1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh
Why burn the tapes? Unfortunately that's a question that will never be answered. They knew every freaking play before we snapped the ball, Hines Ward was quoted as saying they were calling our plays before we finished lining up.
Really hard to deny the greatness of brady, even If he and the rest of the organization doesn't have an ounce of class. bellichick and his greatness in scheming as well as getting the most out of otherwise average players but there is no question he has been super clutch and has delivered on the biggest stage multiple times. Yeah, they are greatly helped by the fact that the rest of the afc east has been a joke and that the afc has been overall weak (and right now currently a dumpster fire) but Brady still steps up
It looks better because it is better. You think 5-3 is better because there’s three runner-ups. Runner up doesn’t mean jack. Just ask the Bills.
I dont need a youtube to know that the Patriots have been penalized for cheating twice. Doesn’t mean they aren’t great. Just like Barry Bonds was great even without the cheating. But there will always be an asterisk*. All cheaters have one.
1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh
I would probably tilt that one to 5-3. Two extra wins is much greater than just one. One extra win while having three more losses doesn't work for me.
But there are variables that would change my mind about the 3-0 vs. 5-3. For instance, I'd take Joe Gibbs 3-0 over Belichick's 5-3 because the latter had Tom Brady and the former had three different QBs who were little more than journeymen.
It's not all black and white.
1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh
Let's talk about another comparison:
Big Ben 2-1
Elway 2-3
Who has the better Super Bowl record?
I agree that they hate losing, but I am pretty sure that most would take a chance to win and come out with a loss in a title game over not even having the chance to compete for a title.
Think about it this way. Brady was 5-3, Montana was 4-0. In comparison, Montana was no better than the Cleveland Browns who had the same amount of chances to win a title game in those 4 years.
Damn right Montana would have played given the chance.
If you aren't willing to compete for a title, why are you playing?
I know what the conversation is about, and you are saying that having a pristine record matters. Everyone else is telling you that it doesn't. Being 4-0 is nothing more than a boast. My dad can beat up your dad. You are having trouble seeing that both dads are awesome in their own ways.
Yes, losing sucks but having had the chance to win does mean something to many people. It just doesn't to you, which is cool. You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that.
I don't think anyone's saying that people would rather not compete for a title if they lose. It's that losing the championship doesn't make you good.
For that matter, when you win, a lot more goes into your overall "greatness" standing than the fact that you won. Robery Horry win 7 NBA championships with zero losses, but nobody except an idiot would say he's better than Michael Jordan at 6-0.
How much was the individual player responsible for the team's success? That's where I'd say Brady's contribution is greatly, greatly overrated. Never been a more right-place, right-time player in the history of professional sports.
Since someone will inevitably ask - 70% system/coaching, 20% cheating, 10% Brady. That's how I would break it down. Any halfway decent QB would do.
See you Space Cowboy ...