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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Yes... yes, he is.

    We have discussed how Rashaan Evans can play OLB/ ILB... well, Edmunds is even more versatile. I'd love ot see him paired up on the same defense as TJ Watt.

    Let's add his brother, too.

    R1: Tremaine Edmunds, ILB, VaTech
    R2: Terrell Edmunds, S, VaTech

    (Alas... Tremaine should be gone by 28.)



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    I had no idea anyone actually saw me do that!

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    Breakdown of Jefferson. Lack of coverage is a concern but I like some of the tackles he made

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    Re: The Draft!

    1. Safety (Justin Reid?)
    2. Jerome Baker, ILB, OSU (he may be considered a early 2nd round pick)
    3. Darius Leonard, ILB, SCS

    Revamp the ILB group with fast LB's, which is needed in today's NFL. You'll see how much the defense improves by doing so.

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    I like RB Nick Chubb in the 2nd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    I like RB Nick Chubb in the 2nd.
    Bell is going to be tagged.

    Maybe a late round RB.

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    Even with the tag....depending on how they feel about Conner at this point. Which how could they know much as little as he played. If taking a RB, set your sights on 2-3 that fit what we do, and take the best option, in the round that makes sense for his value to US. Bell is probably gone 2019, Conner and 'RBX' will maybe play as a tandem starting then. You still want the quality RB, not MrBackup.

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    They used a 3rd round pick on a Conner to back up Bell. I'd be surprised if they took another RB highly to back up Conner(or vice versa) & Bell.

    Ridley could be re-signed which will be cheap, Fitz will more than likely be back. Running back is low on the priority list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    They used a 3rd round pick on a RB to back up Bell. I'd be surprised if they took another RB highly to back up Conner(or vice versa) & Bell.

    Ridley could be re-signed which will be cheap, Fitz will more than likely be back. Running back is low on the priority list.
    You may be right. I think it depends on Bell right now though. Currently, the only RB we have under contract(unless I'm missing something recent) is Conner. I think it is a higher priority today than TE or even Safety.

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    DEFENSE COACHING changes !

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    Bell is going to be tagged.

    Maybe a late round RB.
    Salary cap is a bigger mess than I realized until I looked at it more closely - tough to fit Bell's tag cost under it with other 2018 expenses

    RB in second round unless Bell is signed to a long term deal by draft day

    ILB in first round

    Take care of safety replacement for Mitchell (released for both production and $5 million cap savings) through free agency

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    Salary cap is a bigger mess than I realized until I looked at it more closely - tough to fit Bell's tag cost under it with other 2018 expenses

    RB in second round unless Bell is signed to a long term deal by draft day

    ILB in first round

    Take care of safety replacement for Mitchell (released for both production and $5 million cap savings) through free agency
    I expect room to be made by contract restructures and a Ben extension(which would lower his cap hit correct? not a cap expert). I just don't see them not tagging Bell.

    Cutting MM would also surprise me. Can't see Colbert going into the draft with just Golden and Davis starting as the safeties, not his M.O.

    It'll be interesting to see how they'll handle this. I'm sure some 'report' will come out about this situation soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    I expect room to be made by contract restructures and a Ben extension(which would lower his cap hit correct? not a cap expert). I just don't see them not tagging Bell.

    Cutting MM would also surprise me. Can't see Colbert going into the draft with just Golden and Davis starting as the safeties, not his M.O.

    It'll be interesting to see how they'll handle this. I'm sure some 'report' will come out about this situation soon.
    Mitchell has to go for the cap savings alone - someone will be signed for ILB or safety in free agency - will not expect to fill both through draft

    FYI are two links to the cap situation - in hindsight Steelers put all their chips on winning in 2017

    Do you think the Steelers are sitting pretty regarding their salary cap situation? Well, think again.
    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...ike-tomlin-nfl

    https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/pittsburgh-steelers/

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    I like RB Nick Chubb in the 2nd.
    I like the other Georgia back Sony michel due to Home run potential. Dude is fast. Kerryon johnson good also. I would rather see them wait til later rounds for those guys than waste early pick on a Bryce love, or the guy from LSU, Barkley obviously will be long gone. There are some solid rb’s that will be available in rounds 3 and 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    Salary cap is a bigger mess than I realized until I looked at it more closely - tough to fit Bell's tag cost under it with other 2018 expenses

    RB in second round unless Bell is signed to a long term deal by draft day

    ILB in first round

    Take care of safety replacement for Mitchell (released for both production and $5 million cap savings) through free agency
    That's the golden ticket for the team. The tag can always be revoked if a RB falls to the Steelers. 'Bell gets franchise tagged, Bell 2.0 gets drafted, Steelers untag Bell, Bell is now officially on the streets'. IMO, this is a worse case scenario because we just let the best RB walk for no return. But, it seems to me, this will be the scenario, OR Bell plays for 1 more year on the franchise tag. I see no other option unless the most unlikely deal gets made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubanstogie View Post
    I like the other Georgia back Sony michel due to Home run potential. Dude is fast. Kerryon johnson good also. I would rather see them wait til later rounds for those guys than waste early pick on a Bryce love, or the guy from LSU, Barkley obviously will be long gone. There are some solid rb’s that will be available in rounds 3 and 4
    I'm a Michel fan also. He could end up a Steeler, IMO. If we do cut ties with Bell this offseason, I would like to go to a 2 back system, more how the Titans, Saints, Pats, Jags, etc, use their RBs.

