Wonderlic test scores of 2018 NFL Draft QBs leaked

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

The higher the score the better the chance of QB success relatively speaking. I would not risk resources in a QB with a score of 13, but maybe an OL.

O line I believe is the position that has the 2nd highest wonderlic average. Lots more thinking and decision making done on the O line than people think. D-line is more of a place where the Warren Sapp's of the world can excel, despite spelling Cat with a K.

[teegre]

the Warren Sapp's of the world can excel, despite spelling Cat with a K.

[EzraTank]

It's a culturally biased test. While I often don't put stock in "cultural bias" and other things, in this case, it is very true. I just took an example test that asked questions such as "Which of the following does not relate to a triangle: obtuse, Rhombus, etc. etc." It is only through reading certain types of texts or being around certain elements that a person knows the answer is rhombus. Another one was "which state is on the West coast." That question has nothing to do with intelligence. If a person lives on the West coast, or reads, or has looked at a map, it's easy. However, for people who had no reason to pay attention to geography, it is a meaningless question.

There are culturally unbiased tests that are much better for this type of thing. Those tests just look for pattern recognition, which makes a lot more sense for a football player as their whole game is dependent on quick pattern recognition and breaks in patterns.

What? I'm sorry but if you're a grown adult and you can't identify a state on the West coast I would question your intelligence as well. Now if the kid was from another nation maybe I give them a pass but if you were born and raised here ...

I'm not saying you have to score a 48 on the test like Fitzpatrick, but I'd at least look for average or slightly below.

Frank Gore scored a 6, but his job isn't complicated. Block guy running at your QB or take ball and run where big guys are not.

[Craic]

What? I'm sorry but if you're a grown adult and you can't identify a state on the West coast I would question your intelligence as well. Now if the kid was from another nation maybe I give them a pass but if you were born and raised here ...

I'm not saying you have to score a 48 on the test like Fitzpatrick, but I'd at least look for average or slightly below.

Frank Gore scored a 6, but his job isn't complicated. Block guy running at your QB or take ball and run where big guys are not.

The fact that you recognize a kid from another nation would not know the answer or is more likely not to know proves the point the test is a knowledge test rather than an intelligence test. As such, it IS culturally biased. And because it that, the wonderlic test really doesn't make sense as an NFL measuring tool. If people are really concerned, use something that bypasses knowledge and tests the intelligence instead.

[Dwinsgames]

The fact that you recognize a kid from another nation would not know the answer or is more likely not to know proves the point the test is a knowledge test rather than an intelligence test. As such, it IS culturally biased. And because it that, the wonderlic test really doesn't make sense as an NFL measuring tool. If people are really concerned, use something that bypasses knowledge and tests the intelligence instead.

perhaps the test should be on more level ground ...

based it entirely on the game of football , its rules , its formations , player responsibilities within those roles ...

I mean they do not give you a wonderlic before getting a drivers license they give you a test based upon driving and responsibilities of a driver and there is a pass fail built into the test .

lets be honest their are people who are not particularly bright but do have " football smarts"

a linguistics major probably will not score incredibly well on a math test and a math major probably will not do well being tested on the French revolution that makes neither of them dumb it just makes them not suited well to take work in one field or the other ..

the wonderlic has about as much to do with football as a drivers test has to do with the french revolution

I do not care ( nor should care ) if you can build a rocket but I do care if you have a rocket of an arm if you know what to do with it /when /where and to whom as it pertains to football because after all that is the game you are being evaluated to play

[Craic]

perhaps the test should be on more level ground ...

based it entirely on the game of football , its rules , its formations , player responsibilities within those roles ...

See, now that makes sense. Is it culturally biased still? Yes. However, it's set within the very culture in which players are about to take part, so it would be a very good indicator whether they could succeed at that level. You can still throw in logic games because they're necessary. "This series of hand signals means A, This series means B, this series means C, this series means D, etc. through, say, M (some series counter others while other series work together). Before the snap, the Defensive coach signals in the following manner. What is he asking for?

[ALLD]

It is rumored on the test the extra credit question is to interpret the Catch Rule.

[teegre]

perhaps the test should be on more level ground ...

based it entirely on the game of football , its rules , its formations , player responsibilities within those roles ...

I mean they do not give you a wonderlic before getting a drivers license they give you a test based upon driving and responsibilities of a driver and there is a pass fail built into the test .

lets be honest their are people who are not particularly bright but do have " football smarts"

a linguistics major probably will not score incredibly well on a math test and a math major probably will not do well being tested on the French revolution that makes neither of them dumb it just makes them not suited well to take work in one field or the other ..

the wonderlic has about as much to do with football as a drivers test has to do with the french revolution

I do not care ( nor should care ) if you can build a rocket but I do care if you have a rocket of an arm if you know what to do with it /when /where and to whom as it pertains to football because after all that is the game you are being evaluated to play

Bingo!!!

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