particle accelerator.

[fansince'76]

"Get your ass to camp adapter."

[Dwinsgames]

"Get your ass to camp adapter."

a few ok several I got a kick out of

Meet me in Latrobe, PA and I got u...

I got you...but it's going to be twice as much as it's really worth, fully guaranteed up front

Are you serious? Playing video games while your team is preparing to make a Super Bowl run...what are you fifteen years old? Hahaha

How old are you 12? This is the problem.. #growTFU

I do, but I'm trying to reset the market on the wii U adapter because I feel that I use it better than anyone else. Therefore my asking price is $20 million ...

Wow, can you not afford it? Maybe you should get back to camp then and sign your contract

I heard there's a guy in Latrobe with one. #gotowork

Have fun playing with your Wii Wii

You should be at St. Vincents with your teammates. Don't you remember how you started last year?

I do. Retails for 20 bucks, but I'm charging 40 because it is both the best controller AND adapter in the world.

[st33lersguy]

I have a controller, I just don't show it to locker room cancers with shitty rap songs