    One problem with waiting is we don't currently have a 4th round pick. So to get a premier skills RB, we would need to draft him in the first 3 rounds. Or try to land a diamond in the rough in the 5th round. As of right now, we only have Conner under contract. I think I see a bigger need at RB than the majority on here do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubanstogie;633593[B
    ]I like the other Georgia back Sony michel due to Home run potential.[/B] Dude is fast. Kerryon johnson good also. I would rather see them wait til later rounds for those guys than waste early pick on a Bryce love, or the guy from LSU, Barkley obviously will be long gone. There are some solid rb’s that will be available in rounds 3 and 4
    Me too.

    At the start of the college season I would have also said Chubb.

    At the end, I liked what I saw from Michel.....more big play potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrancoLambert View Post
    Me too.

    At the start of the college season I would have also said Chubb.

    At the end, I liked what I saw from Michel.....more big play potential.
    Yep - Chubb and Michel both had big days against the chump Oklahoma defense but when Georgia came up against Alabama and the quality of athletes seen in the NFL Chubb had problems (18 carries/25 yards) but Michel performed (14 caries/98 yards) - some UGA fans were frustrated Georgia coaches stuck with the two back system in the championship game rather than just going with Michel later in the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I'm a Michel fan also. He could end up a Steeler, IMO. If we do cut ties with Bell this offseason, I would like to go to a 2 back system, more how the Titans, Saints, Pats, Jags, etc, use their RBs.

    One problem with waiting is we don't currently have a 4th round pick. So to get a premier skills RB, we would need to draft him in the first 3 rounds. Or try to land a diamond in the rough in the 5th round. As of right now, we only have Conner under contract. I think I see a bigger need at RB than the majority on here do.
    I think rb over te, this year not good for te’s. I have no problem with mc Donald and jj as te next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubanstogie View Post
    I like the other Georgia back Sony michel due to Home run potential. Dude is fast. Kerryon johnson good also. I would rather see them wait til later rounds for those guys than waste early pick on a Bryce love, or the guy from LSU, Barkley obviously will be long gone. There are some solid rb’s that will be available in rounds 3 and 4

    I like Michel much more than Chubb as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    1. Safety (Justin Reid?)
    He is my favorite safety in this draft (besides, you know, Minkah Fitzpatrick). He can play FS or SS (or CB). His versatility allows DCs to get creative (which can confuse QBs).

    On one play, he is in the box (while Davis drops back as the FS). On second down, he covers a receiver. On third down, he plays centerfield. And... since Davis is equally as versatile (although restricted, IMO, due to Mitchell not being versitile), you’d have a scary good pair of safeties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    He is my favorite safety in this draft (besides, you know, Minkah Fitzpatrick). He can play FS or SS (or CB). His versatility allows DCs to get creative (which can confuse QBs).

    On one play, he is in the box (while Davis drops back as the FS). On second down, he covers a receiver. On third down, he plays centerfield. And... since Davis is equally as versatile (although restricted, IMO, due to Mitchell not being versitile), you’d have a scary good pair of safeties.
    I watched just one Stanford game this year and I seen Reid make a nice interception. Wish there was some YouTube breakdowns I could watch so I can see him more of him(May have to wait for Steelers Depot to do it for me lol). His versatility that you mentioned is one thing I hear a lot about him. Which is what you want in a safety for this defense.

    I'm also interested in Deshone Elliott from Texas. 9 career interceptions in college, 6 were in 2017, two of them went for TD's. Created 3 forced fumbles in 2017. Flat out ball hawk. I'll be paying attention in how he'll run at the combine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    Mitchell has to go for the cap savings alone - someone will be signed for ILB or safety in free agency - will not expect to fill both through draft

    FYI are two links to the cap situation - in hindsight Steelers put all their chips on winning in 2017

    Do you think the Steelers are sitting pretty regarding their salary cap situation? Well, think again.
    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...ike-tomlin-nfl

    https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/pittsburgh-steelers/
    "in hindsight Steelers put all their chips on winning in 2017"

    That is just hurts to hear.

    Looks like the FO has a lot of work ahead of them.

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    Adding another longshot to drop to the Steelers. Harold Landry, Edge, BC. More of a pass rusher than Bud, but maybe not as skilled in space. In the to keep an eye on file.

    https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2017...arcus-lawrence

    Hercules Mata'afa. This article even suggests he's another TJ Watt.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/c...cules_mataafa/

    Sorry if this article is a repost. Good info on LBers with highlights and discussion.

    http://waitingfornextyear.com/2018/0...es-linebacker/
    Last edited by Born2Steel; 01-24-2018 at 12:15 PM.

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    Re: The Draft!

    In case it gets lost, I’ll reiterate:

    I’m all for drafting Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond in R3.

    I know now that we have other needs, but he’s my “low cost/high reward/possible franchise QB” of this draft.

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    Re: The Draft!

    so which long snapper do we draft this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    so which long snapper do we draft this year?
    Keep an eye on Ike Powell from Auburn at the Senior Bowl this week.


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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    With BB coming back, unless one of the top-tier QBs drops to 30, I could see them waiting until a later round to draft a QB. I was on the TE train until today (sorry, Shoes); the middle of the defense HAS to be the priority. Plus, BB seems to like McDonald.

    As of 1/14/18...

    R1: Justin Reid, FS, Stanford
    R2: Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise St.
    R3: Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond

    or

    R1: Malik Jefferson, ILB, Texas
    R2: Jordan Whitehead, S, Pitt
    R3: Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond
    There are a TON of really good safeties that should go in R2. So, I’m thinking...

    R1: ILB
    Jefferson, Vander Esch, Evans
    (whichever one is available)

    R2: FS
    Trayvon Henderson, Hawaii
    Terrell Edmunds, VaTech
    Kyzir White, WVU
    Jordan Whitehead, Pitt
    (There are like five other possible FS picks. We should see a dozen safeties go in the second round/early third round.)

    R3: QB
    Kyle Lauletta, Richmond
    (he has been tearing up the Senior Bowl)

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